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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Presidential Election :11/3/2020- Trump the Impeached vs Superplanner Lizzie & some other Dems

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It's too bad their won't be a real discussion on the issues in the general election.  

The Democratic primary is full of then. Warren publishing policy papers left and right.  Other candidates pushing single issues like climate change.  Even Bernie with his Medicare for all, etc..   You will be having real discussions on the various issues and the candidates plans for to solves those issues.  Sadly, you won't get a discussion like that in the fall.

The Dem nominee will have noone to actually debate.  Trump has no knowledge and is incapable of seriously debating the issues.  He'll just demagogue.

 

There's really going to be on issue next fall, defeating Trump.  That's the only issue.   Can the Democratic nominee get enough people to vote for him/her to defeat Trump. The nominee stances on the issues will help him/her but that nominee has to convince enough people.

 

That's why even with 20+ candidates, the dem nomination is being driven by who can beat Trump in the general. That's the only real issue.  Many have their preferred candidate, but your candidate may not be the one to get the nomination or be the best candidate.  The Dem nominee will likely be someone who won't have the full support of the dem electorate but you're going to have vote for them anyway.   This is the second abnormal election in a row because of the abnormality of Donald Trump.  He must be defeated. 

 

Whether you agree with disagree with the nominee. Whether that nominee inspire or repeals you.   That nominee needs to become Potus #46.  We can't afford 4 more years of Trump.

 

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Trump already showed in the 2016 debates that he has no clue what he is talking about on the issues, like literally he has nothing to say of substance when it comes to policy.  Unfortunately that didn't seem to matter for far too many people. Populism won the day in 2016.  This time around assuming the economy is sitting around where it is now, it will be the same nonsense but with a jobs report added in.  

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13 minutes ago, twa said:

Hillary can beat him.

 

Probably not, but she'd still get more votes then him.

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What the.....is Fox trying to lull Democrats into complacency with that poll? Also, it is still early but the more polls that are being shown seem to suggest Trump has a ceiling of around 41% or so, which basically means once again all the Democrats have to do is not screw up.  Of course that might be a lot to ask because it is still verrrrrry early.

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1 minute ago, NoCalMike said:

What the.....is Fox trying to lull Democrats into complacency with that poll?

Nah, Fox polling is actually legit and professional 

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"Ending Trump gag rule"?  I think we should be enforcing it.  :) 

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16 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

It is a good response.  I probably would have gone further and said he supports policies that appeal to people that are homophobic.

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20 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

Trump already showed in the 2016 debates that he has no clue what he is talking about on the issues, like literally he has nothing to say of substance when it comes to policy.  Unfortunately that didn't seem to matter for far too many people. Populism won the day in 2016.  This time around assuming the economy is sitting around where it is now, it will be the same nonsense but with a jobs report added in.  

 

I've touched on this from time to time, but it's going to be worse.

 

Much worse.

 

In my opinion, trump's greatest attribute as a political candidate is that he manages to steal every headline.

 

When the headline for the day should be "<Candidate> announces plan on <issue>" followed up by "<Candidate> does town hall on new announcement" ... what we actually got was:

"Here's what Trump tweeted about <Candidate>'s announcement on <issue> today"

 

And the entire back half of the news for that day revolves around Trump's tweet, and what other people think about Trump's tweet. Meanwhile the candidate in question got headlines during, what... 9am-12PM? 

 

He's a one-upper. He finds a way to make everything about him. Even when it attracts extremely negative outrage, it works. Because it's him people are talking about. 

 

Now he's the president... Not only can he just send out ridiculous tweets to steal the spotlight, but he can also just do random ****ing things. Like pardon someone. Or release an executive order. Or call a press conference where he doesn't say anything new, just rambles. Or stage a meeting with a foreign official. 

 

Or just tweet something that sends the stock people scrambling, because now he's actually president so there's weight to it (even if there shouldn't be)

 

To me, Trump running for reelection is going to be harder to beat. If the dems don't have a plan to deal with the one-upsmanship that Trump brings to the table, I don't think they're going to succeed. We're a headline-only nation now. Trump can flood the headlines whenever he wants now and drown out whomever he wants now. That's a real issue. I haven't heard any suggestions on how to actually deal with it.

 

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Three hours of tape to play in GOP ads against Sanders?

 

Nope nope nope so much nope.

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I don't care what the polls say. People gotta come out and VOTE. The margins for HRC in some of the states were razor thin. You know the Trumpers are going to come out in full force.

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Gonna take a wild guess and say whoever drew that cartoon doesn't see anything wrong with Putin and Trump.

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21 hours ago, tshile said:

To me, Trump running for reelection is going to be harder to beat. If the dems don't have a plan to deal with the one-upsmanship that Trump brings to the table, I don't think they're going to succeed. We're a headline-only nation now. Trump can flood the headlines whenever he wants now and drown out whomever he wants now. That's a real issue. I haven't heard any suggestions on how to actually deal with it.

 

Really tough to disagree. Recent history has shown that unless the economy goes real south (or you have a generational politician like Bill Clinton running), the incumbent normally prevails. Despite the fact that the Dem nominee won't have Hillary's baggage, I just don't think there's enough people in this country who care enough about Trump's jackassery. He'll get the benefit of the doubt and win re-election. I do think on some level his only goal is to show he can win re-election, and surprisingly, I can see him resigning early in his second term and handing the reins over to Pence. 

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21 minutes ago, hail2skins said:

Really tough to disagree. Recent history has shown that unless the economy goes real south (or you have a generational politician like Bill Clinton running), the incumbent normally prevails. Despite the fact that the Dem nominee won't have Hillary's baggage, I just don't think there's enough people in this country who care enough about Trump's jackassery. He'll get the benefit of the doubt and win re-election. I do think on some level his only goal is to show he can win re-election, and surprisingly, I can see him resigning early in his second term and handing the reins over to Pence. 

 

Turnout is key. Trump tops out at around 40% support - but those people get out and vote. The turnout at the mid terms was a historic high driven by big increases in younger people (up 16%) and women (up 12%). These people were largely voting for change and against Trump.

 

If that trend continues through 2020 Trump is in big trouble. But if the Democrats screw up their primary process and elect a bad candidate or alienate parts of that group in the process at least Trump might just win. Which does NOT bear thinking about.

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2 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

Gonna take a wild guess and say whoever drew that cartoon doesn't see anything wrong with Putin and Trump.

 

Because they are not included?

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