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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       

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NFL.com: Jeff Fisher Trolls Redskins During Coin Toss

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eat it you moustached son of a ****

 

karma ... 

 

"I love it when nobody says you have a chance to win. There is an 11-3 team and a team that is always 8-8," Arians said. "You figure it out." I was pretty sure no one could top Jeff Fisher's sending out six captains to face the Redskins move in terms of a head coach firing shots at another team, but Arians has somehow outdone himself.

 

"Everybody wanted to talk all that stuff about how great their defense is. I think they saw a good defense tonight, it was in red and white," Arians said. "We blocked them. I think they had been reading their press clippings way too much."

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24882109/bruce-arians-rips-people-for-picking-always-8-8-rams

 

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Hard to say.

 

We did at least get one good year out of the trade. Now, it was meant for long-term success, so you can definitely say we failed there.

 

For me, it's hard to say who really "won" this trade.

 

Here's the players the Rams received: DT Michael Brockers, CB Janoris Jenkins, RB Isaiah Pead, G Rokevious Watkins, LB Alec Ogletree, WR Stedman Bailey, RB Zac Stacy, OT Greg Robinson.

 

Pead has 75 career yards, Stacy has 19 carries the last 8 weeks, Bailey has 622 career yards, Watkins played in 4 games before being cut, Jenkins is a decent CB, Brockers is solid, Olgetree isn't bad, and Robinson is a rookie. Yes, they got some decent players on the team, but let's not act all those players they drafted are studs.

its not hard at all, the Rams won the trade by a lot.

They have guys that are still on their team and will be there for the next few years.

The guy we have is probably gone this April. WE lost.

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its not hard at all, the Rams won the trade by a lot.

They have guys that are still on their team and will be there for the next few years.

The guy we have is probably gone this April. WE lost.

 

That's great if they have players still on their team, but if they're contributing as much to a successful season as Griffin is right now, does that really mean they won?

 

To me, it's like a trade in fantasy football. Just because you're reciving more players in the trade, doesn't necessarily mean you won the trade. If the guys you traded for aren't making your team better, did you really win the trade?

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That's great if they have players still on their team, but if they're contributing as much to a successful season as Griffin is right now, does that really mean they won?

 

To me, it's like a trade in fantasy football. Just because you're reciving more players in the trade, doesn't necessarily mean you won the trade. If the guys you traded for aren't making your team better, did you really win the trade?

that Rams defense is disgusting and Jenkins, Ogletree, and Brockers are vital cogs in that. Lets be honest here. Jenkins is way more than solid. He is a damn good cornerback and better than any player we have on our roster.

Those guys are contributing much more than what RG3 is contributing to this team and will contribute more to the Rams in the future.

If you are sitting back and looking at the results of that trade and think its still a push, then you are so off the deep end that its not worth having a rational conversation with you. Its just not true. We lost the trade.

The Rams problem is they have a charlatan coach and no QB.

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That's great if they have players still on their team, but if they're contributing as much to a successful season as Griffin is right now, does that really mean they won?

 

To me, it's like a trade in fantasy football. Just because you're reciving more players in the trade, doesn't necessarily mean you won the trade. If the guys you traded for aren't making your team better, did you really win the trade?

we got a playoff appearance from it (if you want to know how great that was ... ask a Cowboy fan about thier recent playoff apperances)

 

head to head vs. the Rams ... at worst a wash

 

in general ... worst thing to happen to the Redskins in my memory ... a team that was (and continues to be) a talent void across the entire roster .... 4 potential starting players (at a minimum might have been able to pick up another day 1 or 2 pick since some of those were very high picks) traded for 1 QB who would start day 1, have no internship and with Grossman as his "veteran" mentor and an equally unproven and unprepared Cousins as back up.  Has nothing to do with Griffin ... just a felony stupid thing to do to a franchise that needed to rebuild ... and honestly Griffin as well

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Speaking of Jeff Fisher. Is there a more revered and respected coach that has never won anything in the NFL?

