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Zoony,

then there is only 1 other entity of the organization that can be held accountable, and that's the scouting dept.

 

Its painfully obvious that whatever they are seeing isn't resonating with how the team's direction wants to go.

But you also have to look at the simplistic fact of a coach and his main job, which is to teach and train players in their position and to teach them to recognize tendencies, habits, fundamentals of a certain position.

 

I'm not sure what Haslett is looking at in the film room, but its not the upcoming opponents; maybe the Flintstones or the Jetsons, and that's EVEN IF he has ever been in the film room.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think zoony is arguing for Haslett as much as it is him just saying "yeah, we get it, Gruden is fine, but who cares because the organization is messed up". Basically, what you're saying here.

Don't want to to speak for him, of course. But, yeah. Haslett is definitely an issue and if he doesn't think that then I'd disagree with him on that part at least.

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I did like the way Gruden handled his presser.

With that said did anybody else have a HUGE problem with Desean's?

It really rubbed me the wrong way when he was asked about Robert and he responded he is "THEIR" guy.

Shouldn't he be saying "OUR" guy?

How could anyone be surprised when the media skews stuff when our own fans do it. He said he was "our qb" before that, then said its the coaches decision and he's their guy, then said he was very comfortable with Robert as qb. Nothing to see....

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How could anyone be surprised when the media skews stuff when our own fans do it. He said he was "our qb" before that, then said its the coaches decision and he's their guy, then said he was very comfortable with Robert as qb. Nothing to see....

 

appreciate you clearing that up

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if he really about it, he'll fire Haslett and Morris 8am tomorrow.

 

Those two clowns need to gtfo.

 

I'm so sick of NO ONE in the secondary ever knowing what coverage they should be in. CBs give releases without safety help while the safety follows the middle of the field.

 

EVERY ****ING PLAY.

 

 

And who coaches the DB's?  Raheem Morris.  If anyone is hired as the new DC I'd want Wade Phillips.  Solid coordinator but not a good head coach.  You can't do it in season though.  It's too much to ask of a new DC.  You're pretty much giving up on the season if you do that.  You have to wait; as much as it pains me to say that.  Cause I don't think Haz will change.  Does great vs good qbs and terrible vs rookies and backups.

 

Now, if w really wanna be bold then throw a bunch of money and former Redskin Todd Bowles.But again, that's an off-season move. 

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Hate to say it, but I think(inadvertantly or not) race has a lot to do with it. Major 2 QB storylines of last 2 weeks? It's the same for BOTH Quarterbacks....Griffin and Russell Wilson...."the quarterback is not black enough" and " the quarterback is losing the locker room"..

 

Both have had the exact same storyline in their career.

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He also killed the offense by only throwing to DeSean and Jordan Reed a total of 6 times. 

 

Oh, did Jay play QB today?  :rolleyes:  And darn that Jay for scripting 5 sacks too.  Robert didn't cost the team the game but he gets some of the blame too.  I'd say 80% on defense and 20% on Robert.  Jay had guys running wide open.  Garcon at the end there.  Reid was open several times.  One time Robert took a sack when Reid was running a crossing route with a couple steps on the defender. 

 

You should really WATCH the game before popping off and making yourself look bad here.

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I like Gruden. He's been far from perfect this season, same as the rest of the team, but I like his fire. He doesn't sugar coat anything or play favorites. If you mess up he will call you out. And he does the same to himself. Just gotta build a solid team around the pieces we have now and I think he'll be fine here

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Most of these reports are just low hanging fruit for lazy journalist trying to land a better gig. Just follow some of the twitter stuff, outside of a few they are Clown Shoes. Keep it short and sweet and don't give them ****. If even the credible guys start getting shut down maybe they will all start to consume each other. Wishful thinking....sigh

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Uh-oh, you acknowledged race could potentially be issue at the one position in football where it has ALWAYS been an issue. Get ready to be called a moron by someone insisting they aren't racist when you never accused them personally of it.

I know free speech is limited here, but one has to acknowledge that there is a camp in which this is a factor. In my opinion, there are three forces at work. The 'QB is a sacred white-man's position' camp is certainly one of them. But you also have the anti-name crowd who doesn't like the fact that such a great person could be the face of such a dispicable franchise, and then there's the camp that is finds openly Christian people repugnant. There may be other forces, but I think this covers the main three where you just see the weirdest comments.

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Wrong. Offense did enough to put the Vikes away today and Hazmat (as we have seen him do every week for five years) just let the opposing offense march right back down the field, time after time. You can second-guess the offensive playcalling all you want, but they put points on the board. So did our defense. Except they put points on the board for the Vikes.

 

DEFENSE lost this game today!

 

Yeah, and if we had gone into the half leading 10-7 we would have ended the game with more points than the Vikes. Sure, the D should have stopped them then, but it was all unnecessary. I hated all the first downs our D was giving the Vikes on 3rd and long in the second half, but in the end it wouldn't have mattered had we just ran out the clock before the half.

Blame the D all you want. I just wanted to win the game... and THIS would have won the game.

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As for Zorn, he was handed an aging roster and Vinny helmed one of the worst drafts in history (2008) for him. I don't doubt for one second he does a lot better with even decent personnel.

Started to lose me with Spurrier but really lost me here. I honestly believe Jim Zorn is the worst HC in NFL history. Dude was an absolute clown, a joke. He had no business being hired as our OC, let alone as our HC
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Started to lose me with Spurrier but really lost me here. I honestly believe Jim Zorn is the worst HC in NFL history. Dude was an absolute clown, a joke. He had no business being hired as our OC, let alone as our HC

I'm not going to argue for him really, lol. It's hard to, I know. But I think my point still stands. I didn't say he'd be great. I said he'd do much, much better had we had a legitimate GM building the team for his schemes.

