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      In today's Divisional Debacle, the Defense under Greg Manusky in the first half, gave up 207 yards of offense (105 rushing/102 passing) and two touchdowns.  That said, they did manage a single INT on which the Offense actually managed to score a touchdown off of. They allowed 12 of 16 passes to be completed . 
       
      In the second half it was 107 yards given up (58 rushing//49 passing) a field goal and a touchdown. They traded their first half pick for a second half sack. However, Dallas completed all five of their pass attempts. 
       
      Don't read that thinking "Well it seems like they tightened up some in the 2nd half."  They didn't. They simply had about half the plays in the second half. 30 plays in the First and 18 in the Second.
       
      So far in two Divisional matchups, the Defense has faltered in the Second half. They start out like a house of fire for the first few drives until their opponents gradually make adjustments. This Defensive coaching staff fails make any adjustments, whether in game or at the very least at Halftime. They've given up over 30 points per game for a total of 63 points given up in two games. While the Bears are up next, the Pats await and they've put up over 70 points in two games. Yeah. Ok. They did shut out the Dolphins today which is looking like the NFL version of ... ahem... shooting fish in a barrel. 
       
      The frustrating thing is Manusky is the DC that the Front Office actively looked to replace during the off season without firing him. When you know they're looking to replace you, most people would make a concentrated effort to show an improvement. Yet Manusky's Defense still keeps acting like it's starring in Groundhog Day.
       
      In his post game presser, when asked directly about if any coaching changes would be made, Gruden said "No, I think after two games – you’re talking about playing two very good offensive football teams and two of the best offensive lines in pro football we just played back-to-back. That’s no excuse whatsoever, but I don’t think we need to hit the panic button yet. We just have to continue to focus on what we can do better to win. Get Jonathan [Allen] in here, get a couple of our corners back in here and let’s go back and strap it up against Chicago [Bears] next week and see what happens.” 
       
      Here's another frustrating thing. The defensive communication was an issue last season as well. Wasn't this supposed to have been worked on during OTA's and Training Camp? It's understandable that the rookies would still be on a learning curve, but NFL vets like Collins and DRC you'd think they would have down by the start of the season. 
       
      Gruden said they're a very talented group on Defense but that they weren't reaching them. When questioned as to why the coaching staff that has been in place for several years, wasn't reaching them, he defended the comment as them being a young defense. “We have some moving parts now. Landon Collins is a veteran guy but this is his first year, [Montez] Sweat’s in his first year, [Cole] Holcomb, it’s his first year, [Jon] Bostic is in his first year. We’re playing Dominique [Rodgers-Cromartie] at corner and this is Jimmy Moreland’s first year, so it’s not like we are the most experienced group. We feel like were very talented, but we`re still fighting through somethings. There are a lot of things to look forward to, without a doubt, but we do have to play better and strap it up and get back to work."

       
       
       

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NFL.com: Jeff Fisher Trolls Redskins During Coin Toss

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You are the best. Your team beat us

Now go back to your own board. Thanks

Oh don't be so hasty. I could look at that profile picture all day :-)

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So much for blaming Shanahan.   

 

i dont understand this. 

 

we can't blame mike why, exactly?

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All those picks and still can't fiish with a winning record

 

If I don't know anything else about professional football, I definitely understand first and foremost... The draft is an inexact science. There are no guarantees. On paper it definitely looks like we got rolled in that trade but quite frankly... I'm still not 100% confident any of the players that we would have drafted in lieu of Robert with those picks had the trade not been made would have been slam dunk starters or decent backups because of the current Redskins front office's track record with draft picks. With all that being said... This trade was still worth the risk IMO if we can get a coach in here competent enough to teach basic NFL quarterback fundamentals to a young developing player. 

 

The Rams put all their eggs in the Sam Bradford basket and where did that get them? I know this isn't a news flash but QB is the most important position on the field. They do the most to increase or decrease the chances of winning. Obviously right now it doesn't look like Robert was worth trading for but that's so easy to proclaim in hindsight. Most of the flip flopping turncoat skins fans who love Colt one week, Kirk the next and then chant R-G-3 at games when Kirk or Colt falter were singing Robert's praises at the end of the 2012 season.

