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Fixing the Republican Party (new material on pg 9)

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They are going to be calling Democrats socialists while using tax payer money to buy the votes of farmers. Hugo Chavez ran Venezuela like this:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/trump-promises-more-aid-for-farmers-in-2020-as-china-trade-war-drags-on.html

 

This is mind boggling corruption:

 

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Keeping farmers on his side is a crucial political goal for Trump, who is up for reelection next year and has shown no indication that he is willing to back off his fight with China. The Washington Post reported on Aug.1 that nine out of 10 counties that supported Trump in the 2016 election have received subsidies related to the trade war.

 

We are at the point that not only is the Republican base voting for policies that hurt their economic livelihood, the rest of us are also subsidizing their bad choices. 

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14 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

They are going to be calling Democrats socialists while using tax payer money to buy the votes of farmers. Hugo Chavez ran Venezuela like this:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/trump-promises-more-aid-for-farmers-in-2020-as-china-trade-war-drags-on.html

 

This is mind boggling corruption:

 

 

We are at the point that not only is the Republican base voting for policies that hurt their economic livelihood, the rest of us are also subsidizing their bad choices. 

So, is this where we call the admin and the farmers socialists? Free govt handouts on the backs of blue maker states? 

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Not crazy gop senator: hey our party is catering to white supremacy and racism. We need to recognize that and fix it

 

GOP: get out

 

 

theres nothing to be saved here. It was bad enough when the GOP preached conservative ideas but didn’t actually practice it. It has always been bad that their foreign policy was war first, diplomacy last; that their economic theories have all been proven to be bull****. But it’s crystal clear racism and white supremacy has found a home in the GOP and is enabled enough to grow and be public with it. And when someone points it out and says it needs to be fixed, their response is to kick that person out?

 

theres nothing left to save. 

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yeah, again, there's so much to go after the left about, inc. posters in this forum of course, and i will every now and then still, but the gop is just a sewer now

 

it's worse than in the late 60'sd and all the same ugly was there back then, don't kid yourselves

 

the civil war was only a start to needed change not an end to existential racial and moral divides

 

it's almost impossible to get any elected gopers on camera/mike who will simply even argue in good faith on any topic, and the same is persistent across their base....it's now typcial even from conservatives who say they don't like trump at all but still parrot too many of the bad faith, uber-hypocritical, and outright deceitful forms of what passes for conservative argument too often these days

 

i experience more people arguing from the right in this obvious disingenuous, fraudulent spinning, manner and not the more traditional dem/gop ideological and policy arguments to a far greater degree than in the past

 

 

part of that is there are many more of the stupid-ignorant-malevolent-delusional type members in that group that have had their voice amplified hugely by social media and trumpco and that's been monetized by a booming horde of fame/money seekers...adding plain old grifters as an ever growing bloc in the gop 

 

 

 

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that said,  @volsmet----restrict yourself from posting in the political threads for now

 

 

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 Republicans are sociopaths... guided by nothing but greed & hate. 

 

 

 

this is an example of "over the top", hopefully people can see how just a minor adjustment would have made it tolerable, but it's not the sole reason for this psot

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, tshile said:

Not crazy gop senator: hey our party is catering to white supremacy and racism. We need to recognize that and fix it

 

GOP: get out

 

 

theres nothing to be saved here. It was bad enough when the GOP preached conservative ideas but didn’t actually practice it. It has always been bad that their foreign policy was war first, diplomacy last; that their economic theories have all been proven to be bull****. But it’s crystal clear racism and white supremacy has found a home in the GOP and is enabled enough to grow and be public with it. And when someone points it out and says it needs to be fixed, their response is to kick that person out?

 

theres nothing left to save. 

Honestly, why does thread even exist anymore.  The GOP can't be saved. What's left post-Trump; whether that's 2021 or 2025 is the final implosion of the party.  It may not happen in 2020 since Trump is on the ballot.  I suspect in elections post 2020; the GOP will start suffering loses that will decimate them for good.  AS the rest of the WW2 & Silent Generation die off, they won't be much of factor.  Boomers will start declining as they die off also.  This will be balanced out by Millennials taking power and GenZers coming of voting age.   The GOP will eventually lose their grip.   They made their choice and they will have turned off a majority of 2 generations.

