Some More Cops Who Need to Be Fired

[BornaSkinsFan83]

Something different than the other videos in this thread. I'm going to just put the link because it's disturbing.

SFW but be warned. It's blurred but someone loses their life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgsu08O9XX0

The first officer to respond is absolutely HORRIBLE here. She essentially put the other officer in a situation where he had to take someone's life and very obviously has absolutely zero business patrolling the streets with a gun. Unqualified, undertrained cops can be just as dangerous as dirty cops. She should be fired. Period.

Edited July 23, 2016 by BornaSkinsFan83

[Koolblue13]

Everyday another self entitled prick, with a badge and a gun, gets to do anything they want, without fear of consequence.

 

 

http://www.copblock.org/163302/cop-kills-5-year-olds-dog-at-birthday-party/

 

An Oklahoma family says a Wynnewood police officer unnecessarily shot and killed their five-year-old son’s dog, Opie, in front of him and other children at his birthday party.

 

According to police, the officer was attempting to serve a warrant on someone who had listed the address of Vickie Malone and her family as his last place of residence ten years ago. Malone said the cop never produced said warrant, even after Opie was dead.

The mother recalled that she had just taken her son Eli and his friends inside from where they had been playing to eat birthday cake and ice cream. She was about to serve it when a bang came from outside.

Malone said she and the other adults ran outside to see what was going on and found Opie near the fence that surrounds her yard “kicking and gasping for air.”

The officer claimed the three-year-old American Bulldog and Pit Bull mix was vicious and attacked him by coming around the corner of the house but video depicting the aftermath of the shooting showed the dead dog lying near the fence, not the house.

According to police chief Ken Moore, the officer said he tried to kick the dog off him and then used a high-powered rifle that he retrieved from his police vehicle to shoot it once.

He then apparently fired two more shots from the rifle in front of the children in order to put the animal out of its misery. He showed no remorse about the killing, and didn’t apologize, according to Malone.

Malone said the death of the animal could have easily been avoided by simply doing some fact checking on the warrant, and that her five-year-old son misses his pal.

Eli made a small wooden cross to mark where Opie is buried in the backyard and said it hurts to loose a friend that he used to have fun running around and playing tag with.

[Mr. Sinister]

#ShootDontShoot

[NoCalMike]

I have to wonder when cops shoot pets, is there more to it than whether they feel the animal is vicious and a threat?  Like, I am trying to understand the perspective of why dogs seem to get shot when they aren't posing a physical risk.  Is it maybe because they think the dog barking/yipping could possibly distract them from an actual criminal trying to blind side them so the shooting of the pet is to neutralize a potential diversion?  If this is the case I am not so sure why officers don't seem to show much remorse or even offer up a sympathetic explanation to the family in a lot of cases.  I have been in plenty of situations where you go to a relative or friend's house and the dog gets overly excited and the dog runs at you barking and/or nipping and I never once thought "omg I wish I had a gun so I could kill this thing"

 

And for a slightly different brand of cops who need to be fired?

 

http://www.inc.com/will-yakowicz/cops-still-raid-legal-california-cannabis-concentrate-companies.html 

 

 

 

The state is also gearing up to vote on legalizing recreational marijuana in November. This has left many with the impression that the authorities are making hay while the sun shines. "They are just trying to get as money from us while they still can. That's why it's called smash-and-grab," says Slatic. "The prosecutors do not give us their prosecutorial strategy but many people think Drug Task Forces have become addicted to the assets. Law enforcement knows we have trouble getting banking so during my raid they found $325,570 in cash in the safe and the cops were high-fiving each other."

[Larry]

Thought I'd put this here, since it seems to be the thread for discussing race and police shootings. 

 

PLOS One:  A Multi-Level Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings at the County-Level in the United States, 2011–2014

 

(a peer-reviewed study.) 

 

Abstract

 

A geographically-resolved, multi-level Bayesian model is used to analyze the data presented in the U.S. Police-Shooting Database (USPSD) in order to investigate the extent of racial bias in the shooting of American civilians by police officers in recent years. In contrast to previous work that relied on the FBI’s Supplemental Homicide Reports that were constructed from self-reported cases of police-involved homicide, this data set is less likely to be biased by police reporting practices. County-specific relative risk outcomes of being shot by police are estimated as a function of the interaction of: 1) whether suspects/civilians were armed or unarmed, and 2) the race/ethnicity of the suspects/civilians. The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. Finally, analysis of police shooting data as a function of county-level predictors suggests that racial bias in police shootings is most likely to emerge in police departments in larger metropolitan counties with low median incomes and a sizable portion of black residents, especially when there is high financial inequality in that county. There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.

 

 

Now, I confess that I can't even follow like half of the abstract.  Hopefully one of the rocket scientists of ES can explain things better, to us. 

[dfitzo53]

tl;dr: Unarmed blacks are shot at a higher rate than unarmed whites, with the discrepancies largest in urban areas with large black populations. It does not seem to be meaningfully tied to local crime rates by race.

