twa Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 https://traveltips.usatoday.com/restrictions-passports-104434.html Quote Do you think getting a passport is your right as a U.S. citizen? Think again. A passport is an essential international document that both identifies you by name and photograph and affirms that you are a citizen of the United States. But you can get that essential document only if you jump through the official hoops including paying a substantial fee, and even then your right to get it is not absolute. Under U.S. law, the State Department must deny a passport to some individuals and has the discretion to deny a passport to many others. Your "Right" to a Passport A passport isn't like a birth certificate that comes into being without any affirmative action on your part. Anyone who has ever applied for a passport can testify to the complexity of the initial application process, which requires considerable documentation plus a personal appearance at a Passport Acceptance Center. The fee cannot be called negligible, nor is the result immediate. Unless you shell out additional fees, you'll have to wait four to six weeks to get your passport in the mail. Given this, it is difficult to argue that having a passport is a citizen's right. If your passport photo is too dark or you forget your check book, your application stalls. And even if you manage to get the application, documentation, photo and check done perfectly, you still may be denied a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, twa said: I stipulated the burden of proof should be on the govt. Then I think we're all in agreement that these denial of passport on mere suspicion is inappropriate. I would concede that for case where government proves fraud on the part of the parents, some type of corrective action with a visa/status (hopefully with path back to citizenship after appropriate steps) would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, bearrock said: Then I think we're all in agreement that these denial of passport on mere suspicion is inappropriate. I would concede that for case where government proves fraud on the part of the parents, some type of corrective action with a visa/status (hopefully with path back to citizenship after appropriate steps) would make sense. I certainly think the bar should be higher than mere suspicion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) He’s been studying in the U.S. legally for 7 years. Bank of America froze his account anyway The Trump Administration Doesn't See Latinos as Americans Edited August 31, 2018 by Rdskns2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 this admin has done a lot to let me know how bad illegal brown people are and how much bad illegal brown people are doing to make america bad it's a sophisticated message for a sophisticated comsumer it takes up 2 of steve miller's flash cards bad brown people! bad! go! go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 since it is ICE I would assume they are checking to see if immigrants(illegal and otherwise) voted illegally. as they have done before https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/nyregion/17voting.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: So basically, the only hope these kids have is if Indiana Jones finds his way into the mines and releases them........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 That's a gaslighting I can get behind. Maybe Trump will eventually believe it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 It's either this or we invade Central America. Ah, **** it, we'll probably invade Central America anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, FanboyOf91 said: It's either this or we invade Central America. Ah, **** it, we'll probably invade Central America anyway. We could save money by hiring illegals to do it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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