visionary Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/06/us-mexico-violence-idUSKCN0HU0SW20141006 Mexico's president vows to find miscreants responsible for massacre Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto vowed on Monday to hunt down those responsible for the apparent massacre of dozens of students in the southwest of the country that authorities say involved local security officials. The students went missing after they clashed with police in Iguala in the volatile, gang-ridden state of Guerrero on Sept. 26. A mass grave was found near the town over the weekend, full of charred human remains. Guerrero's attorney general, Inaky Blanco, said on Sunday that 28 bodies have been found at the site so far, and it is "probable" that some of the missing 43 students are among the remains found in the graves. Blanco said on Sunday that two gang hitmen have admitted killing 17 of the missing students with the help of security officials. The likelihood of official involvement creates a major headache for Peña Nieto, who has sought to shift attention away from Mexico's gangland violence and onto a batch of economic reforms he has driven through Congress. Angel Aguirre, the governor of Guerrero state, said he was certain the students were killed by gangs in cahoots with the police. He added that he expected at least some of the bodies in the mass grave would be those of the students, but said tests still needed to be completed to make sure. "It could well be them, I don't rule it out, it's a very real possibility," Aguirre, who has been criticized for not doing enough to clean up the state and keep a lid on the rampant violence, said in a radio interview. Some 22 local police have been arrested in connection with the violent incidents in Guerrero. http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/150047 Mexican Army Disarms Police in Missing Students City Mexico's federal forces took over security Monday in a southern city where 43 students disappeared and disarmed the entire municipal police force after gang-linked officers shot at the aspiring teachers. Monte Alejandro Rubido Garcia, the national security commissioner, said the Iguala police officers will be sent to a military base to undergo evaluations while investigators check whether their guns were used in any crimes. The federal police's new paramilitary-like gendarmerie took over public safety in the city while the army will guard Iguala's entrances in the violence-plagued southern state of Guerrero, he said. Rubido said federal authorities will "shine light on the criminal events in the Iguala area" as well as contribute to the search for the missing students. The move came after the weekend discovery of a mass grave containing 28 unidentified bodies outside Iguala, where the students were last seen more than a week ago. Authorities say it will take at least two weeks to get the results of DNA tests to identify the corpses found some 200 kilometers (125 miles) south of Mexico City. Some were in pieces after being set on fire in a bed of branches. Witnesses say several students, who are from a teacher training college known as a hotbed of radical protests, were whisked away in police vehicles on the night of September 26 after officers shot at buses the youngsters had commandeered to return home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Can a democratic government ever rid itself of corruption that wide spread? I wonder if there is any historical precedent for something like that. Democracy tends to be all about cooperation, reform, and gradual long debated and heavily scrutinized change. I'm not sure anything short of scrapping government and police agencies entirely and rebuilding them from scratch with a heavy handed mechanism to find and defeat corruption will even have a chance. That's not the kind of things democracies tend to do to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 http://news.yahoo.com/mexico-mayor-partied-instead-protecting-students-prosecutor-193841965.html;_ylt=AwrBEiQeCDdU6lsA9EXQtDMD New mass graves found in missing Mexican students case The case of 43 Mexican students missing since an attack by gang-linked police took another grim turn Thursday with the discovery of new mass graves where suspects said some were buried. Four new suspects took investigators to the site of the four pits, 200 kilometers (125 miles) south of Mexico City, but the number of bodies remains unknown, said Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam. "They say there are remains of students," Murillo Karam said, adding that some of the bodies appeared burned. The discovery has put another dent on hopes of finding the students alive almost two weeks after they were pursued by Iguala police officers accused of working in tandem with the Guerreros Unidos gang. The pits are "relatively" close to the location of another mass grave found last weekend in the southern state of Guerrero that contained 28 unidentified bodies, the attorney general said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Can a democratic government ever rid itself of corruption that wide spread?Not there. I know too many people who keep in close touch with others in Mexico, that place is a hot mess of "I don'tknow what." I couldn't even begin to tell stories because I worry about my safety, even over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8f6eadf273d540c594763e92388ca9cf/alleged-capo-kills-self-thwart-mexican-forces Mexico prosecutor: Students not in 1st mass graves None of the 43 students missing since a confrontation with police in a southern city were among the 28 bodies found in the first set of mass graves outside that town, Mexico's attorney general said Tuesday. Jesus Murillo Karam said there are still no signs of the teachers college students who disappeared Sept. 26 after violent incidents blamed on police in the city of Iguala. He also said 14 more police officers have been arrested and confessed to participating in the disappearance. The 14 are from the police force of Cocula, a town neighboring Iguala. Authorities have said police involved in "disappearing" the students were working in conjunction with a local drug gang. An alleged leader of that drug gang, Guerreros Unidos, killed himself during a confrontation with Mexican security forces Tuesday, a day after protesters demanding an investigation into the students' whereabouts burned government buildings in Chilpancingo, capital of the southern state of Guerrero. Federal forces, which include federal police and military personnel, were carrying out an operation to capture Benjamin Mondragon, or "Benjamon," the alleged head of the Guerreros Unidos gang in the neighboring state of Morelos, when a gunfight broke out, a federal official said. The official, who was not authorized to be quoted by name, did not say which federal force had taken part in the confrontation. Mondragon killed himself as he was about to be arrested, the official said, though he had no details on how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 He need only look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/08/us-mexico-violence-idUSKBN0IR2CJ20141108?