[grego]

tl;dr: Unarmed blacks are shot at a higher rate than unarmed whites, with the discrepancies largest in urban areas with large black populations. It does not seem to be meaningfully tied to local crime rates by race.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0

More stats. Limited sample size. Take it fwiw

"Mr. Fryer defined this group to include encounters with suspects the police subsequently charged with serious offenses like attempting to murder an officer, or evading or resisting arrest. He also considered suspects shocked with Tasers.

Mr. Fryer found that in such situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot if the suspects were black. This estimate was not precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But in various models controlling for different factors and using different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites."

Edited July 29, 2016 by grego

[dfitzo53]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0

More stats. Limited sample size. Take it fwiw

"Mr. Fryer defined this group to include encounters with suspects the police subsequently charged with serious offenses like attempting to murder an officer, or evading or resisting arrest. He also considered suspects shocked with Tasers.

Mr. Fryer found that in such situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot if the suspects were black. This estimate was not precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But in various models controlling for different factors and using different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites."

To be clear I was just summarizing the abstract Larry posted.

I'll have to read your study too though.

[Gamebreaker]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the study Larry posted was a three year study of the United States and the the one grego posted is just for the city of Houston, correct?

[grego]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the study Larry posted was a three year study of the United States and the the one grego posted is just for the city of Houston, correct?

"Many readers asked about previous studies, in particular a paper published in PLOS ONE by Cody T. Ross. That paper, “A Multi-Level Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings at the County-Level in the United States, 2011–2014,” found that the chance of being black, unarmed and shot by the police was about 3.5 times the chance of being white, unarmed and shot by the police. It was based on a crowdsourced data set, the U.S. Police-Shooting Database, that includes some nonfatal shootings. (About two-thirds of the shootings in Mr. Fryer’s data set were nonfatal.)

The USPSD covers the entire country, but it is not comprehensive. It has information from a variety of departments on 16 civilians shot by the police in Houston and other parts of Harris County, Tex., from 2011 to 2014. Mr. Fryer’s data shows 177 shootings by the Houston Police Department in those years.

The questions the papers asked were different, particularly in Houston. As Mr. Ross wrote, “The USPSD does not have information on encounter rates between police and subjects according to ethnicity. As such, the data cannot speak to the relative risk of being shot by a police officer conditional on being encountered by police.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/upshot/roland-fryer-answers-reader-questions-about-his-police-force-study.html

A little confusing. This link tries to make it a little more clear.

[BornaSkinsFan83]

Wonder what would've happened if he didn't have the camera rolling. Edited August 2, 2016 by BornaSkinsFan83

[Ellis]

Man. That's messed up. No warrant? ****ty attitude?

You know those cops talked all kinds of trash after they left too.

[visionary]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/761602544368050177

BREAKING: Videos show Chicago officers firing at stolen car, handcuffing black suspect who later died.
12:39 PM

[visionary]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-shooting-paul-oneal-video-met-20160805-story.html

Video from cop shooting shows officer firing at fleeing car in neighborhood

 

Videos from the fatal shooting of teenager Paul O’Neal by Chicago police show officers firing into a car that was being driven away from them and, later, officers handcuffing O’Neal as he lay wounded behind a home.

 

Acting with uncharacteristic swiftness, Chicago officials on Friday released nine videos showing events leading up to the shooting of O'Neal, 18, last week.

 

The release came around 11 a.m. Friday, less than two hours after the head of the Chicago police oversight agency said the video footage was "shocking and disturbing" and that her heart goes out to the family of O’Neal.

 

The dead teen’s family was so distraught after viewing videos at the Independent Police Review Authority headquarters Friday morning that they left without making any public comment, their lawyer told reporters.

Edited August 5, 2016 by visionary

[BornaSkinsFan83]

Edit: here's the direct link to the video

NSFW language

https://vimeo.com/177637826

Actual video is at the bottom of the page...

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/chicago-cops-new-police-shooting-footage-of-black-man-so-disturbing-it-will-ignite-civil-unrest/

Chicago cops: New police shooting footage of black man so ‘disturbing’ it will ignite ‘civil unrest’

And of course...

The officer who shot O’Neal was equipped with a body camera, although there is apparently no footage from his perspective. Police are investigating whether he intentionally turned his camera off.

How in the world do you just spray bullets like that down a residential street in the middle of the day? Cops just as dangerous as the criminals

Edited August 5, 2016 by BornaSkinsFan83

[The 12th Commandment]

Seems like some cops haven't figured out that turning off your camera implies the same level of guilt with the public as a perp running away does to them.

[Mr. Sinister]

How in the world do you just spray bullets like that down a residential street in the middle of the day?

