TheDoyler23 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Agreed. Guy "really wants to stay in Baltimore", but he turns down $150 mil to try to squeeze out maybe another 12% from another team. Okay, sure. Among full fledged fans of the Orioles, I think Davis and Boras have really misplayed their hand on this. The market hasn't developed for him and Cespedes for 5/100 is already a way better deal than Davis at 7/150. And it's not like Davis can sign a one year deal and try again. He's has about as good a year as he can in 15. Maybe he can show consistency on a 1 year deal, but that has never been his strong suit. So... Yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Welcome back Chris Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Welcome back Chris Davis. My phone just buzzed w the update! (Now sign Cespedes anyway!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'm interested to see the numbers but I'd love Cespedes as well. 7/161. My god that's a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 They gave him more money? Who were they bidding against? Nobody? That's aggravating. Ah well. Get that 'script filled and hit the warehouse a couple times, Crush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 7 yrs, $161M, no opt out, full NTC. WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not gonna lie. It was a big sigh of relief for me to see the MASN headline. I went from scorned lover to doing the happy dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I don't know if the NTC matters all that much. I think he would be a 10/5 guy after the 2016 season anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1. Kim/Pearce/ Reimold LF 2. Machado 3b 3. Jones CF 4. Davis 1b 5. Schoop 2b 6. Weiters C 7. Trumbo DH 8. Hardy SS 9. Alvarez/Pearce RF Let's get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 7 yrs, $161M, no opt out, full NTC. WOW That is brutal. It's good to see him stick around but who were the O's bidding against? There clearly wasn't a market for his skillset (Ian Desmond is experiencing the same thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'd still go after Cespedes. We need outfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I guess the lesson is you can never sign someone for less than the original offer ... so I suppose they should have started out much lower.  Orioles payroll is now north of 140m, when you factor in likely arbitration awards.  Its unlikely we see any more major signings.  Looks like we're starting the season with a AAA starting pitching rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Guys...42m of that is deferred. It's a GREAT deal for the team.   The Orioles have a seven year, $161 million contract with Chris Davis, but we now know that $42 million of that money is deferred. That changes the picture a lot and makes for a better deal for the Orioles.  Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 It's no coincidence that this deal coincided with the Cespedes offer. Fantastic job by the FO. Did I just say that? Thanks RA for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capcrunch98 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'm concerned about the starting pitching, but keeping O'Day, Wieters, and now Davis is something none of us could have realistically expected just a few months ago. Â Have to tip my hat to the front office (and Angelos!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 So what exactly does deferred money mean? Happy to have Davis back. Last season I was 1 of the few in this thread advocating bringing him back as a huge priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Glad he's back. Â Now he needs to produce. Â Otherwise, it will be bad. Â That's the nature of gigantic contracts. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Glad he's back.  Now he needs to produce.  Otherwise, it will be bad.  That's the nature of gigantic contracts.   That is some solid in depth analysis.  It's a good day to be an O's fan. I still say if one of the young kids is ready to go at first base, Davis can slide back into RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 So what exactly does deferred money mean? Happy to have Davis back. Last season I was 1 of the few in this thread advocating bringing him back as a huge priority. Â 17M per season for 7 years. After that, no matter where he is playing or if he is still playing, he gets 3.5 million every year for 9 years I think then 1 million per year for another 7 years or something. Basically, the O's are paying Davis money through 2037. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Haven't really had time to flesh out the contract but it sounds like a lot for a 30 year old player. Don't like the deal much atm. Do you think we will ever get a talented leadoff hitter? We are certainly lacking in pitching as well. Any promising youngsters on their way up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 That is some solid in depth analysis.  It's a good day to be an O's fan. I still say if one of the young kids is ready to go at first base, Davis can slide back into RF.  Paid too much.  He's gonna flop, bat .245 and strike out 200+ times.  I don't like the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Paid too much.  He's gonna flop, bat .245 and strike out 200+ times.  I don't like the value.  I would have been good if they had signed an outfield instead, but if he plays well for the next 3 years at least, that is the real (Machado) window. Plus, the deferred money is good cause it holds the payroll down.  I believe in the chemistry of this team and I think the Trumbo trade adds another 30 HRs the team lacked out of having a quality DH. Think of Cruz of 2014. This team is going to mash. Yes, they need better starting pitching and they don't have that prototype leadoff hitter, but they will score and they have a great bullpen. This team will be in it all year long.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Happy that Davis is back in the fold and this contract might be alright for the first few years but I shudder to think how it'll end up.  I don't want to resent Davis when he gets older.  Starting pitching is still a mess.  Hoping for bounceback seasons isn't a plan, it's...hope.  Vance Worley will most likely get starts for us and that's something to be upset about.    I would have been good if they had signed an outfield instead, but if he plays well for the next 3 years at least, that is the real (Machado) window. Plus, the deferred money is good cause it holds the payroll down.  I believe in the chemistry of this team and I think the Trumbo trade adds another 30 HRs the team lacked out of having a quality DH. Think of Cruz of 2014. This team is going to mash. Yes, they need better starting pitching and they don't have that prototype leadoff hitter, but they will score and they have a great bullpen. This team will be in it all year long.   Trumbo hasn't hit 30 homers since 2013.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Happy that Davis is back in the fold and this contract might be alright for the first few years but I shudder to think how it'll end up. Â I don't want to resent Davis when he gets older. Â Starting pitching is still a mess. Â Hoping for bounceback seasons isn't a plan, it's...hope. Â Vance Worley will most likely get starts for us and that's something to be upset about. Â Â Â Â Trumbo hasn't hit 30 homers since 2013. Â Â Are you aware that he will now be playing 81 games in Camden Yard? He will hit 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Are you aware that he will now be playing 81 games in Camden Yard? He will hit 30. Â 30 homers in 81 games? Â I'd be pretty happy with that. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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