Burgold Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Ever since the days of Cooley and Davis, HC's and OC's have been threatening or promising to devise a two headed tight end attack. It's something that the Giants, the Patriots and others have done for years. Yet for us, it remained impossible and elusive. It's been that way despite us fielding multiple productive and effective tight ends at the same time for almost ten years. Now, for the first time... and I just noticed it... we have three actively engaged tight ends. Paul's a threat. Reed's in there too. Mix and match packages. Now, I haven't seen them running routes simultaneously or noticed it, but I think I remember announcers talking about it (especially due to our ineffectiveness in setting the edge). Who'd a thunk that it would take ten years to figure out how to take advantage of two effective tight ends. And Paul's looked better than he ever did under Shanny. You can almost understand why Shanny loved him so much. Somehow, under Gruden the boy can catch. Kudos to the coaching staff and players. Let's see more. Imagine having to defend Garcon, Jackson, Paul, and Reed with Helu in the backfield (and Polumbus on the bench). That's darn scary for a d coordinator to scheme against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Reed needs to stay healthy before he can be considered a threat. I'm just glad to see the lumbering hurdler not on the field. Like watching a hippo jump over a tree stump; slow motion, careless, and I cringed every single time, because most of the time before he landed, a safety was there to 'clean his clock', and i'd start looking for the ball on the field. I believe its Paulssen? Bad part is, he's got talent and can catch some crazy balls thrown his way, and he'd be good in situational plays, just not a sustained starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't know if I've seen Paul and Reed on the field together, but I do like the emergence of Paul as a reliable second TE who we're comfortable with in case Reed needs a spell or gets injured. I felt like there was a noticeable upgrade to our offense when Reed gained his confidence last year and a noticeable drop when he got injured. Now that Paul's getting reps I don't think we have that single point of failure any more. I don't know how I feel about the multiple TE sets. One is because we have the WR threats (although I'm kinda torn between Roberts and Paul) and second because they're both receiving TEs. I think Paul still has a ways to go to learn the blocking schemes of a TE before the multiple TE set with Paul and Reed can be different than a simple 4 WR set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Reed has had some bad luck with injuries but he is clearly a special talent. He's made a number of spectacular catches, and none finer than that one along the sideline Monday night. I'm not sure there's another tight end in the league that makes that catch. Niles is decent, but he can't make that catch. It SHOCKED me when twice he was tackled behind the first down marker on third downs late in the game, because he normally is very good after the catch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmuss1 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I like our two TE's right now, sometimes Niles struggles in blocking and sealing the edge, but he makes up for it with the mismatches he creates with LB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Agree w many. Paulsen needs to be able to fit the Donnie Warren role, but pretty pleased w our crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Reed has had some bad luck with injuries but he is clearly a special talent. He's made a number of spectacular catches, and none finer than that one along the sideline Monday night. I'm not sure there's another tight end in the league that makes that catch. Niles is decent, but he can't make that catch. It SHOCKED me when twice he was tackled behind the first down marker on third downs late in the game, because he normally is very good after the catch as well. image.jpg That catch was unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squijoo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 2/3 of our TE are undersized at the position. we need to look for a prototype TE to build around. that being said, they are serviceable for now, reed made a great catch. I am not seeing what the hype is about reed though, pretty run of the mill injury prone player at a tough position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I will say though that in Madden, especially with the updated rosters, Reed and Paul is a nice TE combo. Ok, back to your regularly scheduled topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 2/3 of our TE are undersized at the position. we need to look for a prototype TE to build around. that being said, they are serviceable for now, reed made a great catch. I am not seeing what the hype is about reed though, pretty run of the mill injury prone player at a tough position you dont see what the hype about reed is? seriously? how many clutch catches does he need to make you believe the hype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squijoo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 you dont see what the hype about reed is? seriously? how many clutch catches does he need to make you believe the hype? that's the thing. it shouldn't be hype. it should be expected with the clutch catches, that is his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 that's the thing. it shouldn't be hype. it should be expected with the clutch catches, that is his job then he seems to be doing his job pretty well after coming back from his injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squijoo Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 truth, let's hope he keeps it up. bout time our TE were utilized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 We don't need a prototype TE when we have two lighter playmaking TEs. Stick with what we have and maximize their production in conjunction with the WR core. If anything I'd say we needed a better blocking TE to complement Reed and Paul. Unfortunately Paulson seems to have taken a step back these last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The reason you've been waiting so many years to see it is because two undersized. non-blocking TEs is a formula to kill your running game. And that's what we're seeing now, Reed and Paul on the field together a lot and Morris suffering for it. It's essentially a 4 WR formation, except two of them are lined up on the line of scrimmage and drawing defenders there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The reason you've been waiting so many years to see it is because two undersized. non-blocking TEs is a formula to kill your running game. And that's what we're seeing now, Reed and Paul on the field together a lot and Morris suffering for it. It's essentially a 4 WR formation, except two of them are lined up on the line of scrimmage and drawing defenders there. How many two TE formations did we really run with Niles/Jordan against Dallas? It seemed like we primarily went 3 WR 1 TE. I was specifically looking for Jordan Reed in the huddle most plays because I had him in fantasy (and he left me 3 points shy of a win). Without having counted plays it seemed we were primarily 3WR/1TE with Reed/Paul splitting snaps fairly evenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 How many two TE formations did we really run with Niles/Jordan against Dallas? It seemed like we primarily went 3 WR 1 TE. I was specifically looking for Jordan Reed in the huddle most plays because I had him in fantasy (and he left me 3 points shy of a win). Without having counted plays it seemed we were primarily 3WR/1TE with Reed/Paul splitting snaps fairly evenly. Primarily in 3 WR, yes. But I saw the two TEs together a bunch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BgMase76# Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'm getting the feeling that they just don't trust Reed as much. Paul is undersized but the bulk of plays it felt like Paul was out there. We saw Colt look for Reed late in the game. On Colts QB draw he was the lead blocker on the LB. I know he's been more injured than active. But his upside engulfs Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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