truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 More so than other defenses.... Willie Mcginest brought up an interesting point on Nfl Network. The reason Manning is having success is because he is throwing from a clean pocket 90% of the time. Willie brought up how his Patriots were able to stop Manning and make him look average by putting pressure on him. Our defense is built to stop Qb's like Manning(non-mobile). We have an elite defense in terms of turnovers, TDs, and sacks. I'd say part of the reason we have struggled is the mobile Qbs we have faced(Vick and Rodgers). I'm not saying we will in fact be able to stop them, but I think this is the type of defense we have built; one that relies on pressure rather than being stout. Edit: Our defensive performances have been great recently. We did in fact stop the Broncos offense (relatively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Kane Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Haha. Peyton would score so much, that the clock will break. Peyton in 3 step drops would murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Also, Manning has struggled against 3-4 defenses in the past like the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Kane Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Also, Manning has struggled against 3-4 defenses in the past like the Ravens. Yeah that means that they will spread us out and kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 If we can wreak havok I think we will slow Manning down in a couple of weeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 A lil early to be opening up the kool-aid tap again, ain't it? No one's defense is built to "stop" the Broncos offense. Our defense can hit him to try and throw off his rythem, no doubt, but it will be up to the seconday to keep him getting to his quick hits before the pressure gets to him. In all honesty, this may be one of those games we're going to need Griffin to go sportscenter in order to pull it off, because the Broncos are going to get at least 21 points in Denver. It's not about us being bad, its about giving them the respect that they're that damn good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 This defense isn't even built to stop the Washington Sentinels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 It's not drinking Kool aid it's being realistic. During our win streak last season our defense played admirably. We shut down the Giants in both games. There's no reason to believe our defense can't pick it up again after the bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSKINS Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Come on bra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfriedenthal Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 This defense is MAYBE built to beat Blaine Gabbert. We're putrid. With that said, we can get better, but let's not be unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The Skins defense under Gregg Williams in 2007 wasn't bad, but when we went up to New England that season, Brady and his backups hung 52 on us (ok, one of their TDs was a defensive one). The Broncos might have the best offense since that 2007 Patriots team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 We are top 5 in sacks. I'm curious how we are doing in qb pressures, but I'm sure we're up there. The one way to stop Peyton is to get pressure on him. Teams haven't been able to do that this year. I am betting we can fluster him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 It's not drinking Kool aid it's being realistic. During our win streak last season our defense played admirably. We shut down the Giants in both games. There's no reason to believe our defense can't pick it up again after the bye week. Lol, it's realistic that our defense is built to stop an offense that is on pace to obliterate the scoring record? There's plenty of reason to believe our defense won't pick it up. For one, Haslett won't bench who he needs to bench. Make Orakpo a pass rush specialist and have Jackson play 1st and 2nd down, and put Barnett in there over Fletcher. Won't happen because they are two of our big names, but they've both missed a ton of plays that needed to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 The Skins defense under Gregg Williams in 2007 wasn't bad, but when we went up to New England that season, Brady and his backups hung 52 on us (ok, one of their TDs was a defensive one). The Broncos might have the best offense since that 2007 Patriots team. That same record breaking offense of the 2007 Patriots was stopped by the Giants, who had a devastating pass rush. This Goes further in proving that a dynamic offense can be stopped by a prolific pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Anything can happen. Manning is too good to be stopped for 60 minutes. Best case scenario would be for the Broncos to think the game will be a cakewalk and get hit in the mouth for a quarter or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Could this thread please be locked and moved somewhere far out of public view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Lol, it's realistic that our defense is built to stop an offense that is on pace to obliterate the scoring record? There's plenty of reason to believe our defense won't pick it up. For one, Haslett won't bench who he needs to bench. Make Orakpo a pass rush specialist and have Jackson play 1st and 2nd down, and put Barnett in there over Fletcher. Won't happen because they are two of our big names, but they've both missed a ton of plays that needed to be made. The 2007 Patriots offense broke plenty of records. They couldn't do a thing vs the Giants defense that year. Both Manning and Brady have been proven to play poorly when they are being hurried/sacked. Why is it inconceivable to think our defense can't put pressure on Manning? Both Orakpo and Kerrigan are pro bowl players. We are also getting Jenkins back and Rob Jackson back, which will only improve our pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 The defense that is on pace to be one of the worst in history is built ideally to stop the QB that is on pace to have the best year ever? No. The redskins defense is nothing like the monster unit the giants unleashed in the post seasons during their recent superbowl runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Pace doesn't mean a thing. We had two poor games against great offenses this season that skew our stats. Our two poor games were also against mobile qbs. We played much better against the Lions and Raiders. There are also other factors affecting our defense. Time of possession is largely in favor of our opponents. The defense that is on pace to be one of the worst in history is built ideally to stop the QB that is on pace to have the best year ever? No. The redskins defense is nothing like the monster unit the giants unleashed in the post seasons during their recent superbowl runs. Monster Unit? Do a little research. Week 1 against the Cowboys they gave up 45 points and nearly 500 yards. Then week 2 they gave up 35 and 400 yards. They even gave up 24 points to us in week 3, which was their first win of the season. They were also on pace to be a terrible unit. Let me emphasize it's only week 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatankgough Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hopefully this defense will come out of the Bye week with a renewed energy and sense of urgency, better able to tackle consistently and with a solid and aggressive pass rush able to get to and if not sack, hit them enough to get inside their heads and make them inconsistent. That is the only chance we have of beating anyone much less the Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 In the postseason. Did you miss that part? In the 8 postseason games they played in 2007 and 2011 no team scored 21 points on them. Only two teams managed to score more than 17. I'd say that's pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 In the postseason. Did you miss that part? In the 8 postseason games they played in 2007 and 2011 no team scored 21 points on them. Only two teams managed to score more than 17. I'd say that's pretty damn good.To compare them in the postseason and us after 4 games is unfair. Teams DO improve throughout the season. Ravens fans actually hated Flacco middle of last season.The first basic premise of this thread: Teams with an elite pass rush have a far better chance of stopping Elite offenses. This has been proven throughout history. The second basic premise: The Redskins have an elite pass rush. They are top 5 in sacks, and are getting back 2 starting caliber players in the front 7. It's not inconceivable to believe we have an elite pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 To compare them in the postseason and us after 4 games is unfair. Teams DO improve throughout the season. Ravens fans actually hated Flacco middle of last season. You are comparing what the giants did in the Super Bowl to what the redskins are going to be facing in the regular season. I'm doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Our defense is built to stop Qbs like Manning(non-mobile). We have an elite defense in terms of turnovers, TDs, and sacks. This is the part I take umbrage with.  Here are the league stats on turnovers:  ^ Of our 6 turnovers - 4 were fumbles lost by the opponent, 2 were INTs. More importantly, of the 6 turnovers - 3 occurred against Oakland (1 INT, 2 fumbles), in other words ... HALF of our accumulated turnover stats against one opponent - the Raiders.  The INTs: 1. a Stafford misfire on a quick slant, miscommunication with WR, thrown right at Hall. 2. a poor throw by Flynn picked by Amerson who jumped a short drag route.  Best believe Manning 'aint Flynn. Manning has zero INTs so far this season.    We are not "elite" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truskinsfan18 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 We may not be elite in turnovers(we are still top 10), we are elite in pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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