PleaseBlitz Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: reminds me of an old joke What do Republicans and Democrats have in common? They both want to spend the Republicans money. That is an old joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: That is an old joke. touche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bang said: This isn't sports. But some treat it like it is. Imagine if you can see how what you just wrote is the root of the problem i mention. Solutions are not desired. Political egg on opposition faces is far more valuable to these people and their enablers. Your sentence is the enabler, this attitude is why we are where we are. We refuse to blame who is to blame. we blame only who will score us points (and by us, do not think i mean YOU or ME.. but these people who keep these problems until they can best use them to exploit us for more power... they are not of "US". Fools pretend they are. But they're not. They use you and your blind loyalty like a teenagers tissue.) The guy who leaves the vault open is more to blame than the thieves that go in and rob it blind. What i hear is It's HIS fault THEY are thieves. No. THEY are thieves. You remember all the ****ing about the bill being 1500 pages lo0ng, and all the complaining that no one could read it and that bills were too complicated for avg. Americans? You know why they have to be that long? because this country is filled with thieves, cheats and grifters, and every single foreseeable loophole has to be accounted for or it will be immediately exploited to rob as much as can be robbed until it is closed. (from so-called"TRUST" industries. Medicine. Banking. Insurance. Sharks and thieves looking for every opportunity to take more than they should, to steal as much as they can.. legally or not. Power means i can bankrupt you if you try to stop me. and they can, and routinely do. Oh, but it's not their fault. They are not to blame for their thievery and dishonesty. The person who didn't close every hole is to blame.. not the thief. Not the exploiters. Not the ones we need protection from. Our "MORALITY" is ass backwards. and that is hardly a surprise. May as well blame the police for every robbery or murder they don't stop beforehand. Does that make sense to you? ~Bang Yes sir. This is not sports. But the analogy is accurate. It's been that way for ever. It's why it's better known as Obamacare, than it is the ACA. Just like Clinton gets all the credit, from the left, for the economy of the 90's. Even though it was the Republican Congress, who had him over a barrel forcing him to sign on to things. But, he still gets the credit because it happened on his watch. That's all I meant. Of course I want solutions. But just as you voice your disdain for almost everything R, I disdain almost everything D. I don't think they have a clue. Their solution to almost everything is, just keep pouring money on it. It'll have to get better. True. And I blame both party's. I wish they'd both burn to the ground and start over. It was another consideration I used to vote Trump. Figuring, if he destroyed the R party, as the never Trumpers predicted, that would be a good thing. If he accomplishes half of what he's said he would, it will effectively destroy the D party, (they're already imploding) that would be a good thing too. A no lose proposition. Now, before you say the country loses, understand that my belief is, after watching this country fall further down the liberal hole for 8yrs, that it's already lost beyond repair. We were on a slow trek to becoming the European style socialist utopia the left desires. I know it wouldn't be during my lifetime, but it wouldn't be long after. I was prepared to spend the rest of my days voting for every D, on every ballot, of every election. The further left, the better. Join the AARP and scream for every social security increase I could get, to help subsidize the extravagances of my retirement. 1 second left on the clock. 4th and 40 from our own 1 yd line. Game over. Then Trump won the nomination, and provided us with a Hail Mary. Trump = Slim chance for the country. Hillary = No chance at all. The choice was easy. If Trump fails, then it's D's forever after for me. Get as much money out of the government as legally possible. Hunt, fish, drink, repeat. And I'd also say, the D's left the vault open, just by being themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, PeterMP said: 1. The DOJ doesn't make laws. The Constitution doesn't even mention the DOJ. 2. That isn't really evidence that it didn't happen. Just because something can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean that it didn't happen. OJ wasn't convicted of murder, but plenty of people think he's guilty. You wouldn't say OJ's guilt is an illusion. It just wasn't proven in a court of law beyond what a jury felt was reasonable doubt. 3. Lots of things have been done to tighten up our election security over the last 30 years. Democrats are against one specific idea that Republicans admittedly support because they think it will help them win elections. 1. No, they don't make laws. But they've set the precedent. Which usually followed more, than not. That's all I'm saying with that. 2. Correct. But evidence isn't really evidence until it's submitted to a court. Or until a deal is cut with an admission of such. These things haven't happened. The only evidence, pro or con, has been submitted by people trying to spin it in their favor. We would all do well to wait until something actually happens. But, we're all impatient, myself included, in a hurry to have our opinions verified. 3. Just like D's want to let every illegal alien in the country in, and vote, whether they're a citizen or not, since they're confident they will vote D. If they were trying to come here and vote R, they'd okay land mining the entire southern border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Ax said: No sir. I believe in the collusion illusion more than I do any God/organized religion. And you know how much I believe in that. It's one of the stances I hold that disqualifies me as an R, or staunch conservative. That, and the belief that abortions should be available to any woman who desires one. There are a few caveats, but the bottom line holds. Interesting! Glad I asked. Will lead to more conversations in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Ax said: 3. Just like D's want to let every illegal alien in the country in, and vote, whether they're a citizen or not, since they're confident they will vote D. If they were trying to come here and vote R, they'd okay land mining the entire southern border. This is an infuriatingly stupid statement, if you actually believe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1024386439801384960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spjunkies Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 That guy looks like a straight up hobo. Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, visionary said: https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1024386439801384960 I made it about 3 posts before I had to yell for Tank to pull me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Ax said: No, they're both despicable. Neither side is worth saving in their present form. Says the Red Hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 6 hours ago, NoCalMike said: I implore you to go back a year ago and find any of these same people saying "Collusion is not a crime" Look... I’m not trying to be a jerk, it’s just that when I read this I though “well that should be easy” and it was i got back to either may or March of last year and stopped. “Collusion is not a crime” has been the “...but ....” from the beginning https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/103204036 http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/new-pro-trump-line-collusion-is-not-a-crime/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/23/gregg-jarrett-what-is-robert-mueller-investigating-since-collusion-is-not-crime.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/collusion-russia-trump-crime-2017-6 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/collusion-is-not-a-crime-by-itself-here-are-the-charges-mueller-could-be-exploring/2017/10/31/eb2b516e-be59-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html every time its the new defense its always been part of the defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Ax said: No sir. I believe in the collusion illusion more than I do any God/organized religion. And you know how much I believe in that. It's one of the stances I hold that disqualifies me as an R, or staunch conservative. That, and the belief that abortions should be available to any woman who desires one. There are a few caveats, but the bottom line holds. God dammit!! This post sounds too much like me. I'm scared. Someone hold me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hail2skins Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Better bring your ID to the grocery store tomorrow, according to POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Ax said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/judge-brett-kavanaugh-faithfully-applies-the-law-instead-of-making-it-up Sure I can. Because the charge of collusion, is an illusion, born of confusion. Common sense demands it. Prove collusion. Then we'll talk. BTW, media reports, allegations, and continued shrieking, isn't proof. Sorry I mean, Cohen, trumps lawer said it took place. Trump said it wasn’t a crime. 7 hours ago, Ax said: Obviously, the flip side of this is that, the mental gymnastics reside almost exclusively on the left. The "smoke" as you call it, comes from left wing fantasy land, backed up by CNN, and shrieked daily by never Trumpers. The sudden concern over sexual discretions by the left is cute, and all, but it rings hollow after the last 20yrs, in combination with the plethora of sexual deviants coming out of the woodwork on the left. So spare me the indignation. We'll have to see how it all ends. Sexual deviants on the left? You mean homosexuals and transexuals? Still not as sexually deviant as the republicans running for office.... advocating pedophilia and incest. The church is full of republicans and pedophiles. Yours is a rediculous statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, hail2skins said: Better bring your ID to the grocery store tomorrow, according to POTUS. Donald Trump has never purchased groceries in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Ax said: 1. No, they don't make laws. But they've set the precedent. Which usually followed more, than not. That's all I'm saying with that. 2. Correct. But evidence isn't really evidence until it's submitted to a court. Or until a deal is cut with an admission of such. These things haven't happened. The only evidence, pro or con, has been submitted by people trying to spin it in their favor. We would all do well to wait until something actually happens. But, we're all impatient, myself included, in a hurry to have our opinions verified. 3. Just like D's want to let every illegal alien in the country in, and vote, whether they're a citizen or not, since they're confident they will vote D. If they were trying to come here and vote R, they'd okay land mining the entire southern border. 1. In the context of a Supreme Court Justice being good for 'not making laws' that, well the DOJ said so seems like a very bad answer. I'll ask again, where is the law that says the President can't be indicted? 2. Okay, but we can establish some things as essentially being factual. We don't have to wait for a court to decision to decide if things are very likely true or not. If we did our society would grind to a halt. For example, Don Jr certainly meet with somebody representing that they had dirt on Hillary and then initially lied about it. Trump knew when Don Jr. lied about meeting on getting dirt on Hillary that he was lying and went along with the lie. 3. Why are you so sure illegal aliens vote D so heavily? It is estimated that 50% of illegal aliens in this country have come here on airplanes. (It isn't actually clear if it is illegal for non-citizens to vote. It was legal in some early states and territories. If CA really wanted to let non-citizens vote, it is very likely they could pass a law doing so. The Constitution never specifically states that you have to be a citizen to vote. As no state currently allows non-citizens to vote to claim the Democrats want to do something they have not tried to do seems badly flawed to me. And if a Court found allowing non-citizens to vote, then we could say that Court was making up laws.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Where is the evidence of significant numbers of non-citizens voting? Given the consequences of getting caught (deportation), why would a non-citizen want to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: Where is the evidence of significant numbers of non-citizens voting? Given the consequences of getting caught (deportation), why would a non-citizen want to vote? Same place the evidence for tons of people voting multiple times is....in trumps anus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I mean, Cohen, trumps lawer said it took place. Trump said it wasn’t a crime. Sexual deviants on the left? You mean homosexuals and transexuals? Still not as sexually deviant as the republicans running for office.... advocating pedophilia and incest. The church is full of republicans and pedophiles. Yours is a rediculous statement. Yeah he’s dropped a few not so subtle hints throughout his posts that he’s anti-gay and anti-TS. Truly shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Sexual deviants on the left? You mean homosexuals and transexuals? Still not as sexually deviant as the republicans running for office.... advocating pedophilia and incest. The church is full of republicans and pedophiles. Yours is a rediculous statement. It was a dumb statement...but I think...[hope] he's talking about people like Charlie Cook, Matt Lauer, Harvey Weinstein, though there have obviously been plenty such people on the right including numerous politicians forced to resign as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterMP said: 1. In the context of a Supreme Court Justice being good for 'not making laws' that, well the DOJ said so seems like a very bad answer. I'll ask again, where is the law that says the President can't be indicted? The argument is not that the constitution prohibits it. The argument is is that the constitution provides a very clear way of dealing with it, and a criminal indictment is not part of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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