 

Patience is a virtue. In the final analysis the Rams and the Skins both opted for a quick fix via trade when they could have opted to stand pat and be patient. The players the Rams took with those picks are all decent but none of them are a threat to be Hall of Famers at this point in their respective careers or a significant contributor at some point on a championship caliber team.

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It was funny. Very low bar he's set though. Yay, you beat the horribly run Redskins in a trade. Let me go play an autistic amputee in a game of 21

No winning season. No division title. No playoffs. No QB. By the time they find one they'll probably have to unload several of their apparent Hall of Fame players due to cap restrictions. Until they find one they'll be stuck in purgatory, yet still flexing their muscles over a lifeless corpse

Congrats tho

 

Come on Sinister, an autistic amputee would put up 10x the fight that this team has.

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Yeah, cause building a really strong team before finding a QB has never worked for any Super Bowl champion...unless you consider the defending super bowl champions.

While teams with great QBs have a better chance of competing for a Super Bowl year in and year out, how many made trades for those QBs similar to what the Redskins attempted? They only I can think of are when players forced the team that would have drafted them to trade them.

I said its a wash if they don't win. Same for us. Whether you start from back and go to front or other way around. If you don't win it all, it's a L.

I don't knock building a winner and acquiring a QB. And, as I stated, I would mortgage future for franchise QB. So far we failed, Rams TBD... But I feel strongly they won't.

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I said its a wash if they don't win. Same for us. Whether you start from back and go to front or other way around. If you don't win it all, it's a L.

I don't knock building a winner and acquiring a QB. And, as I stated, I would mortgage future for franchise QB. So far we failed, Rams TBD... But I feel strongly they won't.

 

The Rams are significantly closer to contending than the Redskins and they are in a much tougher division. Mortgaging the future for one player...I don't know instances where that has worked out for a team cause it takes a lot more than just a great QB to win a superbowl.

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Wasn't classless when you KNEW they were going to talk about the players the Rams had acquired from the trade. The skins have a bad habit of giving up picks for a single player. McNabb, RG3, didn't they give up an additional pick AND a HoF CB for Portis? Didn't they give up a draft pick for Brunell when he was going to be released? I mean, come on...

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In middle school, there was this fat kid named Jared. He was totally uncivilized and lacked any social skills. Despite his having no friends and no desirable qualities, he picked on George… the mildly retarded kid who was the only one fatter, less athletic, and less socialized than Jared.

 

The Rams are Jared.

The Redskins are George.

 

And then Jared grew up, lost a lot of weight, and became, along with Robert Griffin III, a spokesman for Subway.

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The Rams are significantly closer to contending than the Redskins and they are in a much tougher division. Mortgaging the future for one player...I don't know instances where that has worked out for a team cause it takes a lot more than just a great QB to win a superbowl.

It's probably fair to say 31 teams are significantly closer than Skins. But only 1 wins, and it ain't gonna be Rams. This year or next or foreseeable future.

The Skins were significantly closer in 2012, whoopdedamndo.

You don't know of any to this magnitude, because its unprecedented. Oh well, big gble, big loss.

But similarly with Eli, NYG ultimately did have to sacrifice some. Unfortunately, we couldn't bend rules and negotiate behind scenes with NFL to get our QB.

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If he won the trade then why does he feel the need to take shots at the Skins? Oh yeah, because that is the only thing he has won since being with the Rams.

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Redskins division titles-1 

 

Rams division titles - 0 

 

 

The defense rests...

 

Well played.  At this point the Redskins are looking like the victor in this trade.  All those players are mediocre except for maybe Ogletree...

 

The drafted a tackle that now plays guard hasn't been terrible.  I'm still happier with our roster than theirs.  Oh yay, their defense played great against two crappy teams!

 

Both teams passed on Luke Kuechly…which would be the player I would have sent out for the coin toss.

 

Not to mention the Rams drafted a guy playing guard for them with the number 2 pick instead of hitting on Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, Kelvin Benjamin, ODB...

 

Just my two cents, I have been furious at the RG3 trade but I never really looked at what the Rams ended up with.  I actually am changing my mind to say we have won this trade.

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If you take offense to this, you belong with those that want the name changed.

If you found this funny, you belong with those that want the name changed.

(Hmm, that was easy. And meaningless.)

