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3rd and short.....QB on your roster for 5 weeks...running game works..What do you do?


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Gentleman, if Hasselback makes that pass... which he should have, Coles scores a TD. When the Saints knew the run was coming they did a good job of stopping it. They bought on the play action, and Coles was open and had the DB beat.

It was a good call, it had as much chance to succeed as did a 3rd and 2 up the middle run.

If we ran and was stopped, everyone would say what a stupid call, they KNEW we were going to run.

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Y'know, I actually was very impressed by much of what i saw from the Skins today. Hasslebeck looked nothing like a guy getting his first NFL start, and he appeared to audible quite a bit. If you are talking about the 3rd and short that he threw to Coles (?) and it went over his head, out of bounds, then YES, it was an audible. Other than that 3rd down play, I felt the Skins performed well on most of their 3rd downs.....

Maybe it's me, but I got a lot of positives out of todays loss....especially since the rest of the season is going to be used for evaluating talent.

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Originally posted by Muskrat

Y'know, I actually was very impressed by much of what i saw from the Skins today. Hasslebeck looked nothing like a guy getting his first NFL start, and he appeared to audible quite a bit. If you are talking about the 3rd and short that he threw to Coles (?) and it went over his head, out of bounds, then YES, it was an audible. Other than that 3rd down play, I felt the Skins performed well on most of their 3rd downs.....

Maybe it's me, but I got a lot of positives out of todays loss....especially since the rest of the season is going to be used for evaluating talent.

The Skins played a good game, some people just like to point fingers and Blame people, even when there wasn't really anything to blame them for

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The ONE difference between Ramsey's audibles and Hasslebecks' are that Hasslebeck seemed to pull them off without running into delay of game or a false start. What does that mean? I don't know, but Hasslebeck appear VERY comfortable with the system for someone who's only been with the team for a few weeks.

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Originally posted by bubba9497

The Skins played a good game, some people just like to point fingers and Blame people, even when there wasn't really anything to blame them for

I think the title of this thread is the best place to point blame. Could we try running on this short yardage situations? Why not?

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Originally posted by bubba9497

We ran several times yesterday on 3rd down, why the heck do you think the Saints bit so hard on the play action???

The play was open for a TD.

exactly if we hit that play (which we should 9 out or 10) then spurrier looks like a genious and we win :)

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Ok, I was there and remember quite a few 3rd and less than 3's where we threw when we should of run.

Some of those series were insane.

1st down: pass, incomplete

2nd down: run for 5 yards

well, if we did that run for 1st down. Then 2nd and 3rd would of had more options.

I'm just saying that it was a poorly called game by Spurrier since the QB has only been on the roster for 5 damn weeks.

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Originally posted by Bufford 2.5

1st down: pass, incomplete

2nd down: run for 5 yards

This is because we don't have a dependable back for first and second downs. When ever Candidate was running and the D knew it they stopped him. When they were not expecting it, he had a nice gain. He has to many 1 or 2 or no yard gains to keep getting the ball on 1st. The WR screen is more succesful then Trung is on 1st downs :)

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This is why you not only throw the ball when you believe that the defense is all out on a run blitz, you playaction. This way you can grab a safety or two into the rush, plus you have a very slim chance, but a chance of freezing a corner for a millisecond.

Either way, you have less people than normal on your #1 reciever, less than when you just call a pass.

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Originally posted by Kilmer17

Well Shucks Bufford, we just gotta pitch it around a little bit more.

Just gotta coach em up Kilmer. Timmy'll get in there are throw it around a little...you know, he is what he is. We'll do a little bit of this, a little bit of that....SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!!! DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS!!!

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Lets focus on the positives. We played (and lost) another close game. Most of our games this year, with a rookie QB, were decided by 7 points or less. We fixed our kicking game. The OL looked much better. Candidate ran well (his injury may have been effecting him more than I thought). We played with passion. The special teams looked good--Morton had his first gamebreaker. We found a second QB. Wiley and Dockery played well.

The negatives. More penalties. Champ. Poor safety play (again). No Taylor Jacobs (get him a pass or two and into the game). No TE (we miss Royal). No punter.

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I don't have a problem with going deep on that play.

But, if I'd gone for it on 3rd, it would've been on the understanding that, if I don't make it, then I'm going for it on 4th.

It's one thing to go deep when the possibilities are a TD or a 4th-down try. It's different when the options are TD or game over.

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