Now, remember, "much much better" for how bad we were under him might top off at mediocre, lol. He did lead us to a 6-2 record that first year when the roster Gibbs built was still healthy.

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Started to lose me with Spurrier but really lost me here. I honestly believe Jim Zorn is the worst HC in NFL history. Dude was an absolute clown, a joke. He had no business being hired as our OC, let alone as our HC

All you have to do is listen to Cooley talk about Zorn. Completely in over his head in every facet of the game. As a leader, motivator, gameplanner, etc.

It is of course obvious watching as a fan, but listening to him basically lay everything out, it just blows your mind that it took 2 seasons for the plug to be pulled on him.

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Gruden and Haslett have a history down in Florida.

 

I just hope Gruden's presser wasn't an act; something has to be done, its not getting better. Game film isn't like being on the sidelines, yes there are different angles, but history should be enough of a telltale for him to get the picture.

 

I'm curious how much Allen plays into this; my faith/hopes with him have all but gone now, and its becoming clear why Allen and Haslett, and we can throw in Raheem Morris as well, were outcasts; because they can't get the job done.

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Started to lose me with Spurrier but really lost me here. I honestly believe Jim Zorn is the worst HC in NFL history. Dude was an absolute clown, a joke. He had no business being hired as our OC, let alone as our HC

I don't know if Zorn was the worst in history, but Zorn wasn't very good.

I know some are unhappy we lost today, but to be so bitter at the team that anyone would imply that Spurrier or Zorn would've been great NFL HCs anywhere else is absurd.

Spurrier had NO commitment to being an NFL HC. We all know of Gibbs' legendary marathon hours at Redskins Park. The cot in his office. Staying until they heard the trash truck outside at 3am.

That's commitment. Spurrier didn't show one-tenth of that. He tried to treat his Redskin position like it was an 8-4 job. We all remember him bringing in Wurrfell(sp) to be QB, not knowing the names of any of his defensive players (only referring to them by number), standing at mid-field, practicing his putts when the special teams or defense was practicing.

Folks can be mad at the team today, but should be sensible about it, and not make up ridiculous nonsense.

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That would be the QB not the HC.   RG does not make quick decisions and holds the ball too long.  

 

 

Oh, did Jay play QB today?  :rolleyes:  And darn that Jay for scripting 5 sacks too.  Robert didn't cost the team the game but he gets some of the blame too.  I'd say 80% on defense and 20% on Robert.  Jay had guys running wide open.  Garcon at the end there.  Reid was open several times.  One time Robert took a sack when Reid was running a crossing route with a couple steps on the defender. 

 

You should really WATCH the game before popping off and making yourself look bad here.

 

Whether it's Robert's decision making or Jay's playcalling, it's ridiculous how little these guys are getting the ball.

 

Between the Dallas, Tennessee and Minnesota games, 90% of the time the ball is thrown DeSean's way, something good happens. He should be getting targeted 12 times a game. 

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Yeah, and if we had gone into the half leading 10-7 we would have ended the game with more points than the Vikes. Sure, the D should have stopped them then, but it was all unnecessary. I hated all the first downs our D was giving the Vikes on 3rd and long in the second half, but in the end it wouldn't have mattered had we just ran out the clock before the half.

Blame the D all you want. I just wanted to win the game... and THIS would have won the game.

 

Um, we did go into the half leading 10-7?

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Yeah, and if we had gone into the half leading 10-7 we would have ended the game with more points than the Vikes. Sure, the D should have stopped them then, but it was all unnecessary. I hated all the first downs our D was giving the Vikes on 3rd and long in the second half, but in the end it wouldn't have mattered had we just ran out the clock before the half.

Blame the D all you want. I just wanted to win the game... and THIS would have won the game.

Even with a 10-0 lead, having the ball near midfield..........no way you just sit on the lead going into halftime. Heck, you had folks in the GDT who were mad that we sat on it with just a few seconds left after the Vikes scored. We just got victimized by a poor throw by RG3 and an inept defense. But you can't play conservative there.

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Um, we did go into the half leading 10-7?

 

Your right, my bad... I was thinking they got a quick TD from the INT before the half making it 10-7 instead of just running the ball and running out the clock leaving it at 10-0. My apologies to TD Riggo who was right... blame this loss on the D.

I'm just so pissed off that we lost when we could have gotten up a game against the Cowboys that my memory is slipping.

Sorry!

Even with a 10-0 lead, having the ball near midfield..........no way you just sit on the lead going into halftime. Heck, you had folks in the GDT who were mad that we sat on it with just a few seconds left after the Vikes scored. We just got victimized by a poor throw by RG3 and an inept defense. But you can't play conservative there.

 

True, the D should have stopped them the way they did against Dallas.

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Haslett was his usual vomit inducing self. I really don't care what anyone has to say about any other facet of this game...if you can't see that Haslett was not only lost, or outcoached, but severely incompetent with his scheming & adjustments then i really don't have much to talk about at this point. Haslett should be fired 6 hours ago....his performance was pathetic, anemic, lacked creativity, & any semblance of malice of forethought. It was apparent that his only real goal today was to spectacularly display his resounding ineptitude as a DC.

Haslett should not only be fired, but drawn & quartered immediately after being tarred & feathered. Just absolutely pathetic. Eff that guy.

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I'm not going to argue for him really, lol. It's hard to, I know. But I think my point still stands. I didn't say he'd be great. I said he'd do much, much better had we had a legitimate GM building the team for his schemes.

Now, remember, "much much better" for how bad we were under him might top off at mediocre, lol. He did lead us to a 6-2 record that first year when the roster Gibbs built was still healthy.

 

Two words for you my friend: Swinging Gate

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