jbooma Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 From the Maske chat: San Diego, Calif.: I am disgusted with the Redskins blocking, but what makes me more mad is to see Samuels rush to pick up Hasselbeck and fix his jersey(for his one pass in the Cowgirls game) but when Ramsey gets creamed (more often than not from Samuels side) NO ONE helps him up even when Ramsey threw that touchdown to Jacobs, it was up to Ramsey to pick himself up. Why is that? If the o-line respected Ramsey a little more and care whether he gets killed, would that help to stop the beating and bleeding of the Skins. Mark Maske: I've heard that mentioned by other people as well. It's been noticed inside the building as well as outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Maybe Samuels thought to himself "if this guy goes down too, we are in serious trouble. I better pick him up and prop him up if I have to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Kyriacou Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Cut every one of their fat fu(king a$$es. They should fu(king love Ramsey as he has yet to call these slobs out in public. If this is actually the case they should be run out of fu(king town. Ramsey may hold on to the ball a bit long at times, but only for being courageous and attempting to make a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman56 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I'll be watching again this week to see who, if anyone, helps Patrick up after a big hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 Think about if Patrick continues to hold on the ball way to long and is calling the wrong plays at the line, he is making the line look worse then they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Kyriacou Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma he is making the line look worse then they are. Is that really possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I keep hearing this stated, but honestly I've never noticed them not helping him up? If its actually happening, I'm guessing that they are SO impressed by Ramsey's toughness, it just doesn't seem like needs or wants any help getting up? I just can't imagine any of the Redskins a) not liking Ramsey (he's been the consummate loyal teammate refusing to criticise any of his teammates, even when its been warranted, and he's a humble hardworking guy) or actively seeking to express their displeasure by not helping up after a sack. There are a lot of things I might believe about the Redskins right now. But problems between Ramsey and his O-Line just isn't one of them. This is a red herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 People keep saying they rushed to help Hasselback up, but the cameras never showed him being knocked down (unless I missed something). They showed him getting his jersey fixed but that's it. Did I miss something? As fas as the O line not likeing him; Jansen is his best friend on the team. Thomas is new, and the only one not getting him killed. Larry Moore probably works more with him than the other O lineman, I can't imagine him not likeing him. The other guard spot has been constantly changing. Then we have Chis Samuels. Whether he likes him or not, I don't know but if he doesn't like Ramsey then you should say that him by himself doesn't, not the whole o line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morning Wood Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Maybe they're just too tired from picking their own fat asses up off the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 That is not the case. I've heard on many occasions that the offensive line and Ramsey eat together. I went to Jaspers near FedEx field and saw the offensive line and Ramsey eating together. This just is not the case and they helped Hasselback up because he is new to the team. Give it a rest and lets put the Rumors to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 From the Washington Times Nov. 4 Finally, a reader asks why he didn't see teammates picking Patrick up off the turf in a recent game. It's hard to speak on that. Any time somebody's around somebody who got knocked down — no matter who it is — we always help somebody up. A lot of times when Patrick gets knocked down, I may still be 10 yards away. Helping guys up is part of being that cohesive unit that we want to be. Thanks again for the e-mails at jansencolumn@cs.com. See you next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I think it's like Weenie Collinsworth said: If the offensive linemen helped Patrick up every time he got knocked down, they'd be tired out by the second quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Monk81 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Always easy to blame everyone else and i think this is where the O-line is. PR has been killed all year and has not complained about the line. He has taken the blame himself. If the O-line does not like then then tough crap. They need to do their job even if PR is making mistakes. I find it hard to beleive the PR is responsible completely for the skins o-line looking bad The problem with the O-line and the majority of the team is that they are not doing their jobs. Starting to wish PR would leave the skins before he befalls the same fate as every other QB who woudl be considered a nice guy. Think about it since Kilmer the two