Riggo-toni Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: The GOP can't lose power; got to get rid of the minorities, who tend to vote more Democrat. This it entirely. Central American children fleeing cities that are statistically far more dangerous than Baghdad..."economic refugees - send them back!" Cubans who make their way to Florida..."Political victims, let them stay!" Edited February 17, 2017 by Riggo-toni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 hours ago, bearrock said: That's a rather bold and unargued statement. Selective enforcement and prosecution happens all the time. Do you think traffic laws are useless? Most state's domestic violence laws used to give arrest discretion to responding officer. Now, many require officers to arrest at least one or file a report why not (how many do you think write a report?). Which is better? Truth is considered bold these days I guess. You wrote one sentence or so in order to pay lip service to existing laws, but wrote an entire paragraph on why they shouldn't be enforced, which pretty much seems to be applicable to anybody but a violent criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bearrock Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, Zguy28 said: Truth is considered bold these days I guess. You wrote one sentence or so in order to pay lip service to existing laws, but wrote an entire paragraph on why they shouldn't be enforced, which pretty much seems to be applicable to anybody but a violent criminal. I think majority is in agreement that immigration system needs reform and that deporting everyone is not the answer. People disagree over the implementation, not the goal. You are papering over that fact with a blanket statement, followed with a tautological proclamation that what you said is the truth. In the process you ignored the fact that almost no law is enforced a hundred percent of the time. Even Trump recognized that fact when he said on response to question about DACA that they have to be treated with tremendous heart (whatever that actually means). When there is widespread agreement that the law and its application thereof is extremely flawed, dogmatically saying that the law is the law and it must be enforced, consequences be damned, adds nothing of value to the discussion. It might be consistent if your view is that the 12 to 18 million illegal immigrants should all be deported, but then compassion for people reads a lot like lip service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, bearrock said: When there is widespread agreement that the law and its application thereof is extremely flawed, dogmatically saying that the law is the law and it must be enforced, consequences be damned, adds nothing of value to the discussion. No offense What did your waffling add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, twa said: No offense What did your waffling add? TWA seal of disapproval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, bearrock said: TWA seal of disapproval? I didn't disapprove of either of ya'lls posts....I like waffles w/pecans btw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 16 hours ago, twa said: I like waffles w/pecans btw Funny, I figured you as more of a "pancake" kinda guy...you know, flat with little substance...but enough of 'em fill ya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Hey I love pancakes we gotta stop all this judgment of breakfast food it will rip us apart! Edited February 18, 2017 by Llevron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Ya'll are making me hungry, anyone want breakfast tacos? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'm trying to imagine a hardass US attorney forced to listen to the equivalent of a 4chan /pol/ commenter dictate trial strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The court has been pretty consistent in allowing border searches....why are phones different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, twa said: The court has been pretty consistent in allowing border searches....why are phones different? I cant he how it is different. Total waste of time. Picking battles would certainly help the opposition but they are obviously not going to do so. Thats how we got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 4 hours ago, visionary said: It would if illegals had the right to the 4th amendment. Authorities violate it daily with citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The Senator is talking about American citizens.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, visionary said: The Senator is talking about American citizens.... Would help if I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 7 hours ago, twa said: The court has been pretty consistent in allowing border searches....why are phones different? Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that people crossing international borders have always had reduced privacy rights. Same reason they're allowed to search your luggage. (Or to inquire about the reason for your travel, for that matter.) I think it's an offensive government overreach. A dictatorial abuse of power. (And a stupid one. Seriously? You think terrorists are going to leave incriminating information in their cell phones, and that Joe Border Patrol is going to find it, in a few minutes search? It's not about fighting terrorism. It's about establishing dominance.) But I don't think it's unconstitutional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Story on NPR, as I was driving home from work, just now. Lots of anecdotal evidence, (but not much actual statistical support), that supposedly immigrant advocacy groups are reporting a huge surge in green card holders and similar people wanting to become citizens, based on fear that Trump is going to take away their green cards and deport them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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