EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I won't make this very long, but it's something that occurred to me during the Bears game andf has me far more worried for the upcoming game against Denver. I'm only posting this today because I may not have time later in the week. Obviously we want to keep the ball away from Holiday since I'm fairly certain that even John Fox himself could run one back for a TD on this ST unit. The problem is we don't have the power at the PK position to consistently kick the ball out of the back of the endzone, forcing us to squib on a regular basis to attempt to keep it from Holiday. So it leaves us in a position of pick your poison. Risk Holiday taking one (or more) to the house, or give Manning a short field over and over again? I also realize this is a problem that would be good to have, as kicking off many times in a game should mean we're putting up points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 When you have guys that consistently don't see the field everyweek, I will not understand the reasoning for letting a kick-off specialist like Potter go when that's both the last thing Kai is and our coverage units stand in the bottom three of the league.If we kick to Holiday even the once next week like we did to Hester then Burns wants publicly flogging on the sideline.Hail.*Edit* And give Moss the punt return job and maybe Swiss Army Niles the kick return role. Hell knows their both doing little else come Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 We were kicking the ball deep. Then Hester returned one. After that, we would kick deep if he was up and squib when he was back deep. The mile high air should help on the kickoffs. Won't help the punting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Honestly I don't know who's decision was to let go of Potter. right now I will take him over a lot of STs players because its almost a guarantee he will "tackle" the runner at the 20. Can we say this about anyone else on special teams? Having said this, if Kai can't kick the ball deep or out of the endzone in Denver every time, then he is a liability for every where else and for my money we MUST bring Potter in. We have been saying defense is the problem, offense has issues and special teams suck but I truly believe the one thing that has consistently hurt us is the special teams, not only by allowing TDs but the horrid field position they give the offense and the excellent on average Field position our opponents get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 man, that is going to be a big concern, but I'm worried tackling. If you noticed last night, it seemed that the Colts never let let Moreno and guys on the short stuff get extra yards. McCown went 14-20 against us with 2 td's... imagine what that witch wearing #18 will do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Maybe in the thin air Forbath can kick it out of the endzone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Maybe in the thin air Forbath can kick it out of the endzone? Yea, this has been mentioned a couple of times. I really hope he can. The irony is that the air there could also be an enemy. If the defense struggles as would be expected, just imagine them again a no-huddle, Manning-run offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpathHitchhiker Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Aside from the obvious things to be worried about (#18, #87, #88, #83, #80) I am most worried about our ST. No one is motivated on our special teams and it really shows. Serious question: have we gotten a kickoff return past the 30 yd line all season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I agree with GHH, you have all these guys that don't see the field... I think it is worth it to have a guy that is a touchback wizard--- especially with this coverage unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryMason Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Aside from the obvious things to be worried about (#18, #87, #88, #83, #80) I am most worried about our ST. No one is motivated on our special teams and it really shows. Serious question: have we gotten a kickoff return past the 30 yd line all season? It's cause we have Josh Morgan of all people as our kickoff returner. God knows why though. The guy doesn't even LOOK fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Redskins wont be able to return a single kickoff. Prater puts it in the stands on every kickoff. punt returns only lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 We really need to kick it away from Trinidon Holliday. He's like Brandon Banks, only 100X better. So I guess, not like Brandon Banks at all. I don't know where I was going with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Redskins wont be able to return a single kickoff. Prater puts it in the stands on every kickoff. punt returns only lol. Would anyone really be all that surprised if they purposely allowed us to return kickoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins4ever28 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 This may sound silly but there's some hs coaches that do it. Onside kick it every time, and yes I know this would never happen and I'm kinda joking here, BUT, think about it. Peyton is gonna get to midfield damn near every time anyway, prolly won't punt all day against that d. And also we won't risk a big rerun and the best part is we got a shot at recovering it. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 We really need to kick it away from Trinidon Holliday. He's like Brandon Banks, only 100X better. So I guess, not like Brandon Banks at all. I don't know where I was going with that. Banks is in the CFL playing for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. Even with their 5 yard halo, he still can't break one. I watched Hamilton play Toronto a week ago and he still gets nowhere on kicks or punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 kickoffs?! Our defense makes Josh McCown look like a god and you're worried about kickoffs?! I will be happy if we force Denver to punt once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs Ahead Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Cut Rocca, sign Potter, go for it on 4th. ST problems mostly fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfr3ek Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 They shouldn't fear Holliday. Rocca just needs to do a better job placing the kicks and getting more air under it to allow more time for everyone to get down field. Lets go ROCCA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Special teams is a big concern - but to be frank going up against Peyton Manning and their offense at home a week after they got beat around by the Colts and want to get that bad taste out of their mouth worries me a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 What's the NFL record for most TDs given up by ST in a single season? We've given up 4 in the last 3 games, which must put us on pace for some kind of ignominious distinction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 They shouldn't fear Holliday. Rocca just needs to do a better job placing the kicks and getting more air under it to allow more time for everyone to get down field. Lets go ROCCA!!!! Hester's TD was a beautiful punt. High, deep and on the sideline. Not Rocca's fault that Niles Paul couldn't make a tackle that most high schoolers make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hester's TD was a beautiful punt. High, deep and on the sideline. Not Rocca's fault that Niles Paul couldn't make a tackle that most high schoolers make. It almost looked to me like he hesitated b/c he didn't know if he was allowed to be the first to attempt the tackle after being out of bounds. Regardless, it's Hester, you take his ass down ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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