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12 hours ago, China said:

Brexit: Tentative progress made as EU hints at concessions

 

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Why is it that all over the world, liberals always **** up like a bunch of punks? They should have introduced the Hard Line According to Terrence Trent Darby (yeah, totally dated myself with that reference) from the beginning and made an example of them. Now with Putin and the far-right egging their idiotic followers on, the EU is going to end up with a bunch of other countries with nationalist movements wanting out and the whole thing may collapse. Brilliant.🙄 Putin likely to win again.

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3 hours ago, bearrock said:

 

So how is this different from staying in the EU?

They where never really in it anyway.

 

What really matters to them is to believe they are still the driving force in EU, and that leaving EU will harm Germany's power.

 

Mind you, Brits like to think they are smarter than everybody else and that they still rule the world.

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At long last we have a Brexit deal – and it's as bad as you thought

 

Boris Johnson always expected news of a deal to be greeted with jubilation. It was to be his moment of triumph after three decades of climbing to the summit of British politics by railing against Brussels. The rightwing press dutifully rallied. Even Nigel Farage declared: “The war is over.”

 

The Brexit deal itself is nothing but thin gruel. It will make it much harder for Britain to sell services to EU countries, where we were once advantaged. Britons will lose their right to freely travel, work and settle in other European countries. While there will be no tariffs or restrictions on the quantity of goods that can be sold, British exports will for the first time in decades face checks on their origins and compliance with EU regulations.

 

The government fought hard for regulatory autonomy that it imagines will allow Britain to achieve escape velocity from economic reality. It is a fantasy. Britain’s producers will need to meet EU regulations to sell into their most important export market, no matter what bureaucrats in Whitehall may say. A separate set of British regulations for companies to comply with harms rather than enhances our international competitiveness.

 

After nearly half a century of closer integration with the European economy, Britain is now locked into needlessly throwing up new barriers to trade with our closest neighbours. As the past few days has shown, the ports can quickly descend into chaos. Even if implementation of the deal is smooth – a big if – it will prove costly to the UK economy, with the Institute for Fiscal Studies estimating it will knock more than 2% off growth and see inflation climb to 3.5%. That means fewer good jobs, lower incomes and higher prices.

 

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On 12/24/2020 at 4:34 PM, China said:

At long last we have a Brexit deal – and it's as bad as you thought

 

The Brexit deal itself is nothing but thin gruel. It will make it much harder for Britain to sell services to EU countries, where we were once advantaged. Britons will lose their right to freely travel, work and settle in other European countries. While there will be no tariffs or restrictions on the quantity of goods that can be sold, British exports will for the first time in decades face checks on their origins and compliance with EU regulations...

 

...After nearly half a century of closer integration with the European economy, Britain is now locked into needlessly throwing up new barriers to trade with our closest neighbours. As the past few days has shown, the ports can quickly descend into chaos. Even if implementation of the deal is smooth – a big if – it will prove costly to the UK economy, with the Institute for Fiscal Studies estimating it will knock more than 2% off growth and see inflation climb to 3.5%. That means fewer good jobs, lower incomes and higher prices.

 

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Well, that’s certainly encouraging. I was thinking they essentially got the barriers to immigration without giving up much on the trade side. Hopefully they get schtupped on the economic consequences. 

 

And lest any of our folks across the pond think I have it in for them, that’s not the case. Consistent with my hopes for so-called real ‘Muricuns to suffer as a result of Tя☭mp’s trade and other policies, I’m hoping most of the fallout primarily hits the class of Britons that voted for Brexit.

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Exclusive: 'It's a catastrophe': Scottish fishermen halt exports due to Brexit red tape

 

Many Scottish fishermen have halted exports to European Union markets after post-Brexit bureaucracy shattered the system that used to put fresh langoustines and scallops in French shops just over a day after they were harvested.

 

Fishing exporters told Reuters their businesses could become unviable after the introduction of health certificates, customs declarations and other paperwork added days to their delivery times and hundreds of pounds to the cost of each load.

