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      On the flip side, the Redskins have a developing passing attack and a disastrous defense. The Redskins haven't had a Defense this vanilla since Mike Nolan received his ice cream. Oh, and the Redskins already have more guys on IR then any other team this season. 
       
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7 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

So what Hillary do that she should be in jail for, Force?

 

She fought to expand healthcare for children of low/moderate-income families.

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11 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

So what Hillary do that she should be in jail for, Force?

It's easier to list what she shouldn't be in jail for. Lock her up!

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5 minutes ago, Burgold said:

All the accusations she's been exonerated of and the endless investigations that found no wrongdoing obviously. Duh!

For 30 years of Republican investigations, Faux News, and opposition research.

And the most they could pin on her was she didn't have a dick, and was a Democrat. But then in the minds of Trump voters, that was enough...so they voted for Trump.

So instead of settling for a warm toilet seat, they chose to drink the full vomit bag that was left in the seat from the previous flight.

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2 hours ago, Renegade7 said:

 

This is me still learning, but most of what I understand about countries apologizing is them. It wanting to so it either.  Canada recently did for something believe, say we did, I'd have zero expectations anyone else would then come right behind us, we should be prepared for that, or it getting bushed off as not good enough.

 

 

This isnt about you being wrong, Benning, if I post a graph showing a step decline in police killings against blacks, I dont think it's right to counter that the ratio of unarmed blacks to unarmed whites hasnt changed and say theres no progress.  Theres also not enough police stats to prove that, which doesnt mean it's not a problem, jus not right to say we've gotten nowhere with this.  The Ferguson and Baltimore investigation show otherwise, expect more of those with a other democratic administration. 

Again, my point in saying this country won't apologize was rhetorical. Of course I want policy changes, but if you can't fix your mouth to say, "yeah, that slavery thing our bad," then how can we talk about policy? From my view, America is saying it wasn't wrong but was a step in this nation's growth that we had to go through. Bump All THAT.

 

 

I know what graph you posted. The graph I posted shows the ratio you originally shared had gone up. End of the day, I don't want people being murdered by the police. That's all. I know that sounds simple but that's all I care about. The fact is black, brown, and an indigenous person is more likely to be murdered by police than a white person by a significant amount.

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Having unprotected sex with a porn star while your wife is home with your new-born son, and having a year long affair with a Playboy playmate, and then directing the payment of hush money to them for the direct purpose of protecting your Presidential campaign.

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12 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

Okay back to matters of substance

 

 

So nuclear sales to Saudi Arabia (home of Osama Bin Laden, and and 78% of 9/11 terrorists, and the Crown Prince who orders journalists murdered with a bonesaw in the embassy) this is what we're about now.

 

Has anyone else figured out yet, that the plot twist in the movie is that we're the bad guys?

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6 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

For 30 years of Republican investigations, Faux News, and opposition research.

And the most they could pin on her was she didn't have a dick, and was a Democrat.

 

Think you're going a bit too far there.  (Although yeah, you're in the ball park.)  

 

As I understand it, the crime of "mishandling classified information" is pretty broad, and pretty vague.  Yeah, I think it's a safe bet that she violated it.  (Obviously, I don't have the specifics, because it's, you know, classified.)  

 

As I understand it, what the investigation found was:  

 

1)  Three pieces of email which were marked as "Confidential".  

 

Supposedly, when SecState gets ready to meet with representatives of a foreign government, State spends months getting ready for the meeting.  One of the things they do is, they draw up a list of everything that SecState is going to tell the other side.  A whole committee puts things on this list.  And then they spend months arguing about every single bullet point.  

 

The rough drafts of these lists are classified "Confidential".  There's no nuclear launch codes or anything on the list.  (Every thing on this list is something that somebody thought would be a good idea to hand to a foreign government.)  But we don't want foreign governments to see the list of things that we thought about telling them, and then didn't.  

 

When the arguing is over, then the final list is declassified.  (After all, everything on it is something which we've decided to give to a foreign government.  

 

So, those 3 pieces of email were marked as Confidential, but they may not have been.  

 

2)  I think there was an IG report, or something similar, that found like 30 pieces of email which weren't marked as classified, but they concluded that anybody who saw them should have known that they were classified.  

 

3)  And around 70 pieces of email, where the people who went over them looking for classified material concluded that "this wasn't classified at the time, but now that we think about it, we think it ought to be classified, so we're classifying it now."  

