Boss_Hogg Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 … Ugh… Hmmm… He said this, and then he's putting RG3 in the sandpit against the Seahawks? Or you mean … or maybe you didn't mean … but. Well, RG3 was put in the sandpit against the Seahawks, AND THEN, he said what he said about RG3 playing on turf. As a result of the Seahawks game. Get it? One of Shan's excuses for possibly sitting RGIII are the "synthetic turf" conditions in Atlanta and New Jersey. Yet we saw our franchise QB play in a freaking blizzard yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Stupid Loser Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The other question is, why hasn't he talked to RG3 about this yet? Why did he go to Dan first? Because RG3 is a player and has no say in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 He's trying to force Snyder to fire him so he can still get paid. It also puts pressure on Snyder to do something so that Shanahan can say "see, I told you. I tried to make a move for what I think is best for the team and Snyder came in to override my decision because he's Roberts protector and buddy." Yep, nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Does RGIII have any playing time or games played incentives in his contract? It would also give the media and others the ability to say that RGIII has yet to play a full season in the NFL. Things could get ugly fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemocystem Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 He's totally daring Dan to fire him, 1...& 2) he's doing so knowing that if Dan fires him after this revelation that it only further justifies Shanahan's leaked story & stance. If I were Dan, I would let the season play out...let Shanahan dig his own grave. Best case scenario Is that Kirk's trade value goes up & he still fires Shanahan. This is a lose-lose now for the Dan because he waited till today. If he fires him last night we don't have this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Then I thank my lucky stars that it may allow me to get a 1st round pick, or a 2nd and a 3rd, for Cousins and go from there. Griffin's eventual cieling is much higher than Cousins is. And I think a healthy Griffin in his 3rd year is better than Cousins in the short term as well to be honest. While Cousins may be a "safer" bet (I'm not even sure about that), I'd take Griffin as the gamble every time because of the ceiling on his talent and ability. Cousins coming in and doing great, to me, just improves his value to flip him. Actually, him doing great for 3 games could be the best thing for us. Lets us flip him in the off season, reducing the chance of some kind of "controversy" occuring as we enter into Griffin's 3rd year coming off a subpar (and yet strangely, far from "bad") year. So if I'm reading you correctly, you feel RG3's ceiling is more important, even if evidence suggests that the team plays harder and performs better with Cousins. What effect do you think that would have on the rest of the team if you trade away the QB they played for for the one they didn't? Especially given that the thing with athletes with high ceilings is the risk they never actually reach that ceiling. I realize I'm not being fair and just playing devil's advocate. Just like hearing reasonable discussions about these sort of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkproof Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 History... Repeats Itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisxcore Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Well, if anything, Shanahan has shown he's got balls of steel. Don't you wish it would somehow transfer to his football team on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaLazarou Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is a lose-lose now for the Dan because he waited till today. If he fires him last night we don't have this situation. He would still lose face if he fired him last night. Snyder the hot-head. Hasn't matured as an owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoidiodyssey Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 HAILSKINSNYC, on 09 Dec 2013 - 4:08 PM, said: by the way, I bet Cousins plays well. They will design a game plan to make Cousins look good...they will bootleg teams to death. Hopefully this will lead to a 1st round pick That is the best possible outcome. I would like to see RG3 get through the year healthy. He has been sacked like 15 times in the last 3 games. But this smacks of Shanny daring Snyder to fire him. If he cared about RG3's health he would have benched him in the snow this week. Or pulled him earlier. That game was over at halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisxcore Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 by the way, I bet Cousins plays well. They will design a game plan to make Cousins look good...they will bootleg teams to death. Hopefully this will lead to a 1st round pick You could look at it like that, or, you could look at it as one final middle finger from the Shanahans as they walk away at the end of the year leaving behind the mess that's been made AND a QB controversy to boot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is very similar to the "Cardiovascular" BS from 2010. So now the Red Lobster is concerned about the health of his QB? BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 by the way, I bet Cousins plays well. They will design a game plan to make Cousins look good...they will bootleg teams to death. Hopefully this will lead to a 1st round pick First I think the idea of sitting RGIII is wrong - design better protection schemes, improve the play calling and get someone semi competent at RT. But in response to the comment above, designing a game plan to make your QB look good is kind of what any OC should be doing. I'd hope it's what they have been trying to do for RGIII all season, though you'd have to say they have not done a very good