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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The Official "Marvel" Thread (Movies,Comics etc)

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59 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

My son was disappointed that Bucky didn't get the Shield -- after rewatching Winter Soldier and Civil War is is completly understandable, Falcon was right there the whole time and laid himself on the line for Cap.

To me the way it looks set up is Avengers based around Falcon Cap, Bucky, Ant-Man/Wasp/Pyms, Scarlet Witch plus Asguardians of the Galaxy with Thor plus Strange, plus Black Panther plus Captain Marvel plus Spiderman.

So much of this Phase was done around the conflict between Cap and Iron Man.... with multiple build-ups to it. I suppose they can replace Iron Man's brains with Wakanda's advancements.

Thinking of plots that were never fully closed -- Zimo is still alive, Hydra is still around and there may be a movie where they come back for Bucky -- the underground rumblings....

Rewatching some of the other movies, the villians all seemed to be mini Thanos'

There is also Shang-Chi and the upcoming Eternals movie.

 

Also there is the organization A.I.M. that was established in Iron Man 3. AIM and the unlocking of latent abilities can tie into the Eternals and Inhumans and possibly be tweaked to bring in the Fantastic Four and X-Men down the road.

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I think Bucky should have gotten the shield. Falcon is lame. Regardless, Falcon needs the serum right? A regular dude carrying caps shield can pretty easily be defeated right? 

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I think the multiple snaps makes sense to bring in the X-men, causing mutations several years down the road for many that came back. 

 

Also, the new Spider-Man has mysterio as some multi-verse traveling wizard so that could open the possibilities for characters from an altered Earth coming in. 

 

 

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Disney needs to be careful to keep the next stage from getting out of control.  There's a million different directions to go, doesn't mean they should pick all of them.

 

I'd rather see what they do with x-men then more avengers right now.  That and maximum carnage.

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Deadpool should stay separate imo. It just doesn’t fit into the mcu. 

 

They will have a 3-4 year stretch of movies without any X-men stuff. That will be where they rebuild the avengers cast with smaller personal stories. Spider-Man doing his thing. Black panther doing his in Wakanda etc. they shouldn’t be world ending threats. Get us to know these characters more and have that slow build again to the world ending stuff when they all have to work together. 

 

Id even pair up characters. Put Bucky back in Wakanda for BP2. Spider-Man FFH has Fury. Keep another character in the fold with the titular hero to play off and keep the universe going. 

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Not as in to Shang Chi and the Eternals, they feel like C Listers compared to the X Men and FF.

 

But, I do trust Marvel Studios.  I think they are absolutely good enough to turn those characters and stories into A Listers.  Asia is the MCUs last great frontier.

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I think the key to Marvel Studios' next ten year arc being as successful as it's first are the villains.  Some franchises, like Spiderman, have no shortage of great villains.  But some of Marvel's best villains have already been burned through: Loki, Ultron, Mandarin, Kingpin, Red Skull, etc.  And of course Thanos received a proper arc.

 

Annihilus and Dr Doom and Galactus don't work without the FF.  Namor is dodgy without them too.  Mole Man is silly and needs them too. 

 

The Sentinels, Magneto, Dark Phoenix, Sinister, and Apocalypse are all great but need the X Men to make sense.  Same for Onslaught.

 

So which classic Avengers villains are we left with?  Molecule Man is obscure.  Kang feels too much like Thanos.  MODOK would be pretty damn silly.  Enchantress Amora needs Thor for coherence and isn't a multi-movie villain plus they cannibalized her character to develop Hela.

 

Either they have to introduce the FF and their villains or else Norman Osborn is the only worthy villain left.

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2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

Not as in to Shang Chi and the Eternals, they feel like C Listers compared to the X Men and FF.

 

But, I do trust Marvel Studios.  I think they are absolutely good enough to turn those characters and stories into A Listers.  Asia is the MCUs last great frontier.

 

I'd they can make Ant-Man into one of the more intriguing and relatable Avengers, ghey can do anything. Hell to most of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's, even Iron Man (at least to me as a 90's kid) wasn't really at the forefront of mainstream superheroes at the time.

 

If they do anything with Deadpool, Is like it to be a Weapon X movie, teaming up with Wolverine.

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10 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

I think Bucky should have gotten the shield. Falcon is lame. Regardless, Falcon needs the serum right? A regular dude carrying caps shield can pretty easily be defeated right?

 

He never had the serum in the comics when he got the shield, he doesnt need it in the movies.  They're just doing what the source material previously did.

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2 minutes ago, justice98 said:

 

He never had the serum in the comics when he got the shield, he doesnt need it in the movies.  They're just doing what the source material previously did.

 

My point is that I think it is silly. It suspends belief enough that Cap’s shield works the way to does but now a regular human is going to wield that thing effectively? 

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I know this is not a MCU movie but I don't think starting a new thread is necessary...

 

Anybody excited for the upcoming Godzilla: King of the Monsters? I'm almost as amped for this as I was for Endgame.

 

(BTW- Marvel Comics was indeed the publisher of the Godzilla comic book.)