 

And I'll note:  I have no clue how many of the above emails were sent by Hillary, and how many were sent to her.  

 

So I figure the odds are good that there's at least one charge of mishandling classified information in there.  

 

OTOH, frankly, given my opinion of the people who have jobs like that, the sheer quantity of classified information that they deal with on a daily basis, combined with an environment that encourages them to think of themselves as superior to all the little people they're surrounded by, I'm amazed that she did as good a job as that with handling it.  I doubt there's a person in Washington, at that level, who could pass that test.  

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31 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

Okay back to matters of substance

 

 

 

 

From the article:

 

Multiple whistleblowers came forward to warn about efforts inside the White House to rush the transfer of highly sensitive U.S. nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia in potential violation of the Atomic Energy Act and without review by Congress as required by law — efforts that may be ongoing to this day,” the report says.

 

The whistleblowers also “warned about a working environment inside the White House marked by chaos, dysfunction and backbiting. They noted that White House political appointees repeatedly ignored directives from top ethics advisers who repeatedly --- but unsuccessfully -- “ordered senior White House officials to halt their efforts.”

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But guys! I don't want proof i actually have to read and comprehend!

I want proof i already know! Like Hillary is crooked and James Comey is lyin' and stuff like that!

 

**** off "I want to learn".

I know folks over the last couple of years have probably decided i am nothing more than an angry jackass ready to attack these people.

Yes, i am, and now we see why.

 

when i say "I'd disenfranchise every one of them".. this is why. There is absolutely no desire to make anything resembling an informed choice. 
This isn't the old days where these ****ers lived out in the boonies and had little connection to current events.

There is NO excuse to be this ****ing ignorant anymore.

Unless you're for it.

And if you're for this, you are definitely someone i will never respect.

 

And that's being nice.

 

 

 

as to the news...  I can see no reason why we should ever trust the Saudis with nuclear anything.

None.

 

~Bang

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1 minute ago, Dan T. said:

The whistleblowers also “warned about a working environment inside the White House marked by chaos, dysfunction and backbiting. They noted that White House political appointees repeatedly ignored directives from top ethics advisers who repeatedly --- but unsuccessfully -- “ordered senior White House officials to halt their efforts.”

 

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1 hour ago, KAOSkins said:

If you don't think New Mexico is rife with garden spots (many of which are indeed kept so by the efforts of immigrants), you've never been here.  Please use right wing douchebaggie Arizona when you wish to cast these sorts of geographical aspersions.  😉

 

Sorry, mea culpa, you're absolutely right

 

And I have been there and should have known better

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15 minutes ago, Bang said:

when i say "I'd disenfranchise every one of them".. this is why. therecis absolutely no desire to make anything resembling an informed choice. 
This isn't the old days where these ****ers lived out in the boonies and had little connection o current events.

There is NO excuse to be this ****ing ignorant anymore.

Unless you're for it.

And if you're for this, you are definitely someone i will never respect.

 

And that's being nice.

~Bang

i'm with you @Bang, I used to be more egalitarian and wanting to teach and inform, but these MAGA drones want none of it, they aren't interested in facts or fairness, or consistency, or actual Conservative ideology, they are simply cultist drones who will throw their **** around until everyone else walks away from them.

It's useless to talk with them.

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2 hours ago, Burgold said:

Child Interment. Setting up child separation camps with no plans or mechanisms to reunite children with parents is downright evil. When we are talking about Trump, we are often not talking about right or wrong, or degree, but good versus evil.

 

He is perpetrating Nazi works and attempted to do it on a Nazi level. This is why White Nationalists and Nazis have flocked to him. This is why he quotes, paraphrases, retweets, and enacts Nazi platforms.

Not even worth responding too, hmmm, but I did, dammit.  This is just plain sad.

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Just now, Force1958 said:

Not even worth responding too, hmmm, but I did, dammit.  This is just plain sad.

And there you go. I now know who you are.

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2 minutes ago, Burgold said:

And there you go. I now know who you are.

@Burgold, your fairness and egalitarian nature slows you down a lot.

The rest of us arrived there awhile ago, but the fact that you're confirming as well is helpful.

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3 hours ago, Llevron said:

wrong thread @Force1958

 

There is an Trump supporter thread. Go there pls. Ill link it if you need me to 

 

Why?  I've seen a few Pro-Trump threads, funny though, some are from people banned from this thread!!