job of that. We are not getting a first round pick for Cousins though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldSkinner Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 RG3 helps to fill those seats and brings in viewers. By benching him, Shanny is messing with Snyder's money. RG3 will be starting against Dallas one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Because RG3 is a player and has no say in it? Most coaches tell their QB whenj they are going to bench them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 What is here that is worth protecting? Sad, so sad....but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is Shanahans heel turn. Or is it a face turn because everyone hates Snyder? and is RG3 a tweener? Hated by some, loved by some? Someone's getting stunned before this over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I don't understand the thoughtless logic some of you are using. Griffin plays and gets hurt, possibly seriously against Atlanta, and every single one of you would be ripping Mike a new one about starting him. Its amazing how narrow-minded some of you are; this just might not be a F-U Snyder move, it may very well be to protect Griffin from possible injury! But being the witch hunt is on, no point in talking to walls. Just as kleese ridiculed me on the very subject of sitting Griffin the rest of the year to 'prevent any possible injury and have him ready for next season', and his sarcastic remark towards me [ unjustified at that ] being it is a discussion forum. There's just no way for Mike to try and do the right thing is there. Its all about Griffin, screw everyone else. geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I don't understand the thoughtless logic some of you are using. Griffin plays and gets hurt, possibly seriously against Atlanta, and every single one of you would be ripping Mike a new one about starting him. Its amazing how narrow-minded some of you are; this just might not be a F-U Snyder move, it may very well be to protect Griffin from possible injury! But being the witch hunt is on, no point in talking to walls. Just as kleese ridiculed me on the very subject of sitting Griffin the rest of the year to 'prevent any possible injury and have him ready for next season', and his sarcastic remark towards me [ unjustified at that ] being it is a discussion forum. There's just no way for Mike to try and do the right thing is there. Its all about Griffin, screw everyone else. geez How does that look to the rest of the team? RG3 is above playing in meaningless games because he might get hurt but the rest of the players aren't and can risk their season and careers? For someone so concerned about Griffin receiving preferential treatment, Shanahan doesn't seem to mind perpetuating that notion. I don't see how anybody could think this is in the best interest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRobP42 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 One of Shan's excuses for possibly sitting RGIII are the "synthetic turf" conditions in Atlanta and New Jersey. Yet we saw our franchise QB play in a freaking blizzard yesterday. Due to what he saw in the game against the Chiefs in those "freaking blizzard" conditions, he THEN used the excuse about synthetic field turf being a concern for Robert's safety. He didn't say he was worried about synthetic turf and THEN decide to let RG3 play in the freaking blizzard. You act like he's not allowed to be concerned for Robert's safety. Implying that the press conference he gave today "LIVE" was actually from before the Seattle game last year. But i think you still don't understand what i'm getting at … lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I don't understand the thoughtless logic some of you are using. Griffin plays and gets hurt, possibly seriously against Atlanta, and every single one of you would be ripping Mike a new one about starting him. Its amazing how narrow-minded some of you are; this just might not be a F-U Snyder move, it may very well be to protect Griffin from possible injury! But being the witch hunt is on, no point in talking to walls. You are telling the rest of the offense: you guys suck and can't be trusted to protect Griffin. Look if you are healthy and the best player at your position, you should play. It's a 16-game schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66skinsfan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm phychic. What can I say - Dec 6 the thread I started (was locked by mods) "Put in Kirk for the rest of the season"Shanny has it right. With 3 wins at this point of the season, Griffin has played his heart out, and is getting sacked often. Getting healthy through the off season is in the best interest of the team and Griffin. We have a good second string QB, put him in. I'll be rooting for the team with Griffin behind center next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Jeff Darlington @JeffDarlington 1h Ponder this: Report said Shanahan wanted to quit last year but realized he couldn’t after RG3 got hurt. This year? Considering shelving RG3. Jeff Darlington @JeffDarlington 1h You’re naive if you think Shanahan’s mindset to shelve @RGIII for rest of year isn’t a power play that has to do with Shanahan's own future. Jeff Darlington @JeffDarlington 16m It is safe to assume most of what Mike Shanahan says and does is part of a greater plan. It is not safe to assume exactly what that plan is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I am covering the Atlanta game this weekend, ugh. Sounded a little better in August.Shut up. YOU at least get a dome where it's warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCitySkin Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Has he decided on who's going to run the special teams next game to avoid potentially giving up more return touchdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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