Moose & Squirrel v Boris & Natasha: what's the deal with the rooskies and trumpland?

[TradeTheBeal!]

30 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

How do we know that the founding fathers didn’t want a president that was above the law? Maybe that was their whole point? Eh? EH?

 

Not everybody has the same “founding fathers”.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howell_Cobb

[JCB]

3 hours ago, Llevron said:

 

They wouldn't have left all these loop holes if they didnt. 

 

Shut up. The people you are happy to vote into office are the exact reason he cant be and you know this. 

 

Might wanna go ahead and just sticky this post.

[Mooka]

4 hours ago, DogofWar1 said:

 

So since DOJ can't indict, if we accept that crimes must precede impeachment and/or conviction, no one is impeachable.

 

No one is impeachable unless the opposition controls controls the House/Senate.

 

Crimes and convictions have less to do with it.

[PeterMP]

19 hours ago, twa said:

interesting op ed

 

The Mueller report concludes it was not needed

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/439840-the-mueller-report-concludes-it-was-not-needed

 

The problem is there are a whole list of people it doesn't mention, including Manafort, Flynn, and Gates.

 

If Comey and Mueller hadn't done what he had done, it isn't hard to imagine a world where Flynn is still in government as a national security advisor (despite having repeatedly lied and therefore likely subject to blackmail) and Manafort isn't an (unofficial) of advisor the President of the US.

[twa]

3 hours ago, Llevron said:

 

 

Shut up. The people you are happy to vote into office are the exact reason he cant be and you know this. 

 

 

 you clearly do not grasp how impeachment works

[twa]

8 minutes ago, PeterMP said:

 

The problem is there are a whole list of people it doesn't mention, including Manafort, Flynn, and Gates.

 

If Comey and Mueller hadn't done what he had done, it isn't hard to imagine a world where Flynn is still in government as a national security advisor (despite having repeatedly lied and therefore likely subject to blackmail) and Manafort isn't an (unofficial) of advisor the President of the US.

 

Flynn was gone pre Mueller, you can imagine whatever you wish.

[PeterMP]

22 minutes ago, twa said:

 

Flynn was gone pre Mueller, you can imagine whatever you wish.

 

What you've posted also talks about Comey and his investigation into Trump's team.  I was responding to what was actually written in what you posted.  Not just the head line.

 

I'm sorry if you only the read head line of what you posted.

 

And I mentioned 3 (non-Russian) people as example.  You mentioned one of the 3.

Edited April 22, 2019 by PeterMP

[RedskinsFan44]

20 hours ago, twa said:

interesting op ed

 

The Mueller report concludes it was not needed

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/439840-the-mueller-report-concludes-it-was-not-needed

A: Show me some text in the Mueller Report where it says it was not needed.
B: "How would you like to spend two years and $30 million assembling a report that concludes you were not needed in the first place? Voilà: the Mueller report. Nice work if you can get it. " 
This is disingenuous : https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/12/mueller-russia-investigation-costs/2736507002/

C : This whole "Mueller Report totally exonerates Trump/ shows the real criminals are the FBI" is some serious partisan garbage.

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

 

Edited April 22, 2019 by Cooked Crack

[Captain Wiggles]

So now its 18 angry Democrats instead of the previous 13 very angry Democrats. 🤔

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[NoCalMike]

In a world where impeachment is just as much a political process (if not more) than a process about actual crimes being committed, I think it is silly for people to get overly-angry that Pelosi is approaching this with political ramifications in mind. 

 

Doesn't mean it isn't frustrating that given the right (current) situation, the President can do what he has done with zero culpability, but that is how the system is set up. 

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[Skintime]

13 hours ago, twa said:

 

Is a professional opinion a fact? 

 

Been told a lot of things were fact, that weren't.

Like trump would be a good president?

[visionary]

 

[visionary]

 

[NoCalMike]

So for our legal experts on the board, or at least acting legal experts, how does the law work when it comes to the question of Obstruction if the President is requesting people to break the law and/or do things to stifle on-going investigations and they simply refuse?  Does their refusal to carry out his requests also absolve Trump from obstruction, or does the fact that he was telling people to do things in itself obstruction?  In other words if Trump is intending to obstruct justice through other people is that obstruction?

[TheGreatBuzz]

Elections have consequences. 

 

Thanks Obama.

[AsburySkinsFan]

17 hours ago, twa said:

 

 

 you clearly do not grasp how impeachment works

You clearly have your head shoved up ***** ********* ***.

 

*edit*

Wow, that's strange, never saw the forum censor do that before.

[Skintime]

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, RedskinsFan44 said:

A: Show me some text in the Mueller Report where it says it was not needed.
B: "How would you like to spend two years and $30 million assembling a report that concludes you were not needed in the first place? Voilà: the Mueller report. Nice work if you can get it. " 
This is disingenuous : https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/12/mueller-russia-investigation-costs/2736507002/

C : This whole "Mueller Report totally exonerates Trump/ shows the real criminals are the FBI" is some serious partisan garbage.

That sums him up in a nutshell. Cannot think as an American, only a trumpian.

[AsburySkinsFan]

11 hours ago, visionary said:

 

 

Bill Kristol is a RINO.

Just another DC Democrat in Republican clothing. He's a sell out to the party and to God's Anointed One. May God continue to shower our Fuhrer with golden blessings and may Trump be the eternal leader we've prayed for to lead us from the depravity of those baby killing butt bandits.

[AsburySkinsFan]

7 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

So for our legal experts on the board, or at least acting legal experts, how does the law work when it comes to the question of Obstruction if the President is requesting people to break the law and/or do things to stifle on-going investigations and they simply refuse?  Does their refusal to carry out his requests also absolve Trump from obstruction, or does the fact that he was telling people to do things in itself obstruction?  In other words if Trump is intending to obstruct justice through other people is that obstruction?

Clinton obstructed justice by lying.

And Trump did more than ask people to break the law, he fired the head of the FBI because he refused to drop a criminal investigation into his National Security Advisor, an investigation that culminated in a guilty plea from the defendant.

 

McConnell, gambled rightly, that Trump was the useful idiot he needed to push his corporatist ideology upon us all, and now the Religious Right is using the useful idiot to force their religion into our laws.

26 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Elections have consequences. 

 

Thanks Obama.

This is the price we pay for having an articulate, intelligent, black man with a stable family life as President.

[Llevron]

29 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

You clearly have your head shoved up ***** ********* ***.

 

*edit*

Wow, that's strange, never saw the forum censor do that before.

 

Did it do that weird special character thing that doesn't censor it at all or just miss it? I have seen both.