most popular QB's have been Joe T and Sonny. Both guys are absolute pricks with a captial P. Now the QBs that have been nice guys and team players that have been run off by the DC media, FO and so called redskin fans, Mark Rypen, Brad Johnson, heath Shular(this kid was doomed the day he was drafted by the skins), Doug Willaims, and now PR is going to be added to the list. Shame they do not tell you that if you are a QB and drafted by the skins that you better have thick skins or be a prick, otherwise you are not going to survive. I cannot think of a more pressure filled sports postion the being a Qb for the skins and even more so a rookie Qb. Throw in the media, fans, and FO, now adding coaching crap PR is doomed unless something changes fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by Skins24 Larry Moore probably works more with him than the other O lineman, I can't imagine him not likeing him. Yes, plus as QB, Ramsey touches Larry Moore's @$$ before the snap of the ball on almost every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Yeah. See, now there's a certain amount of trust that just has to go along with that. Much ado about nothing I think. Even though Maske says it has been noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Tar Hog got it right. The notion of the O-line not liking Ramsey, and inferring so because they helped Tim Hasselback with his shoulder pads on one play, is stupid and a NON-Issue. Patrick Ramsey is Jon Jansen's best friend on the team, according to Jansen himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by TK421Band Maybe they're just too tired from picking their own fat asses up off the ground? :rotflmao: Nice TK....you might have a point there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy-the-Greek Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 What really pisses me off is they don't seem to take the hits on Patrick personally. I remember Tre Johnson wanting to beat the hell out of a guy who hit Brad. He even got a penalty on the play if memory serves me right. That was a guy who took it to heart when his qb got hit. I also remember the old hogs used to get pissed at LT and on one play Warren and Jacoby double teamed him and planted his arse. Now that was the essence of team work and protecting your qb and sending a message. If you hurt our qb we will find you and make you pay. Where the hell is the killer instinct of this line? I don't care what Jansen or the other guys say. There actions speak very clearly. They are playing like a bunch of pansies arse bone smugglers. Where is that killer instinct from anyone on offense? Why didn't Gardner go looking for Williams last week? He is the biggest strongest wr we have. Why didn't he take it personally and go lay some wood on him? If it were me on the very next play after that one hit I would have told Pat in the huddle I am going to break off my route and knock his arse out. This team has no heart. I hate to admit it but it had more heart when Norv was the HC and that doesn't say to much. :doh: Pat better go talk to some guys from Loyds of London but I bet they wouldn't even insure him.:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by Dan T. Tar Hog got it right. The notion of the O-line not liking Ramsey, and inferring so because they helped Tim Hasselback with his shoulder pads on one play, is stupid and a NON-Issue. Patrick Ramsey is Jon Jansen's best friend on the team, according to Jansen himself. Dang straight. Hunting buddies do NOT turn on each other. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I was about to say jansen will not want ramsey to mistake him for deer when they go huntin And uh kilmer was hated not as much as theesman and after meeting sonny twice, I have to say he is cooler than a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 We are making ENTIRELY too much out of this. Supposition, inference and inuendo is all those that support this ridiculous notion. Enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by fish We are making ENTIRELY too much out of this. Supposition, inference and inuendo is all those that support this ridiculous notion. Enough already. Maybe. But what's interesting is that even Jansen doesn't deny it or denounce such suggestions in the same manner that you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I would have said it's a bunch of nothing, but if Maske said he has noticed something, that kind of has a strange vibe to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Well IF there is anything to it, and I doubt there is, most likely neither the OL, RB's, or TE's can look "The Rammer" in the eye after missing another block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma Think about if Patrick continues to hold on the ball way to long and is calling the wrong plays at the line, he is making the line look worse then they are. I'm so tired of hearing this crap!!! What about the Flea Flicker???? Was he even give time to set that up! Go back and watch the game again if you can. Half the time Samuels and the rest of the line are getting beat at the line and falling on their backs. There is no excuse for the way they act toward their QB, no matter what mistakes this young kid is making. Total, BS, jbooma. And I'm tired of hearing it! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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