ThomasRoane Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 Russell is a system Quarterback? What system is that? Watching this video here's what I see that the kid has. Elusiveness (He makes defenders look downright stupid at times)Robert is a straight line runner while RW can juke. Pocket Presence (He doesn't have to see pressure - he feels it.) Vision (His eyes are always working down field. They don't drop down when pressure comes) Extends the play (He's far better than RG III at extending the play)Robert dislocated his ankle rolling out with no one even near him. Accurate passer. (Great location - he throws to spots where his player has the best chance to make a play) Uses windows. (He's as good as Drew Brees at sliding to find a throwing lane) I personally think he's better than Robert in every area but arm strength. One major category though is availability. You can easily see RW playing for another 10 years. Robert seems to be one more hit away from moving to the booth to start his broadcasting career. Oh, one more thing. Ciara! Hands down he has the better looking gal. Yeah, Russell Wilson is a system QB alright. And that system is called winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 But Russ isn't smashing Ciara until marriage so he loses points on that Otherwise I agree wholeheartedly lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Oh, it's a poll? Well, yes,obviously I would do that trade. The denial we live in as redskins fans is possibly the worst in all of sports. We are still looking for a great qb. So are most teams, it's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes, it just seems none of us have been watching rg3 or kirk play for 3 years. Even 2012 was surrounded with doubt (it was a miracle). I would trade for damn near any established qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I have a hard time believing he would flourish in Grudens system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 But Russ isn't smashing Ciara until marriage so he loses points on that Otherwise I agree wholeheartedly lol Well, I'm also a Christian so he gets a big thumbs up for that in my book. But I'm not going to judge. What I like about him is he walks the walk. Have to admire him for that at least. I have a hard time believing he would flourish in Grudens system. Last year's system? No, I'd agree. But in fairness to Gruden he didn't have much to work with. People can't give Robert a pass because of a lack of talent on the O-line and then at the same time slam Gruden for not overcoming that. I think with the emphasis on a power game that Russ could thrive pretty well. His receiving corps would be a big improvement. RB's? No one is better than Beast mode but Morris is still a top ten RB I think. Let's not forget how bad the defensive secondary was last year. Ran by a coaching staff that Gruden inherited. Even on offense he didn't get to pick all of his staff. He was stuck with Foerster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 It's hard for me to fathom that many of my brethren would not Take RW over RGIII (HUGE fan of his-own signed jersey) & KC. Russell has intangibles that can't be taught. I pray that Robert suddenly gets that ability. The sad part, for me as a huge RGIII fan, is that these can't be taught. Manning(s), Brady, Aaron, Roethlisberger, Luck, Rivers, RW, and even Romo (not at their level though) have "it". Is it the team and stability? Coaching? Whatever it is, I hope we, and Robert discover it. It is a multi-layered issue as I see it. I will always hold out out hope for our team and Roberts developmant. I would be dishonest if I said I did not see a huge difference between him and RW. It is the truth I see. The sad part is our organization did him no favors, at all. The ship may slowly right itself and I hope Robert is a part of that. The question was would I trade RGIII for RW? Absolutely. RGIII & Kirk (career backup imho) for RW? Absolutefrigginglutely. Being honest. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Well, I'm also a Christian so he gets a big thumbs up for that in my book. But I'm not going to judge. What I like about him is he walks the walk. Have to admire him for that at. I was just messing bro. I respect it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 I was just messing bro. I respect it too. LOL I may be a Christian but I'm not blind. Man she's one very attractive woman! That's another plus for RW. His ability to persevere. When it comes to temptation he must have Superman's nerves of steel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobert Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 No thank you....Fell into perfect situation IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Would you trade Dan Snyder for Paul Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 How so? You really believe Jordy/Cobb is really that much better than Garcon/Djax? I don't. Rodgers wouldn't skip a beat on his 30PPG average if he came here. In fact he may like DJax even more on the deep ball than he does Nelson. No. I don't either. It was meant to be a joke. Receiving corpses.... dead right.... picture of a zombie player. it wasn't exactly subtle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 Would you trade Dan Snyder for Paul Allen? Hmm, at first I thought YES!! But what if Allen wants to change the team name? Standing by the Redskins name is Danny's saving grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I dunno man. I think the QB pretty much reveals himself to be what he is. Peyton was on some weaker rosters. Trent Dilfer was on some great rosters. Nobody ever confused their abilities. It's not like the current Colts are so much more talented than we are. Now, if you want to say that Robert would be better if he had been drafted by the Colts and Luck would be worse if he had been drafted by the Redskins, I'd agree with that. More because of the organization than the rest of the roster though. PLENTY of QBs have snagged starting gigs because they looked good on good rosters. Matt Flynn and Matt Cassell come right to mind as recent examples. QBs, like many other positions, look great in certain systems and on certain rosters, but that doesn't necessarily mean they've revealed themselves. There are teams even Brady and Peyton would struggle on. It's a team sport. Peyton had some bad defenses. He had Marvin Harrison for years and set records with him and the had Edgerrin James. Peyton also had Reggie Wayne and continued to have him when the run game started to fade when James left, but by that point Peyton was so engrained as elite that he could overcome weaknesses elsewhere. That's a tall order for any young QB. Peyton in year 3 couldn't have overcome what he could later on. Seriously, the current Colts ARE that much more talented than we have been, and better coached. They didn't have Haslett, boom, there's a major deficit right there. They still have