goskins10 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, visionary said: Wait...hold up. The hypocrisy of the anti-abortion group seems to know no bounds. "You can't do that!" they scream for decades! Then the feckless bunker boy uses a drug as a result of said "You can't do that!" research and they can't wait to make it acceptable. Nothing but a bunch a ****ing idiots. Absolutely pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I don't get how it will take days to count a mail in ballot. They would be ready to be counted on election day. A vote cast during the day gets there after the mail-in ballot. I am sure drop boxes are picked up on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 And that post-vote massage was so awesome. (My best friend here for almost 30 years, she's the best in the local area and usually overbooked, but we managed to work out a monthly schedule 🥰). Her husband is a bass player who used to tease me about being a Repub from the stage back in the 90s...he always followed it up by saying, "She's got a short left leg, she just doesn't know it yet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, goskins10 said: The hypocrisy of the anti-abortion group seems to know no bounds. "You can't do that!" they scream for decades! Then the feckless bunker boy uses a drug as a result of said "You can't do that!" research and they can't wait to make it acceptable. Nothing but a bunch a ****ing idiots. Absolutely pathetic. You should probably read the article. The summary in the tweet is clickbait nonsense and completely misrepresents his own organization's reporting. Only one of the pro life groups they reached out to replied that way... Sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I had a chuckle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: I had a chuckle! And no one who knows a single thing about Noam Chomsky would spell his name wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, techboy said: You should probably read the article. The summary in the tweet is clickbait onsense and completely misrepresents his own organization's reporting. And what makes you think I did not read the article?? Because I did not come away with your interpretation?? Bad to make assumptions, because, well you know the rest..... So yes I did read the article and it's actually worse but I decided not to get into the details. But since I must - they are playing semantics by saying "We will not engage in this controversy". And then try to further justify not doing their standard scream crazy **** by changing the definition of fetal tissue. They certainly had no problems with screaming like the crazy ****s that they are before? And then the say it's OK since Trump and his doctors did not do the abortion themselves. Give me a ****ing break. I stand by my original comments. The entire lot of anti-abortion nut cases are ****nig idiots and thier hypocrisy knows no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, goskins10 said: And what makes you think I did not read the article?? Because I did not come away with your interpretation?? Bad to make assumptions, because, well you know the rest..... I was giving you the benefit of the doubt with my original statement. I really didn't want to suggest any of the alternatives. I still don't. You are correct that there is some element of dodging there. In truth, it reminded me most of NOW and other feminist groups doing backflips to support an ally, Bill Clinton, when he was credibly accused of things that would have had them howling with rage were it Newt Gingrich. People don't like to undercut their own causes. That's politics. If, however, you think that this: [Quote] In Regeneron's testing of the drug, the fetal cells were used to create virus particles that mimicked the coronavirus. Those, in turn, were tested on mice antibodies and antibodies from a live human donor who had recovered from COVID-19. According to MIT Technology Review, most scientists don't view HEK 293T cells as fetal cells because of how many times they've been divided, changed, and used over the past few decades. "It's how you want to parse it," Alexandra Bowie, a spokeswoman for Regeneron, told the MIT Technology Review. "But the 293T cell lines available today are not considered fetal tissue, and we did not otherwise use fetal tissue." A Regeneron representative previously told Insider these cells "are immortalized epithelial cells, not stem cells, embryonic stem cells, or fetal tissue." [/Quote] And this [Quote]However, each group told Insider they would not engage in this controversy — some because they said they believed the cells used in testing bore little connection to the 1972 abortion and others because the antibody ****tail itself didn't contain traces of fetal tissue.[/quote] are the same as what was in that tweet, or worse, I don't know what to tell you. Trump is absolutely a hypocrite on abortion. I can't prove it, but I'd bet good money that he's paid, cajoled, and bullied countless women into getting them. THIS issue, though, has a lot more nuance than extremists (pro-choice OR pro-life) would have you believe. Or clickbaiting managing editors of Business Insider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 And Noam Chomsky is Professor Emeritus at...... MIT. What are we laughing at? Edit, add: am I adding too many posts together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Seems like a threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: Edit, add: am I adding too many posts together? I appreciate your attempt to defuse the situation with humor, but @goskins10's posts are the FINAL STRAW! I was going to