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How Have U.S. and State Capitols Braced for a ‘Proposed Secondary Attack’ Near Inauguration Day? We Asked Authorities in All 50 States for Answers

 

The day that Twitter permanently suspended outgoing President Donald Trump’s account, the company justified that action in part because of chatter observed on and off their platform of a “proposed secondary attack” of the U.S. Capitol and its analogues in all 50 states on Jan. 17, three days before Inauguration Day.

 

Though it is unclear why organizers chose that date, national security reporter Marcy Wheeler noted that the 17th letter of the alphabet is “Q,” a rallying cry for conspiracy theorists who believe in an apocalyptic war against a shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles and Satanists. Their devotion to a worldview ending a violent “storm” to eradicate their imagined enemies has led an FBI branch to brand them a terrorist threat, well before those ideas have been linked to an insurrection.

 

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"Everybody I am still speaking to (all eight of them) assures me that I have never made a mistake, ever. 

"In fact, every one of them tells me that, every 10 minutes."

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3 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

Gym Jordan is getting destroyed right now.  He refuses to say Biden win fair and square.  He sounds like he’s going to cry.

 

And after getting a medal for being so brave and honest, too.  

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29 minutes ago, China said:

 

As I said, he's a two-faced POS whose words mean nothing.

 

Thats called being a Republican.

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Unprincipled cowards...

 

GOP representative: Some Republicans voted to challenge election results due to safety concerns

 

Rep. Peter Meijer (R-Mich.) said that while some GOP members of Congress "share responsibility" for misleading the supporters of President Trump who stormed the U.S. Capitol last week, others feared physical violence if they opposed objections to the 2020 election results. 

 

"They were being lied to. They were being misled," he said of the demonstrators. "Some of my colleagues in Congress, they share responsibility for that. Many of them were fundraising off of this Stop the Steal grift."

 

But other Republicans, he argued in an interview with the libertarian magazine Reason, "had legitimate concerns about the safety of their families. They felt that that vote would put their families in danger."

 

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IMO this is almost certainly accurate.

 

Right-wing violence will now be a regular feature of American politics

 

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The Capitol Hill putsch that took place on Jan. 6 was shocking to just about everyone. But we should now prepare ourselves for something worse. This was not a singular event. We might be entering an era in which the threat of right-wing terrorism and regular outbreaks of violence are a regular feature of our politics.

 

On Monday, we learned that the FBI has identified plans for pro-Trump protests on and leading up to the day of Joe Biden’s inauguration, not only in D.C. but at all 50 state capitals. Then on Tuesday, HuffPost reported that Capitol Police had briefed members of Congress on multiple potential plots that could once again threaten them:

"And another demonstration, which three members said was by far the most concerning plot, would involve insurrectionists forming a perimeter around the Capitol, the White House and the Supreme Court, and then blocking Democrats from entering the Capitol ― perhaps even killing them ― so that Republicans could take control of the government."

 

We don’t know how developed these plots are; it’s possible that it was just some people talking online about something they wouldn’t actually carry out. But that will not be the end of it.

 

Once President Trump leaves office and it becomes apparent to even his most ardent supporters that there will be no last-minute intervention to give him a second term, their rage will only increase, as will their hatred for democracy.

 

In the post-9/11 era, we came to think of terrorism as a threat with a kind of tangible and graspable nature. Al-Qaeda and ISIS were organizations with membership rolls, with cooks and drivers and accountants. With the creation of a comprehensive enough security apparatus, we believed, they could be held at bay and ultimately defeated.

 

The right-wing domestic terrorism threat, on the other hand, exists on a much more fluid spectrum. There are people who plot specific acts of violence, such as those who wanted to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D). There are those who indulge in violent rhetoric and may commit acts of violence when swept up in a crowd, like many who stormed the Capitol. Then there are those who promote and encourage violence even if they might not commit it themselves. Such as the president and certain members of Congress.

 

That’s part of what makes this threat so challenging. Law enforcement might be able to break up some cells and stop some attacks before they happen. But the insurrectionist movement overlaps with the Republican Party. And they see what happened last Wednesday not as a horror, but as a triumph.

 

This will be the face of the opposition to the Biden presidency, an incarnation that will make the tea party look civil and restrained. It is enraged and unhinged, consumed with lunatic conspiracy theories and, most important, utterly opposed to the fundamental precepts of a democratic system, especially the one that says sometimes your side wins and sometimes it loses.

 

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2 hours ago, Larry said:

"I voted to substantiate an untrue conspiracy meme because I felt that the people believing the meme are dangerous."  

 

Or their current "I don't want to prosecute any of these dangerous people because then people might do something dangerous."

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7 minutes ago, China said:

 

Or their current "I don't want to prosecute any of these dangerous people because then people might do something dangerous."

 

"These Al-Qaeda people are pretty dangerous. We probably shouldn't go around poking that hornet's nest because they might come after us again." - Literally nobody, after 9/11

 

 

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5 minutes ago, visionary said:

Eject her from Congress.

 

Treat her like a kid who's threatening to hold his breath till he gets what he wants.  Wait.  

 

(Eject her from Congress, for conspiring with an armed lynch mob by giving them live directions for how to get to their target.)  

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BTW, regarding the metal detectors?  

 

I will point out that the recent attack did not involve members of Congress personally smuggling in guns for the mob.  This can easily be seen as an overreach by the "gun grabbing liberals".  

 

Absolutely expect People to try to spin this for NRA money as "Nancy Pelosi wants to take away my ability to defend myself".  You just handed them a campaign commercial which will resonate with many.  

 

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The group just literally pushed through and the cops guarding the door didn’t seem to know what to do.

 

Sounds familiar.  

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