NoCalMike Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 At the start of the season we were hailing Spurrier for seemingly getting Ramsey way ahead of the curve in preperation. However after 8 full games, Ramsey's ability seems to be the only positive aspect, and that is something he surely already posessed. I am not sure how Spurrier can be considered a QB guru when for 4 straight games he has stood on the sideline and watched Ramsey get killed, yet refuse to modify anything to help keep Ramsey on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashae Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Being a QB guru has nothing to do with the OL, don't you know that? :doh: :doh: -s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted November 3, 2003 Author Share Posted November 3, 2003 umm ye but you'd think someone who takes pride in helping shape a great qb would like to call plays that help keep him alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 maybe PR is not as good as we thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAC Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Originally posted by airSkins96 maybe PR is not as good as we thought? I don't think that's it at all. If we give the guy a chance to throw the ball he will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Personally, I don't see any progress from Ramsey. He looks worse than he did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 the fact is he is not reading the blitz holding the ball to long and is playing like a deer looking into headlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonisredskins Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 This is a down right stupid post period!!! PR had no freaking time to throw the damn ball. Yes he's no Farve or Manning, he holds the ball a bit longer, but give him a damn break. He's still a rookie and he might have made something positive if the stupid line gave him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Hog Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 it seems to me as though some around here have run out of guys to blame, so Patrick is their last resort. To criticize Patrick Ramsey or to say that the guy is worse than last season is absolutely disgusting. I suppose we'd be better off with Rob Johnson or Tim Hasselbeck in there.........give me an f'n break and reconsider what you've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted November 3, 2003 Author Share Posted November 3, 2003 I don't think Ramsey is any of those negative things, and I didn't even start this thread to make it a Ramsey: Hero or Zero? thread. I just posed the question: Is Ramsey where is in terms of skill because of Spurrier's guidence, or has it been pretty much because he just has the natural raw talent and people might have overrated Spurrier's role in Ramsey's growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAC Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Originally posted by Canadian Hog it seems to me as though some around here have run out of guys to blame, so Patrick is their last resort. To criticize Patrick Ramsey or to say that the guy is worse than last season is absolutely disgusting. I suppose we'd be better off with Rob Johnson or Tim Hasselbeck in there.........give me an f'n break and reconsider what you've said. Yep... wouldn't surprise me if these fans run Ramsey out of Washington and he ends up being a perrenial Pro Bowler somewhere else. I even read on the board somewhere today where someone said Hasselbeck should be the starting QB next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 I watch the recap of the Sunday action every week and marvel at the time afforded to almost all the other QBs around the league. If PR had that time he would munch on defenses. Jeez he had a 89 rating in this game with less than no time to throw ... Time just aint on our side ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Hog Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 NoCalMike......my anger there wasn't directed to you by any means. I was referring to some others' responses in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstiGATOR Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Originally posted by airSkins96 maybe PR is not as good as we thought? I tried to warn people around here that run and shoot high school QBs with lots of yardage and low efficiency ratings had no record of in becoming a good Spurrier QB at UF. Every time there was an open battle the high efficiency guy won. Spurrier NEVER made a low efficiency QB into a better decision maker at UF, what he did was turn good decision makers in to tremendously productive QBs. So I had my doubts when the owner went out and picked the QB for his new coach. Signed a backup the coach did not want. Then cut the QB the coach wanted around. Certainly Ramsey could use better protection. There is not excuse for those very expensive tackles failing to pick up blitzes. On other teams when RBs fail to pick up blitzing safties, it is the fault of RB and they get benched. For some reason when Skins RBs fail to pick up the blitz, it is somehow a protection scheme problem. UF QB's were blitzed too. They often made those who blitz pay by throwing to a checkoff receiver and beating the man coverage deep. Those options or at least one of them must be available at this level too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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