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that Rams defense is disgusting and Jenkins, Ogletree, and Brockers are vital cogs in that. Lets be honest here. Jenkins is way more than solid. He is a damn good cornerback and better than any player we have on our roster.

Those guys are contributing much more than what RG3 is contributing to this team and will contribute more to the Rams in the future.

If you are sitting back and looking at the results of that trade and think its still a push, then you are so off the deep end that its not worth having a rational conversation with you. Its just not true. We lost the trade.

The Rams problem is they have a charlatan coach and no QB.

 

Again, I don't see how it's clear we lost the trade.

 

Both teams made the trade hoping they would get better.

 

The Rams brought Fisher in in 2012. Since the trade, the Rams are 20-25-1. Yes, better our record over that time period, but no winning seasons. Yes, they have some nice players they acquired, but it hasn't led to the team getting any better. Sure, their defense is good, but they aren't getting results. All you heard about his how this trade was so great for the Rams, then where are the results?

 

I'm not trying to justify the trade on our end because the last 2 years have not made it look good for us. But after the 2012 season, just about everyone said that trade was worth it for us. We've at least had a little success since the deal, the Rams are basically the same team they were from before they made the deal.

 

This isn't like the Herschel Walker trade that enabled the Cowboys to embark on their dynasty run. None of those guys even have a Pro Bowl apperance.

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I'm not trying to justify the trade on our end because the last 2 years have not made it look good for us.

and it wont look good for us going into the future.

 

This isn't like the Herschel Walker trade that enabled the Cowboys to embark on their dynasty run. None of those guys even have a Pro Bowl apperance.

is this the scale we judge whether a team won a trade or not? Whether it turns into a Herschel Walker-like trade? Thats a ridiculous standard and shows that you are not able to have a rational discussion on this topic.

Again, RG3 will more than likely not be a player for this team anymore. The Rams defense is one of the best units in the NFL now and its because they got 3 starters from this trade.

The issue they have is a bad coach and terrible offense (Brian Schottenheimer is another of these Legacy hires that show they have no real ability to coach in this league. Sounds familiar.) but that team is talented and have a great foundation to build.

We have nothing.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa on the Jenkins talk.

He's been the most victimized guy on their D all year and this was highlighted last night by announcers... After he was beat on long ball by Floyd.

Rams are 6-10, 7-9 for the remaing life of this trade.

Nobody won. Frankly, I'd take RG3s potential over a bad franchise with a handful of above average players.

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Just went back and reread the article to make sure I didn't miss anything. It didn't explain what a coin toss was either. Since nobody can answer me, I assume I'm not the only one. I did find this wikipedia page which may be helpful for those who aren't familiar with the practice... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_flipping. I do have a few questions though that maybe somebody can answer.

1. Why do they call the eagle side 'Tails'? Seems like it would make a lot more sense just to call it 'Eagle'.

2. The article says I'm supposed to say what side it's going to land on while it's still in the air. That doesn't make any sense. I have no idea what side it's going to land on when it's in the air.

3. In the demonstration, it says land "on" but it's actually the opposite, right? Like it landed on it's head, you actually call Eagle.

4. What if it lands on it's edge? Tie?

 

How long have you been watching football? Heck, how long have you been living on planet earth? I feel like this post is made by someone living in a bizarro world without coins. This is something elementary school aged kids do to learn about probability.

 

It's like you've somehow managed to not watch a single Super Bowl, Championship game, or overtime game ever. They all make a point to show the coin toss.

 

I can't believe that this is the type of person I argue with on ES. This has changed everything for me.

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Vic Tafur @VicTafur

As much as I enjoyed Jeff Fisher showing up Washington with the RG3 draft picks last week, the karma gods did not. Win more, troll less.

Ding ding ding.

Their All World team tried their damndest to hand the Skins the game in the first half, then score a whopping 6 pts last night.

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