goskins10 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 My friend Bo put it best so I will simply post his video. The short version is that only paying will make him a hero among his followers. The only way this should be brought up is in reference to rich people pay less than everyone else so raising their taxes - well removing the loop holes - only gets them to pay their fair share. What he needs to be held accountable for is how in the world do you lose money during an economic recovery? Especially at casinos???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hersh Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Trump only got 51 percent of the vote in Alaska last time and Clinton was at 36 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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techboy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Simmsy said: The best part is that the Average Joe doesn't understand any of this...besides that Trump is a fraud that doesn't pay taxes, but the Average Joe pays taxes... This is very true. There are plenty of legal ways Trump could have paid 0 dollars in income taxes most years. There are plenty of loopholes in the tax code... Just ask Apple. Unless you want a wealth tax, it's even easy if you're as apparently bad at business as Trump... Just lose a fortune to offset any capital gains, and that's not even considering things like depreciation. Heck, when Romney eventually released his taxes and got excoriated for the low percentage HE paid, my understanding is that he actually had paid more than he legally had to, just so it wouldn't look worse. In a lot of ways, the problem is the tax code, not Trump. That being noted, KNOWING that requires a level of knowledge most low information voters aren't going to have, and those are the people this story is most probably going to affect, since I'd imagine anyone sophisticated enough to understand all this had enough information already to decide who to vote for a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, goskins10 said: My friend Bo put it best so I will simply post his video. The short version is that only paying will make him a hero among his followers. The only way this should be brought up is in reference to rich people pay less than everyone else so raising their taxes - well removing the loop holes - only gets them to pay their fair share. What he needs to be held accountable for is how in the world do you lose money during an economic recovery? Especially at casinos???? He makes some good points, but I'll say this: the idea that this information shows that he is a bad businessman and will mortgage America to save himself isn't new. For those of us that have been paying attention, we already knew he was a bad businessman because of his 6 (or more) bankruptcies, and that he would run America the same way, failing and bankrupting it. He has, the debt is skyrocketing. This is no surprise. I don't think there is anything that will deter his hardcore supporters. They are delusional and not susceptible to reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, China said: He makes some good points, but I'll say this: the idea that this information shows that he is a bad businessman and will mortgage America to save himself isn't new. For those of us that have been paying attention, we already knew he was a bad businessman because of his 6 (or more) bankruptcies, and that he would run America the same way, failing and bankrupting it. He has, the debt is skyrocketing. This is no surprise. I don't think there is anything that will deter his hardcore supporters. They are delusional and not susceptible to reason. I agree many know this. It's been common knowledge for years - decades if you want to be precise. But his supporters do not, including his fringe supporters. And yes they will probably just ignore it. But if it just reaches a few people. I think the bigger point is that if they continue on the not paying taxes will do nothing but raise his stature among those supports. But if they look and see for themselves he is actually a failure - a few, maybe just a few will abandon him. Again, it's not really his base that's the target. It's the fringe supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Destino Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, visionary said: If these things are obvious, why has the IRS been auditing him for years and years with no progress? Did they stop when he became PotUS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Destino said: If these things are obvious, why has the IRS been auditing him for years and years with no progress? Did they stop when he became PotUS? Good question. The IRS is wrestling with ordering the President of the United States to repay a tax return of $79 million, plus interest because it was improper to receive it. The hair thing is a sideline. The $750,000 “consulting fee” to Ivanka while she was also an employee is a big one too, though. To characterize employee compensation as outside consulting, allowing him to write it off as a business expense, is likely illegal. It also smells like illegally gifting cash to a family member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hersh Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I don’t get why pollsters keep asking that question. Ask how enthusiastic a voter is to vote out Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Destino Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, visionary said: 2020 just keeps getting stranger... Up is down, good is bad, Coulter wants democrats to tax billionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PokerPacker Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, visionary said: Who is this human and what did they do with Ann Coulter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, mistertim said: The guy is off his goddamn rocker. Yeah, headline from 1988............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skinsmarydu Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Well, Stacey got it done here...just checked my county website & early voting starts on the 12th (not just the week before election day) & includes weekends. I'm pretty psyched now. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Don't know if posted, but I lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 That Lincoln project one with Sully is perfect. Got damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Does anyone with half a brain see Breitbart News, and not immediately think, “right wing propaganda”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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