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I can't even get angry about this. This organization sucks. I have really had it this time. Not another dime spent or emotional drop of energy spent until they start to do things the correct way. If that never happens for the remainder of my lifetime so be it. I grew up in the 80's and can always hang my hat on those years. Why anyone under the age of 30 roots for this team I'm sure I don't know. If you are local the Baltimore Ravens are much better in every way imaginable. Save yourself the headache and root for a real NFL team not this clown show.

 

The Ravens are by far the most boring team two watch play football in the league.  I hate that I have to watch their crappy boring games most weekends instead of games of the week and good match ups just because we are close in proximity.  

 

AFC North is some boring football straight up.  But the Ravens take the cake.

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Some day the Skins will be back on top.  Look how quickly the 49ers are failing now after 3 successful seasons. When we return to respectability then we need to remember what the Rams head coach pulled and then come up with a stunt that sends the return message to them.

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Loved it and I say that because Fisher did what 71,000 Skins fans should have done by not showing up to watch this clown fest yesterday. Getting really sick of hearing the boo hoo babies whining about Snyder and calling for boycotts to the games, and yet 71,000 of you were there yesterday. If you're going to support this crap product, then put a sock in it from when the final gun goes off on Sunday until around Thursday or Friday when those who are in Snyders back pocket wearing their burgundy and gold glasses start to feel hopeful that maybe we can notch our 4th win in week 13, only to be embarrassed and let down again. I live in California so I am not a season ticket holder, but I did not go to the Arizona game or the SF game because I back up what I say when I mean I am not supporting Dan Snyder any longer. Redskins fan yes, Dan Snyder fan hell no. Thumbs up to Fisher it's what all Skins fans should be doing....

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Fisher and Shannahan were TIGHT. I expect this to be maybe retribution for how Shanny was treated. You KNOW every headcoach out there is less than generous twords Dan...

 

Remember, Fisher spurned Cleavelands offer to give Shanny 1st dibs (Not sure it was a good thing for Mike but it WAS in friendship)

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Tom Loverro said it best.. The least interesting part of this team is their actual game play.  Everything else that happens prior to and after the last whistle has become more interesting (in a sadistic way).  They are a complete circus.

 

Other teams/fans/owners have little or no respect for what the Redskins are.  They are a joke and to be made fun of and mocked.

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Exactly. That's part of the reason he gets under my skin. He's hailed as this great coach and aside from the 'music city miracle' year his teams are always mediocre or worse.

 

fisher has done nothing since vince young left him

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Loved it and I say that because Fisher did what 71,000 Skins fans should have done by not showing up to watch this clown fest yesterday. Getting really sick of hearing the boo hoo babies whining about Snyder and calling for boycotts to the games, and yet 71,000 of you were there yesterday. If you're going to support this crap product, then put a sock in it from when the final gun goes off on Sunday until around Thursday or Friday when those who are in Snyders back pocket wearing their burgundy and gold glasses start to feel hopeful that maybe we can notch our 4th win in week 13, only to be embarrassed and let down again. I live in California so I am not a season ticket holder, but I did not go to the Arizona game or the SF game because I back up what I say when I mean I am not supporting Dan Snyder any longer. Redskins fan yes, Dan Snyder fan hell no. Thumbs up to Fisher it's what all Skins fans should be doing....

 

There is no way that there were 71k fans there yesterday. the numbers are either for tickets sold (not necessarily for those that showed) or were very over inflated.

fisher has done nothing since vince young left him

 

Funny that you mention that.  I am seeing more and more comparisons between Vince Young and RG3.

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I don't think you have to win the Superbowl to say you've won a trade or that it was successful. That line of thinking is pretty silly IMO. 

 

That said, I do understand people pointing out that the Rams haven't won anything since the trade. But I think it should also be pointed out that the highest pick we got from that trade was the second overall pick from the last draft, he's a rookie this season... so I think it's a little early even if your line of thinking is "if the Rams dont win a superbowl the trade is a wash."

 

Personally I think the Rams are in position to become a really good team if we can get the QB figured out or if Fisher would keep Bradford and he could stay healthy. I don't fault Fisher for not making the playoffs this year. I wouldn't be surprised if we finish 9-7 and that's not bad for the third year of a rebuild where your QB missed the entire year and even your second string QB was injured for a good 1/3 of the season. 

 

Sorry, I probably shouldn't be here after the Rams won.

It's OK, it's understandable that an LA Rams fan would gloat.

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