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15 minutes ago, Force1958 said:

Not even worth responding too, hmmm, but I did, dammit.  This is just plain sad.

 

I assume the Nazi parts of that are why you find it ridiculous. And yet there was an actual Nazi/white supremacist rally in Charlottesville complete with "Jews will not replace us" chants. And the President's response was to say that there were many fine people on both sides.

 

He refused to make the easiest and most obvious condemnation ever because those kind of people are among his strongest supporters. It's beyond disgraceful. Just that incident alone should have been enough to kill the cultish support for him. And yet it didn't. I wonder why? 

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16 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

i'm with you @Bang, I used to be more egalitarian and wanting to teach and inform, but these MAGA drones want none of it, they aren't interested in facts or fairness, or consistency, or actual Conservative ideology, they are simply cultist drones who will throw their **** around until everyone else walks away from them.

It's useless to talk with them.

Why can't it all be chalked up to the Democrats and Republicans having different views on topics and leave it at that?  Very seldom are we successful in getting somebody to change their position on a particular topic.  I know some of you have suggested that your main goal is to attempt to do that.  I'll listen to any of you that would like to try.  All I'm hearing from anything I reply to is that its bull****.  Doesn't lend itself well to having a meaningful conversation.  Some topics between Democrats and Republicans are such that neither side will ever budge. 

 

I'll give you an example on one topic where my views have changed from the Republican base, on abortion.  I'm pro-life, and a lot of my friends are as well, and under no circumstances would they say it's ok to end the life of a fetus, under any circumstances.  I'm on the fence on certain aspects of abortion.  In cases of rape or where the mother's life would end by giving birth, then the decision should be up to the woman to make.

 

I'm also all for giving the millions of illegal aliens here in the US right now a path to citizenship, I didn't used to be.  I used to say they should be deported immediately to their country of origin.

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- Using money, donated by others to the Trump "Foundation," to buy Donald Trump portraits and to settle lawsuits.

 

- Flat out lying to the American people about ongoing business efforts in Russia.

 

- Flat out lying to the American people about those hush payments to Stormy Daniels and the Playboy bunny whose name escapes me (McDougal?)

 

- Bringing Don Jr. into the world.

 

 

1 minute ago, Force1958 said:

Why can't it all be chalked up to the Democrats and Republicans having different views on topics and leave it at that?  Very seldom are we successful in getting somebody to change their position on a particular topic.  I know some of you have suggested that your main goal is to attempt to do that.  I'll listen to any of you that would like to try.  All I'm hearing from anything I reply to is that its bull****.  Doesn't lend itself well to having a meaningful conversation.  Some topics between Democrats and Republicans are such that neither side will ever budge. 

 

I'll give you an example on one topic where my views have changed from the Republican base, on abortion.  I'm pro-life, and a lot of my friends are as well, and under no circumstances would they say it's ok to end the life of a fetus, under any circumstances.  I'm on the fence on certain aspects of abortion.  In cases of rape or where the mother's life would end by giving birth, then the decision should be up to the woman to make.

 

I'm also all for giving the millions of illegal aliens here in the US right now a path to citizenship, I didn't used to be.  I used to say they should be deported immediately to their country of origin.

 

 

For me - and I would guess for most people -  it's not a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It's not policy differences.  It's Donald ****ing Trump. 

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1 minute ago, Force1958 said:

Why can't it all be chalked up to the Democrats and Republicans having different views on topics and leave it at that? 

 

Because it’s not. 

 

This has been explained multiple times. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Force1958 said:

Very seldom are we successful in getting somebody to change their position on a particular topic

Also, this is complete and utter bull****. 

 

I have had my mind changed plenty here through the levels of discuss this place affords. As have others. 

 

You’re projecting your issue with rational political discourse on the rest of us. 

 

Own your difficency here and work to improve it else continue to be berrated for using handwaving bull**** talking points as the foundation of your political knowledge. 

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9 minutes ago, Force1958 said:

Why?  I've seen a few Pro-Trump threads, funny though, some are from people banned from this thread!!

 

Yall pay attention to the amount of stupid it takes to think im banning him from this thread because I told him there is one basically dedicated to his madness and temper your responses with that understanding. 

 

I know we are all almost on the same page here. But I want to be sure you remember this when thinking you can "reach" a Trump supporter. It aint possible. 

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