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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Assorted Militia/SovCit news,(formerly Bundy thread)

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http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html

 

 

 

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The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 50 miles southeast of Burns for years.

The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers – militia and local citizens both – paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.

Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 150 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.

 

 

 

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Here's a link with some history of the Hammond ranchers that started this. 

 

 

http://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

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Wait...   I'm confused.

 

Some Ranchers set fire to a bunch of Federal land, then were charged for it.  But now the militia says that they shouldn't serve any time?

 

I must be missing a bunch here.

 

And I actually believe in militias, etc.   But what's the cause???

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Do I have this right?

 

2001: Guy and son kill some animals, illegally, on federal land.

Guy and son burn federal land to cover up said gaming violations.

Guy and son lie about where fire started to cover up arson.

 

2006: Son commits another arson on federal land (though this one seems less malicious than the 2001 one).

 

2012: Guy and son have trial for arson.

Between then and now they are found guilty and sentenced, and need to turn themselves in.

 

Now, there's a bunch of people opposing those guys having to turn themselves in, and they took over a federal facility and are holing up there?

 

 

Yeah, there's a line to avoid crossing on this kind of stuff.  They've definitely crossed it.  Starve them out, and get the indictments all typed up.  And if they want to be violent, well they should recognize that between their rhetoric and weapons, that doing anything will put them right up at the top of the use of force continuum.

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Looks like what set this off was that the father and son were supposed to both do a year or less, now its been changed to four years each. This isn't the way to address that, though. Father and son had nothing to do with this taking over the park and plan to report for jail time (at least that's what the article says). I, too, am waiting to see how the feds respond.

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Well, hopefully ends with a whole bunch of people being arrested, unharmed, and prosecuted.

Might take a while. But then, the Feds have lots of money.

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So armed men take over a building? Hopefully they don't get the Tamir Rice treatment

Isn't this something we call "terrorism?"

If we don't call shutting down malls and freeways, blocking ambulances, destroying businesses, burning cities and openly calling for attacking LEOs, "terrorism," why should we call this?

Wait... I'm confused.

Some Ranchers set fire to a bunch of Federal land, then were charged for it. But now the militia says that they shouldn't serve any time?

I must be missing a bunch here.

And I actually believe in militias, etc. But what's the cause???

They served time. Due to a clerical error, they did not serve the minimum required sentence. The government appealed and now the Bundys are claiming Double Jeopardy.

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Sounds like domestic terrorists and not just a protesting militia. Talk about sucking from the government teet, and they getting pissed when they are expecting to pay for what they take.

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Pretty plain from the quotes that these people are Sovereign Citizens.

Which means this will not end peacefully

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where is the sawing off Oregon giff?

 

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They served time. Due to a clerical error, they did not serve the minimum required sentence. The government appealed and now the Bundys are claiming Double Jeopardy.

What part of arguing the minimum sentence is unconstitutional, winning that argument at trial, having an appeals court over rule and reinstitute the 5 year minimum as the law says, and SCOTUS rising to hear the case is a 'clerical error'?

Wish the federal government would move in and take these guys down. If they fight, then shoot them. I don't think you can have this bull**** in a civilized society. People should not be allowed to grab guns and threaten the government this way. Especially when their complaint is over such bs.

But they won't because the public would cry if they did. On both sides, even those making jokes about the police shootings.

So these guys will get to be as disruptive as they want, just further encouraging them. Yay.

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What part of arguing the minimum sentence is unconstitutional, winning that argument at trial, having an appeals court over rule and reinstitute the 5 year minimum as the law says, and SCOTUS rising to hear the case is a 'clerical error'?

Wish the federal government would move in and take these guys down. If they fight, then shoot them. I don't think you can have this bull**** in a civilized society. People should not be allowed to grab guns and threaten the government this way. Especially when their complaint is over such bs.

But they won't because the public would cry if they did. On both sides, even those making jokes about the police shootings.

So these guys will get to be as disruptive as they want, just further encouraging them. Yay.

The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is to threaten the government.

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The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is to threaten the government.

So what part is the 'clerical error'?

This isn't about second amendment. This is about welfare ranchers being thugs by grabbing guns and challenging the federal government because they know the government is reluctant to do anything. They don't want the public backlash. Waco was not exactly a good moment.

So they get to act like this. They're petulant little ****s.

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The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is to threaten the government.

Yeah, but it also involves actually having a legitimate beef with the government.  It's not an excuse to petulantly react like a bunch of teenagers whose parents gave them a curfew.

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I feel like the far-right media machine may be doing a disservice to the welfare of the country. This episode is a perfect example of that.

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So what part is the 'clerical error'?

This isn't about second amendment. This is about welfare ranchers being thugs by grabbing guns and challenging the federal government because they know the government is reluctant to do anything. They don't want the public backlash. Waco was not exactly a good moment.

So they get to act like this. They're petulant little ****s.

The part where they served less time than the minimum

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The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is to threaten the government.

 

Aaand we're off . . . .

 

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The part where they served less time than the minimum

How so? It was part of their trial, they argued it was unconstitutional and won. They then lost in appeals and exhausted their options.

How is any of that a clerical error?

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The PacNW (& AK) has long been very "mainstream-social dropout" (myriad forms) friendly. That and the scenery are why I've remained regional.  :P

 

Someday I have to get the Sovereign Citizen Warrior (recently also converted from Baptist to Mormonism) I know to get an account on ES and post.  :lol:

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