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Moose & Squirrel v Boris & Natasha: what's the deal with the rooskies and trumpland?

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27 minutes ago, twa said:

 

You can't talk about lawyers like that, what did he ever do to you?

 

you can point at the doll if it helps.

 

Image result for where did he touch you doll

 

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3 minutes ago, mistertim said:

"Radical New Dem Women Exposed" sounds like a skeevy playboy issue.

 

You are (halfway) joking but I think half of what they hate about AOC is that they wanna smash soooo bad. I have theorized for a long time that half of what the right and left have major issues with is how they respond to sexual frustration/openness or whatever you wanna call that.  

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3 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

You are (halfway) joking but I think half of what they hate about AOC is that they wanna smash soooo bad. I have theorized for a long time that half of what the right and left have major issues with is how they respond to sexual frustration/openness or whatever you wanna call that.  

 

I think what they hate about AOC is that she's basically stolen Trump's playbook and using it for evil (in their eyes).  Like Trump, she does not give a ****, is not afraid to be brash and outspoken, their critics both loaaaaathe and love to hate them.  They both have huge followings and fanbases...while a lot of people straight up hate them, they have passionate followers.  Both of them love to stir up their base.  Both are huge on twitter.  Both claim that they're here to challenge/change the status quo.  

 

It's different messages between the two with the same delivery.  So I think the right hates her/is fearful of her because she's using his same tactics.  No one on the left really does, so for them to have someone who can be as brash as Trump makes them afraid.  

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AOC has literally nothing in common with Trump, “playbook” or otherwise.

 

Get a hold of yourself, Spiff.  

 

Yeesh...talk about shook.

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25 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

You are (halfway) joking but I think half of what they hate about AOC is that they wanna smash soooo bad. I have theorized for a long time that half of what the right and left have major issues with is how they respond to sexual frustration/openness or whatever you wanna call that.  

 

If you ever want a laugh (or cry, depending on your mood and the article in question) go to Breitbart and read some of the comments in any story about AOC. You see TONS of right wing guys on there trying to make fun of her looks, calling her ugly, talking about how they'd never touch a woman so gross.

 

I'm like "Bruh, stop lying to yourself. If you could, your incel ass would smash that before she could finish saying 'yes' to you". It's so hilarious. 

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So I was on a group text with my old buddies from the Navy last night. One of them asked me, "If Trump is so guilty of so many things, why isn't he in jail?"

 

Sigh...

 

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18 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

AOC has literally nothing in common with Trump, “playbook” or otherwise.

 

Get a hold of yourself, Spiff.  

 

Yeesh...talk about shook.

 

Ok. 

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6 minutes ago, Chachie said:

So I was on a group text with my old buddies from the Navy last night. One of them asked me, "If Trump is so guilty of so many things, why isn't he in jail?"

 

Sigh...

 

 

Set him off and say white privilege lol

 

31 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

I think what they hate about AOC is that she's basically stolen Trump's playbook and using it for evil (in their eyes).  Like Trump, she does not give a ****, is not afraid to be brash and outspoken, their critics both loaaaaathe and love to hate them.  They both have huge followings and fanbases...while a lot of people straight up hate them, they have passionate followers.  Both of them love to stir up their base.  Both are huge on twitter.  Both claim that they're here to challenge/change the status quo.  

 

It's different messages between the two with the same delivery.  So I think the right hates her/is fearful of her because she's using his same tactics.  No one on the left really does, so for them to have someone who can be as brash as Trump makes them afraid.  

 

I actually see where you are coming from with this. Shes not the same as Trump, obviously, and I know you aint saying that. But some of what they like about him, they see in her and they have to hate that. Very interesting observation 

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Just now, Llevron said:

 

Set him off and say white privilege lol

 

 

I actually see where you are coming from with this. Shes not the same as Trump, obviously, and I know you aint saying that. But some of what they like about him, they see in her and they have to hate that. Very interesting observation 

 

Yup, obviously different policies and beliefs but the way they deliver them is similar.  

