JMS Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) I just don't see why driving a gas powered car is a negative. I think electric cars are better if they are better cars.. And at least according to road and track; Tesla's cars are the best cars they've ever reviewed.. not the best electric cars.. the best cars. That doesn't necessarily make it so for every consumer.. but I do think today, unlike yesterday, every consumer should take a hard look and consider the electric option before deciding on the best solution for themselves. I think having that option along with all the innovation occurring in the auto industry largely due to electric and hybrid cars is something everybody can appreciate even folks who decide gasoline for whatever reason still makes the most sense for them. Edited April 3, 2016 by JMS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 So gasoline a few years back was what 4.50 - 5.00 a gallon nearly. Today it's what 1.50 - 2.00 a gallon. Doesn't $0.10 for the electrical equivalence of a gallon sound better?   sure sounds better to me, smells funny though.....is that methane generated electricity or BS I smell?  Electric rates must necessarily rise....and taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 sure sounds better to me, smells funny though.....is that methane generated electricity or BS I smell?  Electric rates must necessarily rise....and taxes  And yet we still come out significantly on top.  In particular when we are all taking advantage of the big nuclear reactor floating in the sky  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 And yet we still come out significantly on top.  In particular when we are all taking advantage of the big nuclear reactor floating in the sky  the one solar companies are going bankrupt exploiting....despite guaranteed rates and funding?  I look forward to Musk's next excuse/delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not all people. In my experience, there is a large number of people who own luxury cars but can't afford to fix or maintain them. I see these cars when they are 5-10 years old, sometimes 2nd owner. Those are the ones who buy them as a status symbol because they can't buy them new. I regularly talk to people who bought a 3 series BMW 2nd hand and can't pay the $500 it costs to get their drivers door to open correctly. I see this at my work all the time wih corvette owners lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Those damn horseless carriages.   I mean really, buggy whip makers, oat growers, **** sweepers my God, there's a whole damn industry built on horse drawn buggies and it's not going anywhere.  Too many people rely on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm still bitter over the flying cars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm still bitter over the flying cars We were spoiled by watching the Jetsons. Â That's the root of all this evil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 We were spoiled by watching the Jetsons.  That's the root of all this evil.  Tack on: Back to the Future, Among several others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I have a 3.5 ecoboost that I use to tow quite a bit, usually around 7000 lbs or so. I was thinking today about towing with an electric motor and how awesome that would be. Obviously there are too many limitations currently, but the amount of torque generated by an electric motor makes even the biggest diesels look like toys. I could see an entire transportation system switching to electric nevermind guys like me who tow for recreation And think how much better a country this would be without diesels belching soot and sulfur into the atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) if they mate fuel cells and supercapacitors ya might, otherwise ya need a leap in battery tech  many transport and heavy machinery are switching to NG, Edited April 4, 2016 by twa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 A leap in battery tech might not be too far away. Graphene seems to be promising in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 A leap in battery tech might not be too far away. Graphene seems to be promising in this regard. Â still limited by slow charge rate and life cycle, super capacitor is more feasible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Any big leaps in any tech require we fool around with the tech that's not there yet. Â I'm tickled that we get to see this happening in real time. Â They'll get there with the batteries. Â The more demand and interest they can realize in the meantime, the more money and time can be spent getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 flying cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Patience. Â Elroy hasn't even been born yet. Â My money says he won't be rolling coal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 still limited by slow charge rate and life cycle, super capacitor is more feasible  Man, you must have been real fun in 1903  "Flying, puuhleeze. No way a human can get above 1000 feet in the air"  Or 1945  "Splitting atoms? What are we God?"  The '60s  "Go to the moon?!? The moon doesn't even exist!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm the one been telling ya about abiotic oil  Graphene certainly seems a game changer in fuel cells so far.  let go of the battery bro, bigger and better things are out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm the one been telling ya about abiotic oil Graphene certainly seems a game changer in fuel cells so far. let go of the battery bro, bigger and better things are out there Don't you have a personal stake in the gas auto industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 After reading this thread, I test drove a Chevy Volt this weekend. Nice ride. I've been wanting to put off buying a new car for another 3 years or so, but I don't want to miss out on the 7500 tax credit. There was still a 2015 model the salesman offered me 25% off, but I'm not sure how much I would miss the extra range of the 2016/7 models. Like SHF, there's a charging outlet in the parking lot where I work, so I might only have to plug in on weekends. Hmmmmmmm. Some of you remind me of the CEO of SAP back in the 90s, who was convinced the internet was just an American fad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Don't you have a personal stake in the gas auto industry?  Nope, I work on vehicles including electric now.  I'd rather do something else though....snake oil still seems to sell well  as a matter of fact I hate oil and my family branch divested from it long ago....if we hadn't I could drive a Telsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Nope, I work on vehicles including electric now. I'd rather do something else though....snake oil still seems to sell well as a matter of fact I hate oil and my family branch divested from it long ago....if we hadn't I could drive a Telsa Yah but there would be a ton less business for you with an electric vehicle correct? Especially a tesla. I just kind of figured that's why you are so sour on the idea, makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I figured it had to do more with his entire state's economy being tied to oil. Can you imagine the financial impact to the gulf coast states if petroleum usage was drastically eliminated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) Yah but there would be a ton less business for you with an electric vehicle correct? Especially a tesla. I just kind of figured that's why you are so sour on the idea, makes sense  Why would there be less business?  The auto driving maybe, but I'm confident my customers or Telsa can screw that feature up I figured it had to do more with his entire state's economy being tied to oil. Can you imagine the financial impact to the gulf coast states if petroleum usage was drastically eliminated?  my state is rather diverse.....besides I'm about ready to move to escape the Yankee migration  add Cali is as tied to oil as Texas, we make the plastic and such electric vehicles require...as well as electronics Edited April 4, 2016 by twa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Why would there be less business? The auto driving maybe, but I'm confident my customers or Telsa can screw that feature up my state is rather diverse.....besides I'm about ready to move to escape the Yankee migration add Cali is as tied to oil as Texas, we make the plastic and such electric vehicles require...as well as electronics Where are you moving? The Yankee migration is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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