FrFan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Tesla isn’t an Asian car brand??? Texas brand manufacturing models Y and 3 in China and California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, FrFan said: Texas brand manufacturing models Y and 3 in China and California. Still not an Asian brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Just wait. Every manufacturer is coming out with EVs. You’ll have plenty choices. Tesla really needs to redesign their cars. Most manufacturers redesign every 5-6 years. They just completely updated the model s/x. As far as updating design what would you change about the model 3/y? I say don’t mess with perfection. Some people have said they want a HUD or gage panel behind the steering wheel, so maybe they could add that as an option but I like the minimalist approach. They have added heating steering wheels, laminate glass (to lower road noise), matrix led headlights, and changed from USB-A style to USB-C style charging ports, as well as a few other changes incrementally that I am missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Still not an Asian brand. Never said it was, just pointing out that the most reliable cars are asian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, FrFan said: Never said it was, just pointing out that the most reliable cars are asian I don’t think that is what you were pointing out. Your link says Asian brands. They were wrong right off the bat. Makes me wonder what else they are wrong about/who is paying them…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I don’t think that is what you were pointing out. Your link says Asian brands. They were wrong right off the bat. Makes me wonder what else they are wrong about/who is paying them…. Sorry I don't understand you. In my link the article says (translated) "Tesla is the least reliable car brand". I said according to their datas asian cars are the most reliable cars. Tesla to absent after-sales subscribers (G. translated) https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2022-us-initial-quality-study-iqs "Tesla Motors officially included for the first time: Tesla Motors is included in the industry calculation for the first time, with a score of 226 PP100. However, because Tesla Motors does not allow J.D. Power access to owner information in the states where that permission is required by law, Tesla vehicles remain ineligible for award" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, FrFan said: Sorry I don't understand you. In my link the article says (translated) "Tesla is the least reliable car brand". I said according to their datas asian cars are the most reliable cars. Tesla to absent after-sales subscribers (G. translated) https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2022-us-initial-quality-study-iqs "Tesla Motors officially included for the first time: Tesla Motors is included in the industry calculation for the first time, with a score of 226 PP100. However, because Tesla Motors does not allow J.D. Power access to owner information in the states where that permission is required by law, Tesla vehicles remain ineligible for award" I read your link wrong. Tesla’s overall score of 40 still puts it above the average EV score of 34. The most frequent problems among electric vehicles usually have to do with their battery pack, charging system and drive motors.https://insideevs.com/news/622136/tesla-consumer-reports-reliability-2022/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 All this is why Tesla desperately needs a new CEO. Someone more focused on things like redesign, product improvement and not giving a **** about the dumbass cyber truck and needing **** to look "futuristic". The lack of a pick up truck is one of Tesla's biggest failures. They should've had one out 3 years ago. Easily could've had a small pickup and even made it somewhat unique looking. Wasting time with the ****ing robotaxi. https://electrek.co/2022/12/01/tesla-chief-designer-cybertruck-teases-upcoming-new-ev/ Quote von Holzhausen was asked about his favorite design at Tesla so far, and the designer said that it is “the one that’s coming,” but one that he “can’t talk about.” The next vehicle that Tesla is expected to unveil is its “robotaxi,” a new EV dedicated to self-driving and being used primarily as some kind of driverless Uber. Not much else is known about the vehicle, but CEO Elon Musk said that it will be “futuristic-looking.” von Holzhausen also said that he is excited about the Cybertruck’s radical design being on the road as it should create some interesting visuals. Tesla is expected to bring the Cybertruck to production in mid-2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Hersh said: All this is why Tesla desperately needs a new CEO. Someone more focused on things like redesign, product improvement and not giving a **** about the dumbass cyber truck and needing **** to look "futuristic". The lack of a pick up truck is one of Tesla's biggest failures. They should've had one out 3 years ago. Easily could've had a small pickup and even made it somewhat unique looking. Wasting time with the ****ing robotaxi. https://electrek.co/2022/12/01/tesla-chief-designer-cybertruck-teases-upcoming-new-ev/ Tesla is still supply constrained; there is more demand for their cars than they can supply, which is part of the reason used Tesla prices are so high. Maybe once they expand to appoint where they aren’t supply constrained they will focus on mass market demand like you are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 What Tesla is doing tonight is why