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An Ex-KGB Agent Says Trump

Was a Russian Asset Since 1987. Does it Matter?

by Jonathan Chait

 

In 2018, I became either famous or notorious — depending on your point of view — for writing a story speculating that Russia had secret leverage over Trump (which turned out to be correct). The story’s most controversial suggestion was that it was plausible, though hardly certain, that Russia’s influence over Trump might even date back as far as 1987.

 

...reporter Craig Unger got a former KGB spy to confirm on the record that Russian intelligence had been working Trump for decades. In his new book, “American Kompromat,” Unger interviewed Yuri Shvets, who told him that the KGB manipulated Trump with simple flattery. “In terms of his personality, the guy is not a complicated cookie,” he said, “his most important characteristics being low intellect coupled with hyperinflated vanity. This makes him a dream for an experienced recruiter.”

This is what intelligence experts mean when they describe Trump as a Russian “asset.” It’s not the same as being an agent. An asset is somebody who can be manipulated, as opposed to somebody who is consciously and secretly working on your behalf.

Shvets told Unger that the KGB cultivated Trump as an American leader, and persuaded him to run his ad attacking American alliances. “The ad was assessed by the active measures directorate as one of the most successful KGB operations at that time,” he said, “It was a big thing — to have three major American newspapers publish KGB soundbites.

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 From the Guardian

 

Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House

Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy

July 15, 2021

by Luke Harding, Julian Borger and Dan Sabbagh

 

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

 

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

 

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.

 

There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex.”

 

There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory.”

 

The paper refers to “certain events” that happened during Trump’s trips to Moscow. Security council members are invited to find details in appendix five, at paragraph five, the document states. It is unclear what the appendix contains.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

 

 

 

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Some are urging caution about the veracity of the leaked documents, though Guardian reporters had intelligence experts examine the documents to determine their reliability.  They wrote:

 

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.

 

I suppose it could be a Kremlin effort - or a separate effort -  to sow discord, either by leaking actual documents, or creating authentic looking documents to leak.

 

But it does track with just about everything we've heard before.  Besides, any document that describes Donald J. Trump as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex” sounds pretty on-the-nose to me.

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37 minutes ago, Dan T. said:

I suppose it could be a Kremlin effort - or a separate effort -  to sow discord, either by leaking actual documents, or creating authentic looking documents to leak.

 

But it does track with just about everything we've heard before.  Besides, any document that describes Donald J. Trump as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex” sounds pretty on-the-nose to me.

 

Regardless of if its real or not, the Kremlin would try to take advantage of the discord. They always have and they always will. 

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1 hour ago, Dan T. said:

 From the Guardian

 

Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House

Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy

July 15, 2021

by Luke Harding, Julian Borger and Dan Sabbagh

 

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

 

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

 

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.

 

There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex.”

 

There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory.”

 

The paper refers to “certain events” that happened during Trump’s trips to Moscow. Security council members are invited to find details in appendix five, at paragraph five, the document states. It is unclear what the appendix contains.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

 

 

 

I never understood the kompromat angle with Trump.  If he had some prostitutes piss on him or whatever, how many votes does he lose?  The Russians could have video of him beheading children and his disciples and followers would justify it.

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It's completely believable. 
 

And completely untrustworthy. 
 

Although, there are a few pieces of evidence that lend it support. 
 

The unchallengeable fact that Russia did, in fact, use their national security apparatus to help Trump. 

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2 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

I never understood the kompromat angle with Trump.  If he had some prostitutes piss on him or whatever, how many votes does he lose?  The Russians could have video of him beheading children and his disciples and followers would justify it.

 

It's not about him losing votes.  it's blackmail so that they can get him to do what they want when he's in office.  Like this:

 

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

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4 minutes ago, China said:

 

It's not about him losing votes.  it's blackmail so that they can get him to do what they want when he's in office.  Like this:

 

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

But why would he care if they released it?  Why wouldn’t he do what is in his best interest anyway and just claim everything leaked is a deep fake?  Now I totally see how Russia would have financial leverage over him and he’d do the things you mention.  But the scandalous kompromat doesn’t seem like it’d be impactful to DJT as it would be to someone like Graham.

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35 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

I never understood the kompromat angle with Trump.  If he had some prostitutes piss on him or whatever, how many votes does he lose?  The Russians could have video of him beheading children and his disciples and followers would justify it.

 

Before he was elected we didnt know for sure how far they would follow this dude off the cliff. Now, its obvious they dont care. Back then we still thought they might have. 

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The fact that a leak shows completely believable information, and is consistent with every known fact, does not mean it's not fake.  

 

- Dan Rather.  

 

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EXCLUSIVE: Newly Unsealed Transcript Reveals Crux Of Mueller’s Collusion Case

 

Internal Trump campaign polling data from the 2016 election was sent to a person close to Russia’s leader, according to recently unsealed statements by a prosecutor from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office.

 

At a sealed February 2019 hearing in D.C. federal court, prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said that data shared by former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort ended up in the hands of someone close to Vladimir Putin.

 

“And for us, the issue of internal campaign polling data being sent to REDACTED, who the defendant conceded is extremely close to the senior leader in Russia, is in the core of what it is that the special counsel is supposed to be investigating,” Weissmann told U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson for the District of Columbia on February 4, 2019.

 

A transcript of the hearing was unsealed Thursday, but the identity of the person who received the data remains redacted.

 

Click on the link for the full article

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