Reggie Wayne, they have TY Hilton, Dwayne Allen, and before they drafted Luck they had been spending draft picks and using free agency to bolster their OL. 1st and 2nd round picks went OL in 2011, and past 3 drafts they've used a 2, 3, and 4 on OL. Meanwhile we were letting Chester and Polumbus be the right side of our OL. Defense Colts have been points allowed 21st, 9th, 19th since drafting Luck. Redskins have been 22, 30, 29, and that's without even getting into our historically bad ST unit, whereas Colts have had Hilton and others tearing it up on returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 RG3 and Cousins for Wilson? Seattle would laugh in our face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Hmm, at first I thought YES!! But what if Allen wants to change the team name? Standing by the Redskins name is Danny's saving grace. Personally I'd take a name change if it meant getting rid of Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Am I the only one that is confused at the following: 1] How and why this tread was started. 2] How it has survived 3 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Am I the only one that is confused at the following: 1] How and why this tread was started. 2] How it has survived 3 pages. It's just the RG3OCD thread in disguise. You have to keep your eye on him. Always scheming, lurking, trying to escape from his confinement... he is very clever. Do not give place to the RG3OCD thread. Your adversary will strive to influence your mind, and irritate your spirit; watch and pray that he may not get any place in you, or ascendancy over you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 It's an obvious yes. Which is why Seattle would never, ever do the trade. But of course you do it if you are Washington. Anyone who says no shouldn't be making personnel decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theTruthTeller Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Am I the only one that is confused at the following: 1] How and why this tread was started. 2] How it has survived 3 pages. Answers: 1) Because nothing interesting was happening 3 days ago 2) Because nothing interesting has happened in the last three days I, for one, am in for the annual righteous indignation over outdated preseason power rankings (I used 5/1 as a cut-off): SI - MMQB 6/30 - (1) Ravens, (25) Skins This one is pretty funny. SBN - Compilation 5/13 - (1) Seahawks, (30) Skins A lot of the rankings are pretty old NFL.com 5/15 - (1) NE, (28) Skins AZ Central 6/29 - (1) Colts, (29) Skins ESPN 5/8 - (1) Seahawks, (27) Skins CBSSports 5/5 - (1) NE, (32) Skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 Am I the only one that is confused at the following: 1] How and why this tread was started. 2] How it has survived 3 pages. I started this thread because I remember how McGloughan gushed over Wilson in press conferences and talk shows right after the Redskins signed him to be GM. He talked about how Russell Wilson had the "it" factor. So, with Seattle balking on paying him there is a reasonable expectation that Scot M might inquire about it. After all, he didn't draft RG III or Cousins; he owes them nothing. He did however push to draft Wilson at Seattle. And of course he was going to say good things about Robert and Kirk. He's too smart to devalue a potential trade asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 It's an obvious yes. Which is why Seattle would never, ever do the trade. But of course you do it if you are Washington. Anyone who says no shouldn't be making personnel decisions. Or they can see the obvious differences in the two offenses and how one caters to the QB and the other doesn't. There's a very good chance Russell would struggle here. He's more of a sandlot QB than a rhythm and timing QB. I'm telling you he would struggle mightily in this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Or they can see the obvious differences in the two offenses and how one caters to the QB and the other doesn't. There's a very good chance Russell would struggle here. He's more of a sandlot QB than a rhythm and timing QB. I'm telling you he would struggle mightily in this system. I dunno Taylor. RW (the last play, or close, of the SB notwithstanding) just seems to make good decisions...but you made me think. WE are our own worst enemy here. Coach plays Robert, when it is obvious to the ENTIRE world he is badly injured, and just compounds it horrifically. Robert/coach/commercialism rushes him back for week 1 when clearly he is not ready. The next year a new coach who, just as you said, does not cater to Robert or even use his strengths to our advantage; then he has a fluky injury. Then coach makes sure to destroy any confidence he has (had), and calls him out publicly on occasion. Meanwhile, RW, Luck, Romo, Manning(s), Aaron, Brady, insert highly ranked QB here, ALL have steady coaching, the same offensive philosophy, and just remain steady. we are all over the board; up, down, all around, and anything but constancy or a semblance of steadiness. Let's review the last 10 Superbowl champions; Pats, Seahawks, Ravens, Giants, Packers, Saints, Steelers, Giants, Colts, and Steelers. Does anyone see a common thread there? I think it's abundantly clear. Robert, more than anything else, is a victim of our organization and that is probably the saddest part. To me Gruden is the one who has to improve the most this year. Anyway....got sidetracked....RW is ahead of Robert, in my eyes, BUT I believe, deep inside, we, the Redskins, created what RGIII is now. The onus is on us to create a better stable organization. We our own worst enemy, as I said before. THAT has to change before anything gets better. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Would you trade Dan Snyder for Paul Allen? I would trade Snyder for any other NFL owner. Or they can see the obvious differences in the two offenses and how one caters to the QB and the other doesn't. There's a very good chance Russell would struggle here. He's more of a sandlot QB than a rhythm and timing QB. I'm telling you he would struggle mightily in this system. He wouldnt put up those ghastly numbers Griffin did last season. I can just about guarantee you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I would trade Snyder for any other NFL owner. He wouldnt put up those ghastly numbers Griffin did last season. I can just about guarantee you that. Who said anything about Griffin? I'm talking about Wilson and how he would translate to this system and how I don't think it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrillMusic Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 RW throws a pic from the 1 yrd line in the SB. Kind of a joke Andrew Luck throws picks all the time, in fact no qb since the start of the 2012 season in the afc has more than the golden boy Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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