Dirk Diggler Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Willie Jackson, WR<br /><br />He's 6'1", 200 and caught 81 for 1041 this year. Very good route runner. I believe he played for Spurrier but don't quote me. He's under 30 and we could probably get him for a 3 or 4 mill bonus. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Sounds good to me. I'd like to see a recieving corps consisting of, in no particular order, Az-Hakim, Westy, Jackson, and Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Man, I forgot all about Willie Jackson. He's a solid reciever. He would be very productive for Spurrier and wouldn't cost as much as a high profile WR. <br /><br />A list of WRs I'd be happy to see in a Skins uni are:<br /><br />Willie Jackson<br />Donald Hayes<br />Mushin Muhammed<br />Keenan McCardell(I heard he was a FA now)<br />Az Zahir Hakim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Gardner<br />Skaggs<br />Lockett<br />Flemister<br /><br />Is what we have now and would be productive with a solid line and a above average QB.<br /><br />I'm hoping we dont get caught up with names at the receiver spot and dont address what is important the DT and OG spots no more syopgaps on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Navy<br /><br />Your boy Lockett just got exposed in the Expansion Draft...I guess someone doesn't think too much of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&G Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Well, with Lockett on the list, it appears that we must at least consider the possibilty of drafting or signing a F/A WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCinOz Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 I think Spurrier will take a long look at receivers who have worked in the Fun N Gun before at Florida.<br /><br />So Willie Jackson and Jacquez Green are the name ex-Gators available in free agency.<br /><br />I wonder if he would let Westbrook walk and sign these two guys instead? That will be interesting watching.<br /><br />Other ex-Gator receivers around the league to keep an eye on in the crazy off chance they are released are Ike Hilliard (NYG), Anthony Reidel (Bucs), Travis Taylor (Bal) and Darrell Jackson (Sea).<br /><br />PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 I'd just want to sign Jackson to give our friend Connell a second chance in New Orleans <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCinOz Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Art, you bloody stirrer................ <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchuck Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 I think we should go after speed at the receiver spot. We got a big possesion receiver in Gardner. We gotta get an Az Akim or Muhommed from the Panthers in here. I think we should handle the wideout situation via free agency. and draft young studs on the D and O line. If David Carr falls to us, get him in a heart beat. If not draft a Dt or Saftey to replace David Terrel. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 BigChuck: I agree with the need of a reciever with deep speed, but Mushin Muhammed is more of a possession reciever too. <br /><br />Regardless, I'd still like to see him in a Skins uni. I think he's gotten the best of Champ a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 We still might get Lockett back. I kind of wondered why he was on the list. I thought he did fairly good for us considering the offense we ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman55 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 I know everyone`s talking about speed WR with experience... <br /><br />I think we can get some speed in the 2nd day of the draft..Cliff Russell...At last I hope he falls to the 2nd day...<br /><br />UTAH <br />5-10.5....184 --- 4.27 ------ <br />Awesome deep threat, can be moved off his route, a young Cliff Branch, Cliff had the same trouble of being moved when he was young -but now a threat, hands have improved leaps and bound, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 Russell could be interesting,<br /><br />Cliff Russell<br />Wide Receiver<br />Utah<br />6-0/184<br />40: 4.27 <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />TSN<br />Overall: 7.6<br />Strengths: Is rated high because of speed and potential. Is explosive. Shows an excellent burst off the line. Knows how to change speed, and seems to have a good feel for setting up defensive backs and getting open against zone coverage. Is athletic, and will make big plays. Shows good leaping ability. Is elusive after the catch. Is well built, and has excellent weight-room strength. Weaknesses: Is somewhat of a durability concern; hurt knee as a sophomore and broke an arm as a junior. Is somewhat inconsistent and raw. Needs to make routes crisper and improve consistency of hands. Has a lot of trouble catching passes away from his body; will jump or shift to catch ball with body, which eliminates a lot of yardage after the catch. Bottom line: Russell improved his stock as a senior, but he still is more of a developmental player than proven commodity. He has excellent speed and is explosive with the ball, but he still is rough around the edges. He needs work on his route-running skills and needs to become more consistent in all aspects of his game. Two red flags are Russell's inconsistent hands and durability. