RedBeast Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Jesus this board is losing their minds...just coming apart at the seams I tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Jesus this board is losing their minds...just coming apart at the seams I tell ya Its really not to far fetched. If we have the season a lot of think we will. You gotta think Gruden is gone. That gives Scott the ability to hire his coach and that coach to draft his QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobiemiles Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 We should have fired Jay Gruden last year. We should have hired Todd Boles, or Rex Ryan. We always do things backwards. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Really we need to find our O coordinator. We usually hire those first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Its really not to far fetched. If we have the season a lot of think we will. You gotta think Gruden is gone. That gives Scott the ability to hire his coach and that coach to draft his QB. True, I think gruden will be gone if we have a bad season...however, can't we wait until we are actually losing games in the regular season before we start guessing who our next coach will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qdeathstar Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ooooh, I'm excited! I hopes we draft Jim Harbaugh for coach next year, he was very good in college plus he did OK with an RG3 type guy last time he was in the nfl, and since the griffster is gonna be concussed for contracts till next year neway, LETS DO THS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 ..... I like what you did there but I'm leaving this thread as I stand alone darn it and won't be lead anywhere! Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I really wish the Packers had gone 9-7 last year. Then an underwhelming Packers season, leads to McCarthy leaving to come here for a record breaking coaching contract where he proceeds to go 6-10 for the next three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Art Briles and bring RG3 back for the 5th year option and we'll be good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 2001 - Marty - vet retread 2002 - Spurrier - hot college coach 2004 - gibbs - vet retread 2008 - zorn - unknown young coordinator 2010 - shanahan - vet retread 2014 - ??? - young/hot college/NFL coordinator 2016 - ??? - vet retread hahaha sad but true We've basically done it every way you can do it, to no avail. But we've had the most success with the vet retread. Basically, the assistant/coordinator or college coach path has been dead on arrival. But I have to say, when we go vet retread, we go big. Can't do much better than Marty, Gibbs, and Shanny on paper. We should have fired Jay Gruden last year. We should have hired Todd Boles, or Rex Ryan. We always do things backwards. I I would like to see another non-offensive coach get a shot. Mix it up a little, try something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I actually think Gruden should stay through end of next season - and I am no fan of fat Chucky. Think about it. If Scott McCloughan is really honest about our roster, this thing is a **** sandwich regardless of the coach. Let Gruden be the captain of this dumpster fire. In 2 drafts and 2 free agencies, this entire roster should be rebuilt. Then fire Gruden and have a young roster filled with talent that would lure a real coach. Let us hire an caliber NFL coach when we have an NFL roster. Basically, let Gruden be our Randy Wittman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I didn't realize that this thread went back 2 years haha. Feels so.... topical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FivePointHammer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we clean house. Jay and Scot are very philosophically similar as far as how you build a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm going with the concept that we may have a promising young guy already, and the wild idea of not mouthing faux platitudes of support while figuring on posting a consistent stream of negativity about him on the board (with or without the faux platitudes). Roast him as objectively and accurately merited, praise him the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FivePointHammer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Also, I think it was correctly identified that Jay was way over his head last year, especially on the offensive side of the ball and so they brought in a quality O-line coach, QB coach, and DB coach. He's still thought of around the league as a top offensive mind and so we'll see how much more improved they are. I tend to think they'll be competitive with a functioning qb as long as they can run the ball and stop the run. I still think they'll give up more big plays than they should unfortunately. I can't wait to see. Would have the feeling that we're building, and don't need another reset, if we can be middle of the pack. I'm pleased with 7-9 wins, and I think, especially with a weak schedule, that is more than possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I predicted Sean Payton Saints are going to suck again this year and he's getting the axe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Jeebus FivePoint--"they" didn't bring those guys in, Jay did---of course with at least the GM discussing it---you think Jay didn't want to bring guys in? I keep reading that same thing. What the hell goes on in your guys heads, really? Holy **** the dumbing down effect of made up minds and rigid biases based on nothing special in the way of processing to begin with. (the last line not at FivePoint at all, just in general to so many) Not only that--but as I have said already--for many posters, if they do well, those assistant coaches and other figures/events will be given credit (iow, everyone/everything but Jay) and if the don't, jay will get all the blame. You can't make this **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm going with the concept that we may have a promising young guy already, and the wild idea of not mouthing faux platitudes of support while figuring on posting a consistent stream of negativity about him on the board (with or without the faux platitudes). Roast him as objectively and accurately merited, praise him the same way. Do you think it's possible, likely even, that Gruden is something between great and mediocre? I think here of someone like Lovie Smith, who had a good run, but maybe won't touch that again, or Dennis Green, who seemed excellent when his teams were excellent? I don't think anyone can argue that Green and Smith were great coordinators and had some great years as HCs, but ultimately maybe the NFL is that way now. I mean, does anyone think Jason Garrett is great? But there he is, and maybe they'll win a SB and if they don't maybe it really isn't his fault. I mean Bill B's don't grow on trees, and guys like Mike Tomlin seem fairly competent but are also married to competent organizations (I doubt he has the longevity he's had with another franchise) IF that's the case, it's more important what Scott does (is it one 't' or two?) and how much he changes how the organization is run. Sustained success, even just below any SB titles seems important as a means to create the conditions for success for a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotty21 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm usually forever-the-optimist when it comes to the Skins every preseason, but hot damn... this team is going to flat out suck this year. We're a three-win team at best imo. I never thought I'd say this... but Gruden is just below Zorn as far as head coaching ability status. The guy seriously and utterly has no clue what he is doing. The whole thing just makes me sad. The RG3 debacle... the injuries... the complete disarray of the front office. All of it. It's just facepalm city every time I click on Facebook and see all the news reports each day. It sucks to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bill Cowher. Now is the time. When I first opened the stadium and saw this thread, I had a serious lol. Well played ES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 going with the retread feel:Marty SchottenheimerNorv TurnerBill Cowher Nick SabanJim HaslettMike ShanahanRod MarinelliWade Phillips Romeo Crenel Joe Barry (he's already here)Steve Spagnuolo Leslie FrazierGregg Williams Rob RyanDid I miss anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ghost--absolutely I think that's possible and is the most logical (and certainly much less stupid than the norm here) analysis--the big caveat to that is it's still too early in that guy's career to know for sure. A detached and thorough look at his professional (and life even) history says a lot to me, and mostly positive. But I have expressed many times my real reservations about him having what it takes in both X's & O's and "leadership" (those latter doubts waning) become a top-notch HC at this level, or even become a good one. I think I see the potential. I think the quantity and general quality of the consistently strong and definite negatives posted here are more reflective of the pro rg3 biases of many doing such, and the lower end of typical message board noise (see above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Brian Billick going with the retread feel: Did I miss anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphs56 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Gruden got his way and the QB he wanted. If he puts together a disastrous season, I think that will be the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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