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Cooked Crack Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Rand clarifies. "I am still a stooge." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Rand clarifies. "I am still a stooge." Well, he did come back from the visit to Russia with a stronger defense of Trump. Imagine while over there he saw something that would end his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Well, he did come back from the visit to Russia with a stronger defense of Trump. Imagine while over there he saw something that would end his career life. A little add there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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@DCGoldPants Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, mistertim said: A little add there... also... Surely It's a Coincidence That a Firm Tied to a Russian Oligarch Is Pouring Millions Into Kentucky The Louisville Courier-Journal is chasing a story that further illustrates what a wonderful environment for coincidence the current political moment happens to be. Kentucky might be going into business with the Russian mafia. Not the rough-and-tumble “Godfather” crowd with the bent noses and such names like Tessio, Barzini and Luca Brasi. If all goes according to plan, by the middle of the year, we’ll be in business with Oleg Deripaska, a buddy of Vladimir Putin. He could be sending $200 million — if you believe media reports — in what could very well be mobbed-up money to northeastern Kentucky to build a $1.7 billion aluminum plant on an old strip mine there. The 51-year-old billionaire emerged as a powerful businessman following the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union after a bloody fight for control of Russia's aluminum industry. Last November, the New York Times quoted Mikhail Khodorkovsky, another Russian billionaire, saying he stayed out of that battle and urged those he worked with to do the same because of the ruthlessness of the fight. “There were so many murders, I refused to go into this business,” Khodorkovsky said. According to the Times, many have claimed that Deripaska “engaged in theft, intimidation, bribery and even murder, notably of a Russian banker in 1995,” but that none of those claims has been substantiated. It seems that Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin was hot to build a new aluminum milling plant, but that the proposed location was not suitable for such a large operation. The cost of finding a new location drained the project's funds. And along came the Volga Bagmen to the rescue. Enter Rusal, a Russian aluminum company that until just three months ago was barred from doing business in the United States in part because of its ties to Deripaska. The Trump administration lifted the sanctions in January after Deripaska agreed to reduce his ownership stake in the Moscow-based company, the world’s second-largest aluminum manufacturer, from 70% to less than 45%. Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin is a character indeed. Tasos KatopodisGetty Images But there was Kentucky-specific help needed, too. And that came only after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell backed that decision despite large numbers of Republicans and Democrats who objected to allowing Rusal and its parent company En+ Group into the United States. The House voted to keep the sanctions 362-53, but the Senate fell three votes short of the 60 votes needed to end a filibuster. McConnell, along with Sen. Rand Paul, voted against the resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Wiggles Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Liz Cheney with some classic political projection. How she spews that garbage with a straight face is beyond my comprehension. Ghouliani headed to Ukraine to conspire with more Putin cronies it seems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, visionary said: The President of the United States is asking a Russian ally to generate propaganda, to help Donald Trump feed the narrative that Trump has never colluded with Russia. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burgold Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 This thread is so depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) This isn't news. It's more for my own sanity to lay this out as events move forward... The Lie: "Russian Witch Hunt. No Collusion. No Obstruction." The Truth: 1. Russian Witch Hunt. The intelligence wing of the Russian military conducted an active, systematic campaign to interfere in the U.S. election in order to help Donald Trump and hurt Hilary Clinton. With the sheer, unprecedented number of contacts with Russians by members of the Trump campaign, and their flat out lies about those contacts, the FBI and intelligence agencies would have been derelict if they didn't investigate BOTH the Russian interference AND Trump campaign connections to that interference. 2. No Collusion. The Trump campaign actively sought and encouraged Russian interference, and the chairman of the Trump campaign and his deputy provided, on an ongoing basis, campaign data and strategy to a Russian political consultant with ties to Russian intelligence. 3. No Obstruction. The Mueller report outlined in clear detail the case for criminal obstruction. Hundreds of federal prosecutors, D and R and I, agree. Edited May 10, 2019 by Dan T. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoCalMike Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 11 hours ago, clietas said: Liz Cheney with some classic political projection. How she spews that garbage with a straight face is beyond my comprehension. Ghouliani headed to Ukraine to conspire with more Putin cronies it seems. The best part is her spewing all this at the same exact time Ghouliani is flying to the Ukraine to ask a foreign government to meddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoCalMike Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I think Donald Trump is the first person ever to be shook by Joe Biden. It's really quite astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, visionary said: To be more accurate, he is asking a Putin puppet to manufacture a scandal, so he can use it to prop up the notion that Trump and his subordinates have never colluded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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@DCGoldPants Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I don't know. Rudy sure seems like a foreign agent. Might need to add him to the do not fly list and restrict his entry into the United States. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoCalMike Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 William Barr stars in the sequel to........The Fugitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: William Barr stars in the sequel to........The Fugitive. They'd get John Goodman to play Barr. Pre-diet John Goodman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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