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On 5/12/2019 at 9:01 PM, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

My point is that I think it is silly. It suspends belief enough that Cap’s shield works the way to does but now a regular human is going to wield that thing effectively? 

 

We haven't seen him use it yet. He could very well just use it as just a shield and never master throwing it the way Steve did. There is actually a story arc in the comics where Sam struggled to fight with the shield, especially since he kept the wings and didn't know how to incorporate the two. 

 

IMO, I think they'd be better off pushing the X-Men and FF and letting the Avengers fall back a little. The current group is good, and deserves sequels to Black Panther and Captain Marvel, but the general audience will never accept them as the real Avengers, so it's better to let them be different and push actual, accurate, quality films that the X-Men and FF never got. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Gamebreaker said:

 

IMO, I think they'd be better off pushing the X-Men and FF and letting the Avengers fall back a little. The current group is good, and deserves sequels to Black Panther and Captain Marvel, but the general audience will never accept them as the real Avengers, so it's better to let them be different and push actual, accurate, quality films that the X-Men and FF never got. 

 

 

 

 

Could not agree more. Endgame was a huge climax and topping it will be a tall order. Let's move on to other things. Personally, I'd prefer Fantastic Four but only because we've seen a lot of X-Men already from Sony.

 

FF deserves to be done right for once. They could very easily build a story through 3 films that culminates in Galactus. I don't want him brought in right away. Maybe start with Doom or Namor (even though I think Namor might be just as well introduced in a Black Panther sequel. Wakanda vs. Atlantis would be very cool.)

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3 minutes ago, Chachie said:

Maybe start with Doom or Namor (even though I think Namor might be just as well introduced in a Black Panther sequel. Wakanda vs. Atlantis would be very cool.)

 

I was thinking they would do that with the Black Panther sequel as well. Looks like the foreshadowed it with Michonne(can't remember her MCU name) said they were investigating strange earthquake-like activity in the Atlantic Ocean. Maybe with Wakanda taking a more open role in the world, they'll find Atlantis and accidentally cause a confict. Namor and T'challa hate each other in the comics, so they have source material to draw from. 

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On 5/12/2019 at 10:57 AM, StillUnknown said:

I would be more cool with Falcon getting the shield if they had a better actor playing him. 

 

Seriously, name me a better African American actor than Anthony Mackie atm. He's one of the best. 

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Yeah I like Mackie. 

 

Honestly the worst actor out of everyone is easily Evans. Can't think of any decent movie he ever did outside of Snowpiercer 

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1 hour ago, Mournblade said:

 

Seriously, name me a better African American actor than Anthony Mackie atm. He's one of the best. 

 

Off the top of my head...

 

Marhershala Ali

Jeffrey Wright

Idris Elba

Michael B Jordan

Donald Glover

Chiwetal Ejiofor

Chadwick Boseman

Don Cheadle

Jamie Foxx

Will Smith

Terrence Howard

Daniel Kaluuya

 

Mackie stinks. I've never liked him. This guy's an avenger? His real name is Clarence. 

 

 

15 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

Yeah I like Mackie. 

 

Honestly the worst actor out of everyone is easily Evans. Can't think of any decent movie he ever did outside of Snowpiercer 

 

Yeah but Snowpiercer was so awesome he bought a lot of goodwill with me from that. He doesn't have to be a good actor to be Cap. He just has to be ridiculously handsome and read super lame lines. 

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4 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

Off the top of my head...

 

Marhershala Ali

Jeffrey Wright

Idris Elba

Michael B Jordan

Donald Glover

Chiwetal Ejiofor

Chadwick Boseman

Don Cheadle

Jamie Foxx

Will Smith

Terrence Howard

Daniel Kaluuya

 

Mackie stinks. I've never liked him. This guy's an avenger? His real name is Clarence. 

 

quite a few black actors from outside the states i'd put on the list over Mackie as well.

 

Only one on that list I'd remove is Howard, he's been slumping for a while now. Can't imagine the amount of alcohol he's consumed thinking about the money he lost losing the War Machine role.

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Just now, StillUnknown said:

Only one on that list I'd remove is Howard, he's been slumping for a while now. Can't imagine the amount of alcohol he's consumed thinking about the money he lost losing the War Machine role

 

Yeah, I put him because he seems to be be doing pretty well on a hit show Empire. I've seen him in some smaller stuff too and liked his chops. 

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22 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

Mackie stinks. I've never liked him. This guy's an avenger? His real name is Clarence. 

 

Utterly preposterous. Who would you rather have playing Falcon, Don Cheadle? John Boyega?

 

Mackie was great in Winter Soldier and he's been great in the other Avengers movies as well. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said:

Yeah I like Mackie. 

 

Honestly the worst actor out of everyone is easily Evans. Can't think of any decent movie he ever did outside of Snowpiercer 

 

I thought Chris Evans was good in a movie called Sunshine. Space flick. But yeah, he's pretty mediocre with not much range. Cap seems pretty easy to portray.

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