chipwhich Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Not sure where rape, murder or abuse fits into a discussion on if you cheated on your spouse at your bachelor party or not. I know the divorce rate is high in our country. I'm just saying, I've never understood why someone would feel the need to be "committed" and lead on another person while they are out "whoring" themselves to other men/women. Point being if "love" was such a wonderful thing there wouldn't be the divorce rate in this country or cheating or abuse or rape or murder. But glad you are one of the "good guys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mocountyskins Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I forgot I woulden't know because I'm Mr Clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 As opposed to rape? Murder? Abuse? Have you seen the divorce rate in this country? "Love" is exciting and new but lets not live in fairytale world. Yeah, but this story is about cheating at your bachelor party, probably with a whore. If love isn't still exciting a week or so before you get married, maybe best not to through with it. A divorce years later doesn't really equate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Point being if "love" was such a wonderful thing there wouldn't be the divorce rate in this country or cheating or abuse or rape or murder. But glad you are one of the "good guys" So I take it you cheated lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Point being if "love" was such a wonderful thing there wouldn't be the divorce rate in this country or cheating or abuse or rape or murder. But glad you are one of the "good guys" Love is a wonderful thing. There are plenty of other factors that can contribute to divorce (family, stress, bad habits, lack of communication, etc.). And there are just some bad, horrible monsters in the world (i.e abusive spouse/parent, rapist, murderer, etc.). Again, keeping to the topic, we are talking about two people, in love, about to get married and the groom cheating on his bride to be at his bachelor party with another woman. Doing that is a ****ty thing to do. I'm not trying to paint myself as this fantastic person, best find a woman could ever land, husband of the decade type person. I was raised to treat women right and I value my marriage vows and long term commitment to one woman (my wife). I have my flaws, just like anyone else. I'm sure my wife could make a nice long list of them. I can be a selfish ass at times too, when it comes down to me not wanting to do something. I just don't condone cheating on someone. And if one is going to at their bachelor party, I'm willing to bet they shouldn't be getting married anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 But why ruin the best thing in my life for one night of sex with someone that doesn't care about me when it's all said and done? How do you know that stripper/hooker won't think about you daily as the one who got away? What if she was truly your soulmate and you passed up on that because of some moral highroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Point being if "love" was such a wonderful thing there wouldn't be the divorce rate in this country or cheating or abuse or rape or murder. But glad you are one of the "good guys" This almost makes it seem inevitable. I guess on the macro level we have to accept that half the people who get married end up getting divorced (or whatever the specific statistic is). But on the micro level, it's all within our control. Each couple chooses to make the decision (wisely or unwisely) to ultimately commit to one another and then to break that commitment. So, on the micro level, it bothers me to read or hear the opinion "eh, there's a decent chance I'm just going to end up cheating or getting divorced." It feels like a cop out since everyone can control whether they do it or whether they put themselves in that position to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 So many great catches here on ES. You guys are saints Divorce rates in America wouldn't be so high if women married ES posters I'm honestly surprised by the survey results. I definitely think of those on here as having a high level of integrity (from what I've read and who I've met over the years), but it's still surprising to me in today's world. It's a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I'm amazed at the number of guys who try to cheat on their wives on business travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The British survey, conducted by coupon company VoucherCloud, also found that 92 percent of bachelor party attendees lie about their cheating for the duration of their marriages." What's the take on this aspect? A part of me feels like, if you don't own up to it right away, it should be your cross to bear forever. What's the point in disclosing it much later in marriage? Is it about being truthful, or are you just trying to relieve some of your own guilt and make yourself feel better about cheating (while in the process making your spouse feel much worse) because hey, at least you admitted it and now you can maybe leverage a little forgiveness out of your partner? Lots of people have said, "If I had found out the day before the wedding my husband/wife had cheated on me at their bachelor/ette party, there wouldn't have been a wedding." Okay. What if you found out the same thing, only after 10-15 years and maybe a couple kids. Are you going to get a divorce now over something that happened that long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 How do you know that stripper/hooker won't think about you daily as the one who got away? What if she was truly your soulmate and you passed up on that because of some moral highroad? LOL, I'm pretty sure women that strip don't do it to find their soul mate, just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Vegas Stripclubs are amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I'm amazed at the number of guys who try to cheat on their wives on business travel. For a person that