 

 

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2 hours ago, No Excuses said:

They are going to be calling Democrats socialists while using tax payer money to buy the votes of farmers. Hugo Chavez ran Venezuela like this:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/trump-promises-more-aid-for-farmers-in-2020-as-china-trade-war-drags-on.html

 

This is mind boggling corruption:

 

 

We are at the point that not only is the Republican base voting for policies that hurt their economic livelihood, the rest of us are also subsidizing their bad choices. 

I've been saying that 'Muricuh is just a bunch of welfare queens for years. This is only more of the same.

 

2 hours ago, tshile said:

Not crazy gop senator: hey our party is catering to white supremacy and racism. We need to recognize that and fix it

 

GOP: get out

 

 

theres nothing to be saved here. It was bad enough when the GOP preached conservative ideas but didn’t actually practice it. It has always been bad that their foreign policy was war first, diplomacy last; that their economic theories have all been proven to be bull****. But it’s crystal clear racism and white supremacy has found a home in the GOP and is enabled enough to grow and be public with it. And when someone points it out and says it needs to be fixed, their response is to kick that person out?

 

theres nothing left to save. 

I stayed in the GOP for some time, even after I started to suspect that I had been wrong about what they were really about. It turns out they're devils and I was a bigger dupe than I ever imagined. Hopefully more of them come to the same realization I did.

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The Guardian: Revealed - Republican lawmaker aided group training young men for 'biblical warfare

 

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The Republican politician Matt Shea connected close allies with a group offering training to young men in “biblical warfare” that includes how to use knives, pistols and rifles, with lessons based in part on the teachings of a Georgia-based neo-Confederate pastor, emails obtained by the Guardian reveal.

 

Shea, who is an elected Washington state representative, later made videos in support of the group, and appeared alongside them at a gathering at a religious community in remote eastern Washington. He also paid the founder of the group money from his campaign fund in 2018.

 

The emails, sent in July 2016, begin with an email from Patrick Caughran, who presents himself as the founder of a training group called Team Rugged. They were provided to the Guardian by a former Shea associate who was copied in on the exchange.

 

Caughran asks Shea to publicize a link to the group’s Facebook page, and put him in touch with “John Jacob Schmidt”, the nom de guerre of Shea associate, Jack Robertson. Robertson is a rightwing podcast host who advocates for conservatives to move to the “American Redoubt” in eastern Washington, Idaho and Montana, and, with Shea, campaigns for eastern Washington to secede and form its own state.

 

On Team Rugged website, it is described as “a Christian organization that strongly believes in building manly character and the capability to stand in adversity in young men”.

 

In his email to Shea, however, Caughran offers a different description, saying that the group exists “to provide patriotic and biblical training on war for young men”.

 

He continues: “Everything about it is both politically incorrect and what would be considered shocking truth to most modern Christians.”

 

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Shocked that a GOP Rep who had his 1st wife leave him for emotional/physical abuse.......and he gets remarried 5min later......is a bible warrior. 

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They're just willing to vote for Trump because of all of his good qualities.  

 

Why, there's . . . . 

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it's fitting this has dropped to the 7th page of active topics

 

i know there are many people who of course still identify as republicans that don't fully merit the level of derision i'm applying to the institution that is the gop focusing on the last 50-60 years

 

but this **** show as a whole either needs to do some gargantuan and quick turnaround on trump support, or, if such should ever be actually doable, be truly eviscerated and disassembled via outing them everywhere from office and ostracizing them in every way possible for being the nurturing and supportive home they've long been to crazy conspiracy nuts, malevolent whiny losers, militant ignorance, bottomless wells of hypocrisy, racism, bigotry, magical thinking nutbag xtians representing their religion with a typical absence of moral or ethical credibility via their actual behaviors, and a dedciation to all forms of deception that is historic

 

i see the the gop as a social institution ranking right up there with nambla and the kkk :)

 

 

the gop is not "the same" as nambla, kkk etc, it's that the differences in "bad" don't make for an important distinction in terms of their value imv :)

 

 

to use the hyperbolic tone popular these days, were it pragmatically possible to do so, and do so without negative consequences to society functioning mechanically with such a large immediate loss to workforce, i'd like to be able to take all trump-supporting voters (i know there's a lot of overlap in demographics in my list here but i'm specifying anyway) all the loyal viewers of the fox talking heads, all the dedicated breitbart believers, all the evang xtians of trump/falwell etc., every goper in congress not named kinzinger, and deport them all to another land.....on another planet

