visionary Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Or even a third thing, were those investigations because of politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Llevron said: I wonder what the chances are that Cohen is lying about the Prague thing. Pretty sure Mueller has a cell phone tower just outside of Prague that pinged Cohen’s cell. So Cohen was probably “technically” correct if he said he’s never been to prague but for all intents and purposes was right there proving the dossier claim was accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, visionary said: WTF? Guiliani said it multiple times that this was their goal. Trump’s efforts to undermine this investigation have worked. It doesn’t matter what the report reveals anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 the mueller investigation isn’t a witch hunt, stuff going on in congress now... sure seems politically motivated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: the mueller investigation isn’t a witch hunt, stuff going on in congress now... sure seems politically motivated. Congress has political motivations? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Congress is a ****ing embarrassment nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Edited March 19, 2019 by DogofWar1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 13 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: the mueller investigation isn’t a witch hunt, stuff going on in congress now... sure seems politically motivated. An investigation by Congress can have political motivations but at the same time be completely valid and necessary. The initial investigation into what happened during the Benghazi attack had political motivations but also was valid and necessary. ...the subsequent 10 investigations into the same thing that failed to produce nothing new, not so much. The investigations into Trump's finances and other things obviously are going to have political motivations, but IMO they're also totally valid and very necessary considering how blatant and cavalier this admin has been about flaunting oversight or any rules/norms of governance as well as how Trump's potential financial conflicts of interest could have major consequences on how he makes decisions and hence for the people of this country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: An investigation by Congress can have political motivations but at the same time be completely valid and necessary. The initial investigation into what happened during the Benghazi attack had political motivations but also was valid and necessary. ...the subsequent 10 investigations into the same thing that failed to produce nothing new, not so much. The investigations into Trump's finances and other things obviously are going to have political motivations, but IMO they're also totally valid and very necessary considering how blatant and cavalier this admin has been about flaunting oversight or any rules/norms of governance as well as how Trump's potential financial conflicts of interest could have major consequences on how he makes decisions and hence for the people of this country. Mueller had pervue to investigate any criminal act by trump and his associate... the rest of this is for show. i agree about Benghazi and Clinton in general. What aboutism ftw... Time to start investigating Beto now anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Mueller had pervue to investigate any criminal act by trump and his associate... the rest of this is for show. i agree about Benghazi and Clinton in general. What aboutism ftw... Time to start investigating Beto now anyway This is nonsense. Congress and the the American public may very well never know what's in Mueller's report. If Mueller declines to indict Trump for anything (which is likely no matter what he finds as Mueller is known to be a strict adherent to DoJ guidelines) and subsequently Barr chooses to give an extremely limited overview of the Mueller report to Congress (which is technically all the law says he has to do) that is more or less a cover-up, then Congress has every right to continue investigations and get to the bottom of things and expose possible corruption, law breaking, financial conflicts of interest, etc. in the executive branch. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Whoopsies 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Tfw when you are the instrument of your own demise. Edit: Ninja'd by Crooked Crack Edited March 19, 2019 by DogofWar1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mistertim said: This is nonsense. Congress and the the American public may very well never know what's in Mueller's report. If Mueller declines to indict Trump for anything (which is likely no matter what he finds as Mueller is known to be a strict adherent to DoJ guidelines) and subsequently Barr chooses to give an extremely limited overview of the Mueller report to Congress (which is technically all the law says he has to do) that is more or less a cover-up, then Congress has every right to continue investigations and get to the bottom of things and expose possible corruption, law breaking, financial conflicts of interest, etc. in the executive branch. Trump does not have the political power to block the mueller report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Trump does not have the political power to block the mueller report. He doesn't need to fully block it. All he has to do is make sure his AG's report to Congress (which is all that's technically required...the DoJ doesn't have to release the full report to them at all) basically says nothing at all. They'll say the Mueller report didn't have direct evidence of a crime by Trump (even if the report does lay out tons of actual evidence but Mueller doesn't choose to try and indict) and leave it at that. Then Trump will get on Twitter and go on Fox and Friends and scream about how it's proof that there was "NO COLLUSION!" and his supporters will absolutely eat it up. Congress won't be able to do anything about it because Mitch McUnamerican will block anything in the Senate that forces the full report to be given to them and/or made public, even though the House just voted unanimously for it to be released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Whoopsies ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Whoopsies They told him it was for Hillary's emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Thats ****ing great Lol. I wonder who slid that provision in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The other thing with this story, they 1,000% got Jr, Ivanka, and Eric, Kushner, Barron, etc. emails. 1,000%. These people are probably ****ting bullets now thinking that their deletion campaign was a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 31 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Trump does not have the political power to block the mueller report. Technically true, but he nominated someone who does or does in effect specifically because this man was willing to shield Trump and had written documents in the past saying he believed doing so was the correct move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, Llevron said: Thats ****ing great Lol. I wonder who slid that provision in there. Hahah. Can you imagine being that dude who has to be the one to tell Trump about this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mistertim said: Congress won't be able to do anything about it because Mitch McUnamerican will block anything in the Senate that forces the full report to be given to them and/or made public, even though the House just voted unanimously for it to be released. If trump covers it up as you suggest, and mueller stays silent, mueller is complicit in the cover up... seems highly unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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