vote for Biden, but now I have no choice. I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP. Don't blame me... @goskins10forced me to do this. Now to set up a Twitter account. I need to share this with the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchogs Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 just typing that must have been hard, @techboy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 So should we be concerned with the Michigan Senate seat only showing a +1 for Peters? that’s a little terrifying. Can’t give up an easy one and expect to take the senate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, dchogs said: just typing that must have been hard, @techboy... Not really, but I didn't actually pull it off, either. My spelling and grammar was too good. This was actually a problem several years ago. I'm a special education teacher, and back when the SOL writing test was done on paper, some sped kids got the accommodation of using a computer with spell check. So they didn't stand out, later teachers had to transcribe the typed essays exactly. This led to silly things like being forced to leave weird blanks if a kid hit the space bar a few times. The thing I struggled with the most, though, is that my brain's "auto-correct" kept accidentally fixing their spelling and grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 @techboy Well my work here is done! Glad to help provide clarity. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoAli Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said: I had a chuckle! Cornel West and Angela Davis....neoliberal? Really? I didn’t know time travel was possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 @techboy I still disagree about the article only in that I was not there to debate the nuances. There is proof that the anti-abortion folks are keen to play word games and use semantics to justify their ever fluctuating position. You seem to be hung up on the tweet not fully reflecting the content of the article. I agree it does not have full content. The company thinks they did not use fetal tissue by their definition. But that has nothing to do with the anti-abortion floppers response that they don't want to get into the controversy. That's a cop out. Why not say "There is no controversy as the tissue used was not truly fetal tissue" They did not. I agree the use of embryonic tissue overall, and specifically from aborted fetus is much more nuanced than is typically discussed. However, the point of the tweet was still valid. Both can be true. Edit: No intent to respond after this - at least not here. Glad to continue in the abortion thread (I think there is one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Y’all. I can’t put the whole damn tweet in sarcasm font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, techboy said: I was giving you the benefit of the doubt with my original statement. I really didn't want to suggest any of the alternatives. I still don't. You are correct that there is some element of dodging there. In truth, it reminded me most of NOW and other feminist groups doing backflips to support an ally, Bill Clinton, when he was credibly accused of things that would have had them howling with rage were it Newt Gingrich. People don't like to undercut their own causes. That's politics. If, however, you think that this: [Quote] In Regeneron's testing of the drug, the fetal cells were used to create virus particles that mimicked the coronavirus. Those, in turn, were tested on mice antibodies and antibodies from a live human donor who had recovered from COVID-19. According to MIT Technology Review, most scientists don't view HEK 293T cells as fetal cells because of how many times they've been divided, changed, and used over the past few decades. "It's how you want to parse it," Alexandra Bowie, a spokeswoman for Regeneron, told the MIT Technology Review. "But the 293T cell lines available today are not considered fetal tissue, and we did not otherwise use fetal tissue." A Regeneron representative previously told Insider these cells "are immortalized epithelial cells, not stem cells, embryonic stem cells, or fetal tissue." [/Quote] And this [Quote]However, each group told Insider they would not engage in this controversy — some because they said they believed the cells used in testing bore little connection to the 1972 abortion and others because the antibody ****tail itself didn't contain traces of fetal tissue.[/quote] are the same as what was in that tweet, or worse, I don't know what to tell you. Trump is absolutely a hypocrite on abortion. I can't prove it, but I'd bet good money that he's paid, cajoled, and bullied countless women into getting them. THIS issue, though, has a lot more nuance than extremists (pro-choice OR pro-life) would have you believe. Or clickbaiting managing editors of Business Insider. The only problem with their position is that if they had their way, this treatment likely wouldn’t exist at all. Well, our votes are in the bag. We got there around 7:30 and there was already a line of a hundred or so people. It took us about two hours to get in. When we left, the line snaked all the way around the parking lot on the left side of the picture below and out to the sidewalk. Go to hell Tя☭mp. Go directly to hell. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Go directly to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: that’s a little terrifying. Can’t give up an easy one and expect to take the senate No need to be terrified. We live in a free dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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