 

I know @TryTheBeal! won't like it, but here: 

 

https://theweek.com/articles/810563/alexandria-ocasiocortez-progressive-trump

 

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Just like Trump's, AOC's appeal is a matter of rhetoric and personality, not of policy acumen or relevant experience. She struggles every bit as much as the president does with facts. Basic norms about American civic life appear to have eluded her. She struggled — twice — to name the three branches of government in a recent conversation. She is, to put it kindly, not good with numbers. She believes it is possible for the Pentagon to have lost track of $21 trillion in the past seven years, a figure that is both larger than the gross domestic product of the United States and far in excess of the entire combined budget of our military from 1789 to the present. (After this was pointed out to her, she responded by doubling down and making fun of her interlocutor's family.) She has also insisted that the Pentagon received an additional $700 billion from Congress this year, which would have been a roughly 100 percent increase in its budget: "They were like, we don't want another fighter jet! Don't give us another nuclear bomb. They didn't even ask for it. And we gave it to them." But actually, like, they didn't because the actual increase from 2017 to 2018 was $61 billion.

 

 

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The difference between AOC & Trump however is that AOC may trip up on some of the details of procedures or policies, but Trump clearly has no idea what he is talking about most of the time.  I would much more compare AOC to a Dubya, where while they might make an error in a statement, you still get the idea that they generally understand how the institutions of Government work.  Trump on the other hand operates from a baseline of fantasy land.  He also doesn't seem very interested in knowing or learning much more than he does, and why should he since he already thinks he is always the smartest man in the room, any room, at any time.....in the history of the world. 

 

The critics of AOC hate her policies so they will nitpick at her in order to creature the illusion that she isn't intelligent, where as Trump is pretty forthcoming about not actually knowing anything about....anything.

 

Also, it looks like the GOP really is going to run with the "Socialism boogeyman" for 2020.  It really is quite pathetic, but this is America, so it is likely going to work at least for the next 10-20 years worth of elections because there are still enough people who don't even really know what actual Socialism is or means, so they will just be duped like usual into thinking anything besides cutting taxes for the wealthy even further is socialism.  Trump has started including anti-socialism rhetoric in speeches.  Does anyone actually believe he truly understands what that even means?  Not a chance, he just hears it on Fox news so he puts it in his material.  He knows his crowds that show up for him are the folks whipped up into Fox News frenzy and Trump merely wants to deliver those goods.

 

And to take this even further, half the problem with AOC is the media trying to anoint her as a leader of the DNC.  Now don't get me wrong, I love me some AOC for a lot of reasons and think she has a bright future in politics once she grows and matures into the position, but as of today, right now? She is a freshman rep of a tiny district and the media is trying to elevate her status into a "vs Trump" thing as if she is on the 2020 ticket or something.    I guarantee you, if the media scoured the country for freshman congress members of tiny districts that no one has heard of you find a lot worse than AOC on both sides of the aisle. 

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1 minute ago, NoCalMike said:

The difference between AOC & Trump however is that AOC may trip up on some of the details of procedures or policies, but Trump clearly has no idea what he is talking about most of the time.  I would much more compare AOC to a Dubya, where while they might make an error in a statement, you still get the idea that they generally understand how the institutions of Government work.  Trump on the other hand operates from a baseline of fantasy land.  He also doesn't seem very interested in knowing or learning much more than he does, and why should he since he already thinks he is always the smartest man in the room, any room, at any time.....in the history of the world. 

 

The critics of AOC hate her policies so they will nitpick at her in order to creature the illusion that she isn't intelligent, where as Trump is pretty forthcoming about not actually knowing anything about....anything.

 

Also, it looks like the GOP really is going to run with the "Socialism boogeyman" for 2020.  It really is quite pathetic, but this is America, so it is likely going to work at least for the next 10-20 years worth of elections because there are still enough people who don't even really know what actual Socialism is or means, so they will just be duped like usual into thinking anything besides cutting taxes for the wealthy even further is socialism.

 

Another big difference is the out and out deliberate, over the top lying over and over again. AOC isn't a policy wonk at the moment and she's shown a penchant for seemingly relying on some information without enough fact checking, but from what i've seen/read she doesn't appear to be deliberately lying or spreading false information in the same cynical way as Trump. From my understanding, she's also mostly acknowledged when she says something factually inaccurate and doesn't keep repeating it over and over again anyway, like Trump does.

 

Trump is a malignant narcissist/sociopath who is completely and utterly amoral and is willing to do or say absolutely anything that will further his personal goals, regardless of how it may affect others (and now the country). I think AOC is an ideologue without much policy experience who has relied on some bad info and fudged/stretched some facts, but who appears to genuinely want to help people...even if she is making mistakes along the way. 