 

 

for what i think would be more in the spirit of just and directly appropriate consequences specifically for don, his fam (most of 'em), most of his cabinet past/present, all his regular tv mouthpieces, and many key congressional gopers, i have to go back to the methodology of those historical or fictional characters i've mentioned before as edgy behavioral interventionists 

 

 

it's sure a longshot, but i actually do hope there's enough non-goper voters able and willing to do the theoretically doable part of voting them out everywhere possible in 2020 and keeping them under iron heel for at least a decade 

 

i am going to have to write more critical stuff on the dems soon though as the logs are getting jammed from neglect the last couple years :ols:

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This was my morning read while I had breakfast and tea. It is such a depressing portrait of a rural county in Arkansas. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/opinion/sunday/trump-arkansas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

 

When you don’t see the utility of libraries and schools, you have completely failed as a community. When you view everything through a lens of “me, me and me only”, that’s how you get Trump and anyone who approves of his narcissistic, anti-social personality.

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22 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

It is such a depressing portrait of a rural county in Arkansas.

 

Well, it is a portrait of a rural county in Arkansas.  :) 

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While lives spent in a state of low information.  Maybe going to the library could help with that... The sentiments of that town are what happens after there has been a massive brain drain in a dying area with no future.  Your "intelligentsia" that's still there to lead the community are just stupid.

 

These people have been radicalized by conservative propaganda to view educational institutions as nothing but tools for creating dissenters.  They're killing themselves in a pattern that is familiar to collapsing societies.  Their settlements will be further impoverished, die, and be abandoned if they are left to their own devices.

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virtually every goper talking head is out there talking "potential biden scandals" rather than the obvious abuses of power (and other acts worthy of impeachment) of don that is right in plain sight

 

the gop should be annihilated at this point, if such were possible

 

it's the partry of scumsucking bottomfeeders :)

 

all the blatant lying and lack of any integrity, and all the mind-numbing display of hypocrisy on a scale "that's never been seen before" and these years of perpetual fevered broadstroke goper attacks  of "the dems are simply the enemy of america" nature and all their edgy, even violence-endorsing, attitudes towards the left are going to be fully reciprocated....only in a manner deservedly so  because it will be accurately applied

 

it's notable to me how many lefties i know who never were much for displaying "hate" or expressing violent sentiments increasingly voice such thoughts and feelings

 

when i make that last comment in discussions in my circles i get the occasional "this is just what the russians wanted" and it usually comes from a conservative being an integrity-free hypocrite again, or from that soft-hearted lefty pacifist-type who still thinks the gop is terribly diseased at this point but not terminal and believe responding to  them with similar sentiment is wrong....i also hear "well if we have a civil war the lefties will get all shot up cuz the right side has the guns, cops, military, and militias" ....i wouldn't bet on that, not that i think they'll get that bad where it really becomes a hot civil war, or at least until numerous riot-like events start happening......i still don't see the same level of civil disorder and anger as during the 60's and early 70's, but it's getting there

 

i used to think the gop had its fair share of upside in some  core attitudes (still think that way about "conservatism" and "liberalism") but also had way too much suck in key ways (far more than the left as i know it during my lifetime)  but it took work not to write the gop off totally even in the past just cuz of their racism and homophobia and religious zealot issues.....but i really lost any real energy for supporting their side in most any way after gb2 and that effing crew did their murderous profiteering and then i realized i was kind of summiting that mountain the day trump got the gop nomination....though i have never registered/identified as a dem either

 

yeah, **** the gopers...if you're a decent human being, resign as a goper unless you're being 1000% dedicated to ousting trump and what he's brought to that party-----polls are polls, but i make a fairly big deal out of how many goper voters are solidly behind don for whatever their reason ...there never was a properly (i.e. rational, intelligent) justifiable reason to back don, hillary or not, sorry....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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They are diseased and I would support an extensive medical effort to analyze their brains to find the cause, we can start removing their heads for it now

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watching  sen kramer (r) just sweat through a chain of occasional tolerable positions for a conservative intermixed with numerous and just pathetic lies and kindergarten-obvious deflections,  after presenting himself as "one of the many reasonable thoughtful republicans" (that's how he described himself and his fellows)

 

i can't think of a goper senator off-hand who wouldn't best serve the species by being an Otis (WD) in the upcoming real zombie apocalypse

 

 

(come back shane)

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