 

Business owners said they had tried to send small deliveries to France and Spain to test the new systems this week but it was taking five hours to secure a health certificate in Scotland, a document which is required to apply for other customs paperwork.

 

In the first working week after Brexit, one-day deliveries were taking three or more days - if they got through at all.

 

Owners could not say for sure where their valuable cargo was. A trade group told boats to stop fishing exported stocks.

 

“Our customers are pulling out,” Santiago Buesa of SB Fish told Reuters. “We are fresh product and the customers expect to have it fresh, so they’re not buying. It’s a catastrophe.”

 

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Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told

 

British businesses that export to the continent are being encouraged by government trade advisers to set up separate companies inside the EU in order to get around extra charges, paperwork and taxes resulting from Brexit, the Observer can reveal.

 

In an extraordinary twist to the Brexit saga, UK small businesses are being told by advisers working for the Department for International Trade (DIT) that the best way to circumvent border issues and VAT problems that have been piling up since 1 January is to register new firms within the EU single market, from where they can distribute their goods far more freely.

 

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Ministers refusing to open talks to solve Brexit exports crisis to make EU feel ‘pain’, industry leader says

 

Ministers are refusing to open talks to solve the exporting crisis caused by Brexit until the EU feels “some of the pain”, an industry leader says.

 

The delayed introduction of UK border controls in April is “another potential car crash”, the head of Scottish Food and Drink warned – telling MPs: “The clock is ticking.”

 

But, James Withers added: “The mood music I pick up from government officials is that there is a reluctance to engage with the EU until April.

 

“In other words, that they need to feel some of the pain that we are feeling before it will come to the table.

 

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Brexit Britain could unite with Canada and Australia to create ‘third biggest military'

 

This would give Britons, excluding those with a serious criminal conviction, the right to live and work in the other three CANZAK countries and vice-versa.

 

The four powers would also agree to cooperate more closely foreign policy and defence.

 

Toronto based James Skinner is the founder and chief executive of CANZUK International, a group launched under a different name in 2015.

 

Speaking to Express.co.uk he argued the new association would immediately become the third most powerful military force in the world, behind only the United States and China.

 

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Brexit LIVE: Where's the fish, Boris? UK salmon producers aghast as 97% of catch 'lost'

 

The Scottish Salmon Producers Organisation (SSPO) said the Treasury figures for January underestimated foreign sales by much as 97 percent, meaning the extent of the problems for Scottish fishing exports post-Brexit may not be as serious as first thought. New post-Brexit rules came into force on January 1 with red-tape causing delays for some in the seafood sector who usually export to Europe.

 

Hamish MacDonnell, director of strategic engagement at the SSPO, told the Commons Scottish Affairs Committee the HMRC figures were "not just wrong, they were very, very wrong".

He said: "It is really difficult for you as a committee, or anybody else, to really assess the impact of Brexit when we don't have a proper baseline on the stats.

 

"We sent about 5,000 tonnes of salmon to Europe in January - the Eurostat system, which records how much Scottish salmon went into the EU, records about 4,700 tonnes going in.

"The HMRC figures say we only sent 80 tonnes - which is only 3 percent of the amount that actually went there."

 

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'Stop buying from EU superstate!' Britons furious as Brussels desperate to sabotage Brexit

 

BREXIT Minister Lord David Frost has warned EU insiders are sabotaging the UK's success for the sake of proving Britons' decision to leave the bloc was a mistake. And Britons have lashed out at the bloc urging people to stop buying from the "EU superstate".
 

The UK Brexit chief claimed that while the British Government wishes a successful future on EU member states, Brussels is adamant to prove Brexit should have been avoided by hijacking Britain's future as an independent nation.

 

Speaking to the Spectator, Lord Frost urged the EU to solve "arguments about trade" in a "grown-up way", drawing comparisons to the US-Canada model.

 

He said: "I don’t think it’s incompatible with friendly relations between sovereign equals to have arguments about trade and resolve them in a grown-up way…

 

"There definitely are US-Canada trade disputes and life goes on. And I don’t see why it shouldn’t be like that."

 

Now, Britons have hit back at the EU urging people to "stop buying any goods" from the bloc.

 

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