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The other difference between AOC and Trump is that one is a backbench House member, one of 435, and the other one is the President of the United States.  

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47 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

AOC has literally nothing in common with Trump, “playbook” or otherwise.

 

Get a hold of yourself, Spiff.  

 

Yeesh...talk about shook.

She's charismatic.

 

Add: I think she is far more honest and intellectually curious than Trump. I think what worries the right is you have someone who comes off as quite likable pitching ideas that are fairly far left. Charisma wins in the U.S., it is more important to the swing voter than just about anything else.

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We could fill 200 pages listing the ways that the 29YO, former waitress freshman Rep is vastly different than the 72YO real estate magnate, reality TV star.

 

Or we could just roll our eyes and attempt to remain tethered to some form of reality.

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2 hours ago, DogofWar1 said:

If you want to know what went wrong with America in one quote, well, here it is.

 

 

This isn't to say we shouldn't prosecute DUIs (defending them is like 50% of my business) but the total lack of resources and actions on white collar crime have made our financial sector a playground for organized crime.  It's partially by design, no less.

 

Hey, what could go wrong with a Republican administration making a deliberate decision to ignore regulation of the financial sector?  

 

Make Bubbles Great Again. 

 

 

1 hour ago, mistertim said:

"Radical New Dem Women Exposed" sounds like a skeevy playboy issue.

 

Next issue of National Enquirer. 

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H'd rather put an illegal in jail for DUI than a white collar bank fraud.

Now, I know this comes as a shock to the perpetually tunnel visioned terror stricken GOP piglet.

The law allows us to do both.

 

i know, i know,, prosecuting white...   uh. collar criminals is frowned upon by anyone who profits from them (it's not you, stupid, no matter how many pennies they tossed you for your fealty), but we certainly CAN send some cops to arrest people robbing millions of people, while still letting Barney Fife roast his balls with a radar gun to catch the drunk illegal.

 

Morons who allow this **** ought to be ashamed of their inability to not only think for themselves, but utter failure to call out any of the bull**** they eat.

Embarrassing how willfully stupid they let themselves be.

 

~Bang

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3 hours ago, DogofWar1 said:

This isn't to say we shouldn't prosecute DUIs (defending them is like 50% of my business) but the total lack of resources and actions on white collar crime have made our financial sector a playground for organized crime.  It's partially by design, no less.

I completely loathe people who drink and drive no matter their immigration status.  I consider it to be worse than most white collar crimes.  Considering the number of people killed each year in alcohol related accidents is almost the same as gun homicides, I don't get why more isn't done about it.  And I loathe the people that defend them (in the sense of trying to get them off somehow instead of them admitting they did something horrible).  Though I freely admit I am biased for personal reasons.  I'll try not to hold it against you.

 

As for white collar crimes, they reason people in power don't push too hard for them to be investigated is because either they or someone they are close with have their hands in that criminals pockets. 

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1 hour ago, Bang said:

H'd rather put an illegal in jail for DUI than a white collar bank fraud.

Now, I know this comes as a shock to the perpetually tunnel visioned terror stricken GOP piglet.

The law allows us to do both.

 

i know, i know,, prosecuting white...   uh. collar criminals is frowned upon by anyone who profits from them (it's not you, stupid, no matter how many pennies they tossed you for your fealty), but we certainly CAN send some cops to arrest people robbing millions of people, while still letting Barney Fife roast his balls with a radar gun to catch the drunk illegal.

 

Morons who allow this **** ought to be ashamed of their inability to not only think for themselves, but utter failure to call out any of the bull**** they eat.

Embarrassing how willfully stupid they let themselves be.

 

~Bang

 

 

Not to mention that according to this guy, he apparently will not be arresting any "legals" for DUI.

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34 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

The lessons to be learned by the young children of conservatives from the Bromwich tweet above:

1. Don't serve in the military, but have your father bribe a doctor to declare you unfit for service.

2. Lie prodigiously and enthusiastically, so much so that you can't discern reality from the fantasy of a world you create in your mind based on those lies.  Soon the lies roll so easily off your tongue that...

3. You could walk out onto 5th Avenue and shoot somebody, and gullible, ill informed and/or morally corrupt people will still support you.

 

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Manafort hoping Barr will recommend that Trump pardon him. He's already done it for one President might as well do it for another.

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