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews Gang member confessions point to massacre of missing Mexico students Mexico's government said on Friday evidence suggests that 43 missing trainee teachers were murdered and their charred remains tipped in a rubbish dump and a river in southwest Mexico, based on the confessions of three detained gang members. Attorney General Jesus Murillo said the detainees, caught a week ago, admitted setting fire to a group of bodies in a dump near Iguala in the state of Guerrero, where the students went missing on Sept. 26 after clashing with police. Then, the perpetrators set about removing all the evidence, Murillo told a news conference, showing taped confessions of the detained, photographs of where remains were found and video re-enactments of how the bodies were moved. "They didn't just burn the bodies with their clothes, they also burned the clothes of those who participated," Murillo said. "They tried to erase every possible trace." The government says police working with a local drug gang abducted the students after the clashes. The kidnapping triggered mass protests in much of the country and seriously undermined President Enrique Pena Nieto's claims that Mexico has become safer on his watch. The disappearances have been the toughest challenge yet to face Pena Nieto, who took office two years ago vowing to restore order in Mexico, where about 100,000 people have died in violence linked to organized crime since 2007. A grim-faced Pena Nieto said the findings had "shocked and offended" Mexico and pledged to round up everyone involved. "The investigations will be carried out to the full, all those responsible will be punished under the law," he said. Dozens of police are among 74 people held in the case. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/07/world/americas/mexico-missing-students/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Remains could be those of 43 missing Mexican students The 43 Mexican students who disappeared in southern Mexico in September were abducted by police on order of a local mayor, and are believed to have been turned over to a gang that killed them and burned their bodies before throwing some remains in a river, the nation's attorney general said Friday. This is the conclusion that investigators have reached, Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam said, though he cautioned that it cannot be known with certainty until DNA tests confirm the identities. This will be a challenge, he said, as the badly burned fragments make it difficult to extract DNA. "I have to identify, to do everything in my power, to identify, to know if these were the students," Murillo said. Parents of the college students reacted immediately, some saying the evidence is inconclusive and insisting that their children are alive. Photos: Missing Mexican students Photos: Missing Mexican students See Mexican police search for students New video of missing Mexican students 43 students lost. These are their faces "We are not going to believe anything until the experts tell us: You know what? It is them," Mario Cesar Gonzalez, the father of one of the students, told CNN en Español. Another parent, Isrrael Galindo, said the government is getting ahead of itself in an attempt to get protests over the disappearance of the students to stop and the public to stop demanding answers. "The government is trying to resolve things its way so that to rid itself of this great problem it is facing," Galindo, who lives in California but whose wife and children are in Mexico, told CNN en Español. "My son is alive. My son is alive. My son is alive," he repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Can a democratic government ever rid itself of corruption that wide spread? I wonder if there is any historical precedent for something like that. Democracy tends to be all about cooperation, reform, and gradual long debated and heavily scrutinized change. I'm not sure anything short of scrapping government and police agencies entirely and rebuilding them from scratch with a heavy handed mechanism to find and defeat corruption will even have a chance. That's not the kind of things democracies tend to do to themselves. that sort of thing is really hard to root out once its institutionalized.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 What a waste. Mexico is a Beautiful country....but is filled with crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 What a waste. Mexico is a Beautiful country....but is filled with crap be careful there.... sayings Mexico is filled with weak institutions, that fail to adequately protect against the crappiest elements of society... is very different than what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 that sort of thing is really hard to root out once its institutionalized.... I think it is exceptionally difficult to root out corruption on a national level like Mexico has. You can send state or federal agencies into a city or federal agencies into a state but how do you dig into a federal corruption like this? The only institution typically strong enough to do anything is the military, but I honestly don't know anything about Mexico's military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/156655 Mexicans Occupy Prosecutor's Office in 43 Missing Case Hundreds of protesters stormed a federal prosecutor's office in southern Mexico Monday in the latest demonstration against the government's handling of the apparent slaughter of 43 students. Some 300 people, some wearing masks, occupied the building in the Guerrero state capital Chilpancingo for around four hours, a state security official told Agence France Presse. Nearly all staff left the attorney general's office during the occupation, the official said on condition of anonymity. The protesters spray-painted "43 are missing" on the walls. The demonstrators included members of the radical CETEG teachers union, which has participated in violent protests in recent weeks, including the burning of the state government headquarters and local legislature. Tens of thousands of people protested in Mexico City and other regions last week, demanding that the authorities find the 43 young men who attended a teacher-training college near Chilpancingo safe and sound. Authorities say members of the Guerreros Unidos drug gang confessed to killing the students and incinerating their bodies near the city of Iguala after receiving them from corrupt police officers. But authorities have stopped short of declaring them dead, saying they are waiting for DNA evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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