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Dan Pompei<br />Is a lanky speed merchant with excellent athleticism. Can make all the catches. Has had some durability problems. A lot of teams have yet to study him, but stock is on the rise. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Sporting News Draft Dish<br />Utah's Cliff Russell and Tennessee's Travis Stephens are two of the fastest-rising players in the draft process right now. Russell is a raw receiver with adequate size (5-11, 180), but he's been clocked as fast as 4.29 in the 40-yard dash and up to this point has shown good consistency and play-making skills with 35 catches in seven games and a 15.2 yards per-catch average. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Joel Buchsbaum<br />Another speed receiver who will drop some passes is Utah’s Cliff Russell, who does not have the return skills or return experience that Davis has. Russell may be the fastest football player ever at Utah, which means he is even faster than Andre Dyson and Steve Smith, who have really impressed with their speed as NFL rookies. Russell has a great second and third gear. He is only about 5-11 and 185 pounds but seems to be well-built for his size and is known as a good weight-room worker. He is pretty fluid, has good feet and can avoid but not overpower the jam. He is not a natural route-runner or receiver, and his hands are really hard to judge. He will make some really tough catches and snatch the ball when he has to on occasion, but he also drops some easy passes. At times, he seems to lack confidence in his ability to snatch the ball and tries to body-catch it. He missed three games with a broken arm last year but showed guts by playing with the arm far from 100 percent recovered at the end of the season. He has been a little more productive this year than last, but he still has dropped some passes.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Mel Kiper<br />One of the fastest players in the nation (4.27 speed in the 40-yard dash), Russell is coming off an impressive seven-catch, 157-yard performance this past week against Wyoming. Russell provides vertical-stretch ability and has developed into a much more consistent performer this season. The Utes have started a nice trend of late when it comes to developing future NFL wideouts, with Russell looking to follow in the footsteps of Kevin Dyson and Steve Smith. <br /><br />Not only is Utah's Cliff Russell arguably the fastest wideout in college football (4.27-second 40-yard dash), but he also has the pass-receiving skills and consistency to enjoy a steady rise up the draft board. Of note was his eye-catching effort against Oregon, when he hauled in seven receptions for 100 yards. This past weekend, Russell caught three passes for 86 yards and a TD against New Mexico. Through four games, the athletically gifted 5-11½, 183-pounder is averaging 15.4 yards per catch on 19 receptions. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Great Blue North<br />With the college football season now just over the half way point, here is a look at a number of players making significant climbs up NFL scouts' draft charts. Some of the most interesting moves are among the WR corps, already a strong position for the 2002 draft. Players who run under 4.3 always tend to grab scouts attention and that's the case with Utah WR Chris Russell. Russell, in fact, has been clocked in the 40 at a brisk 4.27 and while still not a polished receiver has been coming on of late. For the year, the 5-11, 180-pound Russell has 28 receptions in 6 games, averaging over 16 yards per catch along the way. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Rob "Boomer" Rang<br />For this season, the top talent on my board is clearly speedster Cliff Russell. Russell has good size (5'11, 178, #1)and can simply fly down the field (verified 4.25 forty). He isn't nearly as smooth a receiver as some of the other prospects in this draft, and will take some time to get acclimated to the pro game, but you can't teach his physical ability. <br /><br />Utah WR Cliff Russell (#1, 6-0, 180), for example, is one of the fastest players in the country and is an emerging star at the position after hauling in 53 passes this fall. Russell is still unpolished as a receiver, but with sub 4.3 speed has plenty of big-play potential. <br /><br />Fast, fast, fast (4.27) wide receiver with good size and receiving ability. Catches the ball well, runs reliable routes, and heads up field quickly to make the big play. Excellent all around athlete. Super forty, but also is very strong (400 pound squat, 300 pound bench), and boasts a 41" vertical... Despite the fact that Steve Smith is enjoying so much early success with the Carolina Panthers this season, it was Russell who led the Utes in receiving last year, and that was despite missing much or all of the first 4 games with a broken arm. In fact, that is the one major concern with Russell. He has missed time in each season of his career, thus far. Missed 6 games as a redshirt freshman with a broken collarbone. Missed 2 games as a sophomore for tweaking his knee. And then, of course, he missed the 4 games last season. Needs to prove this season that he can, indeed, remain healthy, but if he can, you could see this kid flying up into the late 1st round.