can cheat on someone, it makes sense though. If they are going to cheat, do it in another city/state where they are less likely to get caught. Don't **** where you eat. When I was in the groc. business, I had one supervisor that would tell stories of when all the directors and fellow supervisors would go to their annual beach outing, him nailing strippers, bar tenders, etc. cause it was in another city far away from his wife. Guy was married with 3 kids, kinda disgusting if you ask me. And his wife was hot. I've witnessed how cheating can ruin someones life, seen it done to close family members and friends and all the ugliness that comes afterwards, especially if it results in divorce. It's very simple, if you get to a point in your relationship where you want to physically have sex with another woman other than your GF/wife, break up with them, get a separation, then go get some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 these sort of statistics are completely pulled out of arseholes (since it is English, and all) As Winston Churchill said; "98 percent of the statistics you find on the internet are worse than English Dentistry" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 What's the take on this aspect? A part of me feels like, if you don't own up to it right away, it should be your cross to bear forever. What's the point in disclosing it much later in marriage? depends on if revealing it later is beneficial, but in general probably best to leave in the closet. if you cheated then would you be forgiving if she cheated later?.....or should she keep it a secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 these sort of statistics are completely pulled out of arseholes Only happens when a mathematician's bachelor party gets completely out of control ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 these sort of statistics are completely pulled out of arseholes (since it is English, and all) As Winston Churchill said; "98 percent of the statistics you find on the internet are worse than English Dentistry" the English are rather deviant as a rule, still not in the Germans class though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Point being if "love" was such a wonderful thing there wouldn't be the divorce rate in this country or cheating or abuse or rape or murder. But glad you are one of the "good guys" People don't understand what love is. Problem number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 It's very simple, if you get to a point in your relationship where you want to physically have sex with another woman other than your GF/wife, break up with them, get a separation, then go get some. Its really not that simple though. In most situations, men love thier wives and couldn't imagine being "in a relationship" with anyone else. You can love your wife and still have physical desires to have sex with other women. It's the reason prostitution has thrived for centuries. I think most men want to have sex with other women whether they would admit it or not. Sure they don't want the drama, emotions, endless texts and romance that come with the women. But they certainly would like to wham, bam, thank you mam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Its really not that simple though. In most situations, men love thier wives and couldn't imagine being "in a relationship" with anyone else. You can love your wife and still have physical desires to have sex with other women. It's the reason prostitution has thrived for centuries. I think most men want to have sex with other women whether they would admit it or not. Sure they don't want the drama, emotions, endless texts and romance that come with the women. But they certainly would like to wham, bam, thank you mam. I'm not saying that men don't think about or don't want to have sex with another hot, sexy bombshell. That's human nature, for most, physical attraction to the opposite gender. I'm talking about giving into that impulse and being weak minded to cheat. I'm not saying that I only find my wife attractive and have never looked at another woman in a sexual way since the day I met my wife. That would be a lie. I had opportunities to cheat on her when we were dating and after we were married. In college, one gal made it perfectly clear what she wanted from me on multiple occasions. To the extent that one time she whispered it in my ear during class and stuck her tongue in my ear lol. She was hot and yes, it turned me on knowing that if I wanted to I could dive right into some afternoon delight. But I'm not weak, I stayed faithful to my wife. That girl knew I was engaged, she didn't give two ****s about the impact it would have on me or my wife. She just wanted sex and didn't care if it ruined someones relationship as long as she got her rocks off. I actually told my wife about it right after it happened. We don't have any secrets and have always communicated extremely well. She wasn't happy about it by any means. But I've always been a put it out in the open kind of guy in relationships. Which is why my wife and I have a healthy, long lasting relationship (over 22 years). So it is that simple. One does not have to go out and act on their impulses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiLfan Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Also who are "Sex experts" whenever I see a "Sex Expert" its usually a middle aged or middle aged woman that are extremely unattractive with a huge mole under their lip and a turkey neck. Or one of these guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 That simply means they get more than Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is getting a lap dance cheating? If so, yes. If not, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is getting a lap dance cheating? If so, yes. If not, no. I wouldn't consider that cheating. Unless you're talking some extra action after the dance like a handy or oral sex, then yes I would consider that cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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