I’m a fan and will remain one despite Musk being a dip****. They are having their Semi-truck launch and this is what people loved about this company. Love this product and hope it’s extremely successful 2 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Tesla is still supply constrained; there is more demand for their cars than they can supply, which is part of the reason used Tesla prices are so high. Maybe once they expand to appoint where they aren’t supply constrained they will focus on mass market demand like you are suggesting. it’s not that tough to put out designs for a simple pickup truck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hersh said: it’s not that tough to put out designs for a simple pickup truck. I know, but they didn’t. You should be asking why. It isn’t because Musk demanded plans for a metal Dorito. Not you specifically, but people who claim Musk isn’t responsible for his companies success while also blaim him for all their failures are incredulous. I think it could because they aren’t interested in competing with the f150 and a standard shaped pick up truck isn’t an efficient design for a low drag coefficient. It could also have been a marketing ploy with no plans to actually deliver the truck. It’s been 3-4 years and it is still vaporware. But it did generate tons of plublicity for the model y which launched right after Cybertruck was announced. Edited December 2, 2022 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I know, but they didn’t. You should be asking why. It isn’t because Musk demanded plans for a metal Dorito. Not you specifically, but people who claim Musk isn’t responsible for his companies success while also blaim him for all their failures are incredulous. I think it could because they aren’t interested in competing with the f150 and a standard shaped pick up truck isn’t an efficient design for a low drag coefficient. It could also have been a marketing ploy with no plans to actually deliver the truck. It’s been 3-4 years and it is still vaporware. But it did generate tons of plublicity for the model y which launched right after Cybertruck was announced. I credit Musk with the success of the company. It's just my feeling that they didn't go the standard pickup route because it is boring to them. I don't think they needed to compete with the F-150. Make a smaller pickup. In general, all auto-companies are going in the wrong direction with these giant vehicles. It's terrible for pedestrians, bikers, roads, the planet. I just believe Tesla is uniquely positioned to combat that market and trend if they wanted to. I am really excited about their semi program. The more EV semis on the road, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Quite a few folks at Miami Tesla this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 The Tesla semi is promising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) That's some suspect build quality Edited December 12, 2022 by Cooked Crack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Model Y and 3 have 7.5k credit if delivery taken before end of this year. hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Tesla Brings Back 'Boring' Round Steering Wheel Elon Nixed Tesla has come full circle with its new steering wheel, much to Elon Musk’s chagrin. The electric car company has begun allowing Model X and Model S customers to choose a traditional round steering wheel instead of a yoke steering wheel on its website, according to Electrek, which spotted the new option on Thursday. In 2021, Musk refused to offer a round steering wheel option because the yoke, similar to those used in race cars or planes and closer in form to two horizontal handles than a wheel, simply looked “way better,” he said. However, it appears that having Tesla’s stock in the toilet and customer discontent will make even the owner of Twitter change his mind. The company is also offering an olive branch to folks who bought the redesigned cars and were unhappy with the steering yoke. Beginning in March 2023, it will allow Model X and Model S owners to purchase a $700 wheel retrofit to replace their steering yoke with a round wheel. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) If you recently purchased a Model Y, congrats on getting screwed. Also, it’s kinda fugly and the interior is a rattletrap. Edited January 13 by TradeTheBeal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) On 1/6/2023 at 8:23 PM, China said: Tesla has come full circle with its new steering wheel, much to Elon Musk’s chagrin. KITT didn't have a steering wheel. Edited January 13 by Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 32 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Was waiting for this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 35 minutes ago, Larry said: KITT didn't have a steering wheel. 3 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: Was waiting for this I wonder if he’s kicking himself for scorning those that want electric cars in favor for those that think electric cars are inherently bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 The price also went up by about the same amount over the past year… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 16 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: The price also went up by about the same amount over the past year… With the EV credit. Good time to buy. as I said before I like Tesla cars but they had got way too overpriced. Debating a model 3 P or a y 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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