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Football Corner<br />Russell has nice size and amazing speed at the WR position. He is a pure burner that can create solid seperation from the defenders. He is a natural athlete that shows a nice ability to go up and catch the football. Russell can create after the catch. Russell has some durability concerns (could be considered injury prone) and needs to improve in all areas of the game. He is a natural talent that is surviving on tremendous athletic skills. He also needs to do a better job of catching with his hands. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />John Murphy<br />Analysis: Utah senior WR Cliff Russell has the best pure speed and acceleration of any receiver available in next year's NFL Draft. He finished last season with 37 catches for 517 yards and three touchdowns despite missing multiple games due to a broken arm. Potentially, Russell is the fastest player in the history of the Mountain West Conference, as he has a verified 40-time of 4.27. However, what sets him apart from other speedy receivers is that he also bench presses 300 pounds and squats 400 pounds, which should help him avoid getting jammed by pro corners. His 41" vertical also comes into play and has helped him average 15.7 yards per catch throughout his career. He had a bit of a pulled hamstring in the spring, but has been running without pain over the summer. His best games as a junior came against Arizona (10 receptions for 141 yards) and Washington State (8 receptions for 131 yards and 2 TDs), which also goes to prove that he does his best against top competition. Russell's speed and potential as a playmaker could allow him to follow in the footsteps of former Utes standout receiver Kevin Dyson, who was taken in the first round by the Tennessee Titans in 1999. His workout at the Indianapolis Combine is sure to be eye-catching to all scouts. <br /><br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyskinsfan Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Hmm, Russell, Skaggs, Green, Gardner, Jackson, <br />*Lockett, Az Zahir Hakim, Westbrook<br />Tight End: Flemister, Rasby, * (?)<br />All in one camp!!!! What a friggin' headache trying to pick your starters <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Good headache though!<br /><br />*exposed to Houston, possible loss<br />*(?) maybe a TE with both of these guys skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Now, THIS guy has "blazing" speed. When I'm talking about top end speed for a mildly smallish receiver, THIS is what I'm talking about <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> . I'd take him in a heart beat with that speed, just hoping he'd work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Mushin Muhammed was just arrested on a possession of marijuana (along with concealed weapons) charge during a traffic stop in Charlotte. <br /><br /> Is that what they mean when they talk about a 'Possession Receiver'? <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br /> Maybe his value just dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 Isnt Skaggs a 4.3 40 guy at 6'3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBlaze Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 I watched Russell during the Senior Bowl and only really saw one play that really involved him. Naturally it was a streak, but the CB ran step for step with him. I was expecting that 2nd gear most speed guys have when the ball is in the air. I know it was only one play, so I wouldn't put that much weight in it. I highly doubt Russell slips to the 2nd day, but you never know. <br />I would be happy with him in the 4th round on. Maybe the Skins can get the double Hawaii WR connection, Ashley Lelie and Cliff Russell (he's from Hawaii as well)!<br /><br />I don't want Az Hakim because he probably thinks he's worth more then he is and his fumbles would give me a heart attack. I would like to see what happens with Terry Glenn. I think he could be signed for cheap because his value right now is dirt. But he's one of the most talented WRs in the NFL. If he comes cheap, there's really nothing to lose by giving him a shot. I just have some weird feeling that all he needs is a change of environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 "I just have some weird feeling that all he needs is a change of environment."<br /><br />I seem to remember hearing the same thing about Lawrence Phillips and Ryan Leaf. <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />Glenn is talented, no doubt. It would, however, make me uncomfortable to rely on someone with his past history af distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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