Gotta save the world

[BornaSkinsFan83]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/we-finally-found-out-what-will-get-a-cop-fired-and-you-wont-believe-what-it-is/

We finally found out what will get a cop fired — and you won’t believe what it is

Tyler Sammon, a 3-year member of the force, and officer Matt Spath are accused of intentionally chasing down an exhausted woodchuck — also known as a groundhog or a whistlepig — on a Troy golf course until it collapsed, and then running it over as horrified witnesses looked on.

Saying an investigation is ongoing, Police Chief Rick Fusco has suspended both officers — with pay — but said that is not the end of it.

“If in fact this alleged situation happened, I will be recommending they be terminated,” he said. “There is no room in any police agency for a person like this to be carrying a badge and a gun.”

#groundhoglivesmatter

Edited August 6, 2016 by BornaSkinsFan83

[visionary]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/justice-department-to-release-blistering-report-of-racial-bias-by-baltimore-police.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Quote

Justice Department to Release Blistering Report of Racial Bias by Baltimore Police

The Justice Department on Wednesday will release a blistering critique of racial discrimination by Baltimore’s police department, the latest example of the Obama administration’s aggressive push for police reforms in cities where young African-American men have died at the hands of law enforcement.

The long-awaited report, coming more than a year after Baltimore erupted into riots over the police-involved death of a 25-year-old black man, Freddie Gray, is sharply critical of city policies that encourage officers to charge people with minor crimes to inflate police statistics.

The report, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times, found that African-American residents were often stopped or arrested without legal justification.

To show how officers disproportionately stopped black pedestrians, the report cited the example of a black man in his mid-fifties who was stopped 30 times in less than four years. None of the stops led to a citation or criminal charge. Black residents, the report said, accounted for 95 percent of the 410 individuals stopped at least 10 times.

Eighty-two percent of the traffic stops were black drivers, the report said, who account for 60 percent of the driving-age population in the city.

Racial disparities were also apparent in criminal charges filed, the report said, particularly for discretionary offenses like trespassing, disorderly conduct or failure to obey.

 

 

Edited August 9, 2016 by visionary

[StillUnknown]

not shocked at all by that report, just confirms what I already knew to be true

they diagnosed it, now fix it

[SkinInsite]

http://www.winknews.com/2016/08/09/developing-pgpd-reports-incident-at-citizens-academy/

 

Gun safety ya'll 

[visionary]

 

 

[Mooka]

LAT: Man shot to death by L.A. County deputy was not a carjacking suspect, officials say

 

Quote

 

As Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies searched for Alexander, they found Thompson and mistook him for the carjacking suspect, shooting him dead.

The Sheriff’s Department initially characterized Thompson, 27, as a second suspect in the carjacking. But on Tuesday, sheriff’s officials corrected themselves, saying he had nothing to do with the crime and the assault on the deputies.

....

Thompson did not respond to commands to show his hands, to stand up or to put his hands behind his head, sheriff’s officials said. SWAT deputies arrived and repeated the commands, but Thompson remained motionless, lying on his side with his left hand underneath his head and his right hand under his midsection, Katz and Corina said.

Even when the SWAT deputies set off “flash-bang” explosives, Thompson was unresponsive. Only when he was hit with foam bullets did he rouse himself, pushing himself onto his feet and “bolting” toward an armored vehicle, Corina said.

Deputies at the scene reported that Thompson had his right hand at his waistband as he was running, Katz said.

 

 

Apparently this guy was mentally disabled and was passed out on someone's lawn. Poor guy, talk about the wrong place at the wrong time. 

Of course the initial story sounds completely different: City News: LA man identified as suspect killed in Compton deputy-involved shooting

 

 

 

[BornaSkinsFan83]

46 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

Rewatching The Wire with the GF (she's never seen it). I swear with everything that's happened in the real world it's like a new show. Really recommend others do the same. It absolutely nailed the whole police-community relationship aspect. With people like McNulty and Bunny preaching building relationships with folks and dip****s like Herc just interested in kicking ass. Such a tragic show in light of recent events.

[Destino]

It really does seem like police operate on a deeply flawed idea of how people respond to stress, pain, and fear.  Worse yet, they don't seem to account for differences involved in confronting mentally disabilities or illness nor those incapacitated by drugs are alcohol.  The entire response seems to be force compliance with fear and force.

I wonder how rooted police tactics are in tradition (read: bull****) and if any science is involved in determining which techniques are the most effective in certain scenarios.  The profession itself behaves as a brotherhood and is deeply respectful of tradition, it's not rare to see cop families.  It's important to note that police haven't suddenly become violent, they have been extremely violent for a long time, and continue to be.  I'd like to see someone examine the role of clinging to tradition plays in modern problems with police and law enforcement in general.  

If you haven't read up on the Cameron Todd Willingham case from Texas, it's a good read.  His guilt or innocence is of little consequence, the state has already put him to death and whatever conclusions we reach today aren't going to make him any less dead.  What is interesting is how flawed arson investigations were.  It was all bad science handed down from generation to generation with no real scholarship and study involved.  They literally believed patterns meant something they didn't and convicted people based on the expert testimony operating on these incorrect beliefs.