Blake Allyn Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, techboy said: Hypocrisy is a defining human characteristic. We're all hypocrites by nature. Actions can't really be judged by potential hypocrisy or we'd never be able to praise or condemn anything or anyone. The only reasonable path is to judge each situation on a case by case basis and use observations of hypocrisy to encourage self reflection and possible change. It does in the sense that Trump logically cannot care about the children in Syria cause he doesn't care about the children in Yemen who he is actively supporting the ones(Saudis) killing them. Trump is doing the classic thing. Divert attention from the fact he is planning on handing all public wealth over to private billionaires by diverting attention to war. He didn't invent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Blake Allyn said: It does in the sense that Trump logically cannot care about the children in Syria cause he doesn't care about the children in Yemen who he is actively supporting the ones(Saudis) killing them. That's ridiculous, not the least because human emotions don't work that way. The correct response here is not to condemn Trump for caring about Syrian children. It would be to attempt to get him to care about Yemeni children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Military action being our "thing". Yeah...no that's dumb. Clearly you misunderstand. By our "thing" I simply mean something we are successful at. How could being successful as a nation at something as important as military action be "dumb" ? I'll assume I wasn't clear and thus the miscommunication was on my part. Though, I thought that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Llevron said: Clearly you misunderstand. By our "thing" I simply mean something we are successful at. How could being successful as a nation at something as important as military action be "dumb" ? I'll assume I wasn't clear and thus the miscommunication was on my part. Though, I thought that was obvious. It might help if you knew that Asbury is a true pacifist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, techboy said: It might help if you knew that Asbury is a true pacifist. That does, actually. My bad @AsburySkinsFan that does color your opinion a bit if true. I Should have peeped that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Allyn Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, techboy said: That's ridiculous, not the least because human emotions don't work that way. The correct response here is not to condemn Trump for caring about Syrian children. It would be to attempt to get him to care about Yemeni children. I dont disagree. That is not a bad point. I would say 1. Does him firing missiles prove he cares about Syrian children? US airstrikes have killed a lot of Syrian children. I see arguments both ways here. 2. Its hard to get him to care about Yemeni children when he is actively supporting their slaughter. That being said, he isn't unique. I am non-partisan. Obama conducted himself the exact same way, and no doubt, Clinton would have. If I was in charge, I would put have the International Court try Assad in absentia as a war criminal, which he is. Then I would proceed to have all nations, legally obligated, come to the aid of the Syrian people. Naive, perhaps. But this situation is so complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 30 minutes ago, techboy said: It might help if you knew that Asbury is a true pacifist. 29 minutes ago, Llevron said: That does, actually. My bad @AsburySkinsFan that does color your opinion a bit if true. I Should have peeped that. A little more to it than that, but for all intents and purposes that'll do. Suffice it to say that I'm not a fan of 99.9% of military adventures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 38 minutes ago, techboy said: It might help if you knew that Asbury is a true pacifist. Except when it comes to hanging Republicans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, twa said: Except when it comes to hanging Republicans I don't want them hanged. I want them to stop being jackasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, AsburySkinsFan said: A little more to it than that, but for all intents and purposes that'll do. Suffice it to say that I'm not a fan of 99.9% of military adventures. I'm picking up what you are putting down, then. Understanding achieved *thumbs up* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 21 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: I don't want them hanged. I want them to stop being jackasses. I used to be a Republican, and I'm hung, but I still can't stop being a jackass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I dont see the type of damage I expected from 59 of our newest version tomahawk missiles. Apparently 1 failed and fell into the sea. Syria's curved airplane hanger things are completely in tact. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/07/about-20-syrian-jets-destroyed-in-airstrike-defense-officials-say.html The Russians are coming ... I imagine that will be the extent of Putins response, sending a warship but nothing more. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/07/russian-warship-steams-toward-us-destroyers-that-launched-syria-strikes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Riggo-toni said: I used to be a Republican, and I'm hung, but I still can't stop being a jackass... Same...well two out of three ain't bad I guess. I too am a former Republican who can't stop being a jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Riggo-toni said: I used to be a Republican, and I'm hung, but I still can't stop being a jackass... Actual laughter lol Just now, AsburySkinsFan said: Same...well two out of three ain't bad I guess. I too am a former Republican who can't stop being a jackass. More Lol. Yall gotta chill lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 At this point it looks like what was accomplished was a symbolic act that may not change anything except give Russia an excuse to escalate without any real gain for us or the Syrian people who were the real victims of cw attack. Hopefully this is just the tip of the iceberg for what we have planned. (Not necessarily in terms of strikes, but comprehensive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Allyn Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 31 minutes ago, twa said: Nikki Haley is a joke. 1 minute ago, visionary said: At this point it looks like what was accomplished was a symbolic act that may not change anything except give Russia an excuse to escalate without any real gain for us or the Syrian people who were the real victims of cw attack. Hopefully this is just the tip of the iceberg for what we have planned. (Not necessarily in terms of strikes, but comprehensive) Except for Israel, those supporters are all brutal dictators, the worst of which the Saudis, has killed quite a few Yemeni children and threatened the whole country with starvation. Ahh the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 That's some heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Expensive shots across the bow. Raytheon stock is climbing. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, visionary said: Military Analysts vs Political Analysts At this point it looks like what was accomplished was a symbolic act that may not change anything except give Russia an excuse to escalate without any real gain for us or the Syrian people who were the real victims of cw attack. Hopefully this is just the tip of the iceberg for what we have planned. (Not necessarily in terms of strikes, but comprehensive) Another copycat Obama plan? Yup, while the media is running around claiming how big this is and that North Korea is now on notice....not so much. Oh @visionary did you just imply that Trump may have a larger more comprehensive plan???? ??♂️ Are we going to see another "it's Obama's fault" from the Administration regarding the ineffectiveness of this grand standing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 I hope he does and we didn't just get played by Russia again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 guess what happens if the economy starts to slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Not sure how accurate this all is, but it does make it look like more damage was done than other reports have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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