Bobby Peppers Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Schefter reporting. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/06/report-bills-open-to-trading-jairus-byrd/ I'd give up a 4th for him. I know he's banged up but one of the best safety's in the league when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 If he can't yet play or even have his contract extended, it would be a huge gamble for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Kane Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 He's good but hurt. I might pass on that unless they would take a 4th or 5th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I woul imagine the bills are looking for more than a 4th right? Can we even fit him under the cap this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 He hasn't played yet. Â He's got a foot injury. Â And he wants a big contract. Â I'm not sure that it's worth the headache. Â And the roster spot for this year. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
520skins Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 With our luck he'd be another Merriweather..plus theres no way we could fit him under the cap this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I woul imagine the bills are looking for more than a 4th right? Can we even fit him under the cap this year? Yes to your first question. No to your second (is my understanding anyway). Great safety, would love for it to work, but it's not gonna happen. We don't need a pro bowl FS, we just need a decent one. Think it'll have to be an offseason move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 We don't need a pro bowl FS, we just need a decent one. We do indeed, need a Pro Bowl safety my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 We do indeed, need a Pro Bowl safety my friend. I would LOVE to have a ProBowl safety. Can we afford one? Can we afford to pay RG3,Orakpo, Trent, Kerrigan, etc. their fair market value while also paying a safety $9 mill/year? Byrd is currently earning franchise tag money and is unhappy about it. I don't see him taking a team friendly re-structure down the road. But, yes I love the idea of him playing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 We do indeed, need a Pro Bowl safety my friend. Need is a strong word. Not every good defense has a pro bowl FS. But as long as FS isn't an absolute liability we should be able to have a good defense. Right now it's a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAILSKINSNYC Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I've been saying this for weeks......Fred Davis for Byrd.....the Bills tried to sign Fred in the off-season.....Byrd is better then Davis, but Byrd is more damaged goods at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 All relative to what the Bills want.  If you could get him for a 5th or lower, then I make the call yesterday.  With him not playing since the last game of last season, and it being obvious the Bills are looking to ship and recoup anything they can as he won't be extended there, the ball should be in the buying clubs court.  Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 We do indeed, need a Pro Bowl safety my friend. No, we do NOT need a pro-bowl safety, we just NEED a defense that can tackle. We NEED to find out how we can get the offense of the first half snide. If we could tackle and at least have the offense play a first half with some compentency, we'd be sitting at 3-1 and maybe even 4-0 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 No, we do NOT need a pro-bowl safety, we just NEED a defense that can tackle. We NEED to find out how we can get the offense of the first half snide. If we could tackle and at least have the offense play a first half with some compentency, we'd be sitting at 3-1 and maybe even 4-0 right now. Maybe I'm dumb but I'll never pass up the chance of having a Pro Bowler at a position that we currently have none.  Silly me....  (Obviously this would be predicated on Byrd's health) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I would love this move if it could happen. No higher than a 4th though. Isn't he a free agent after this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 He is 28, hurt and expensive. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 As I understand it he has plantar fasciitis injuries on both feet. You don't see that everyday. Someone needs to introduce him to custom orthotics and advise that he stop buying discount cleats. The good news is that treatment and rest typically clear that injury up completely. Stress on rest, there is no way around simply waiting for it to heal. If they fix this footwear issue and he learns to stretch properly it should be recurring. This could be a situation where the skins consider trading Orakpo if they don't think resigning him will be something they want to pay. Both guys are going to need a new contract and the skins might have a greater need in the secondary right now with Rob Jackson coming back. I'm not an Orakpo hater but getting a probowl defensive back is big time value. He is 28, hurt and expensive. Pass. Espn says he's 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I'd offer a day 3rd pick for him and the bill's 4/5th. I'd tell Byrd he has a chance to earn next season if he plays well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I'm not big on trading for guys that are injured, but if it's just a 4th (which was thrown out there in the op), I'd do it, and see how things go. The Skins are going to have to play ball this offseason. Can't keep signing and drafting "Just A Guy" at safety. We've let go of two quality starters and haven't found adequate replacements. Sometimes you have to take risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatankgough Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 We have two young and talented guys in Phillip Thomas and Biccari Rambo. I don't understand why no one is patient enough to allow talent to develop on this defensive secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 He is the exact type of player to fit into our defense too. He is young and exactly what we need. We have good corners, but they need to play aggressively and they can't now because our safeties need to be protected. We can not come close to affording him currently, unless something drastic happens to Londons contract, but we certainly can next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gymratfwp Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 If we can get him on the cheap - 4th rounder or lower - I'm all for it. Certainly wouldn't hurt that's for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I'd trade Orakpo for him in a heartbeat. Probably would be win-win for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaLazarou Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Can we throw in Haz as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskin Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 As I understand it he has plantar fasciitis injuries on both feet. You don't see that everyday. Someone needs to introduce him to custom orthotics and advise that he stop buying discount cleats. The good news is that treatment and rest typically clear that injury up completely. Stress on rest, there is no way around simply waiting for it to heal. If they fix this footwear issue and he learns to stretch properly it should be recurring. This could be a situation where the skins consider trading Orakpo if they don't think resigning him will be something they want to pay. Both guys are going to need a new contract and the skins might have a greater need in the secondary right now with Rob Jackson coming back. I'm not an Orakpo hater but getting a probowl defensive back is big time value. Espn says he's 26.  Plantar fasciitis is very hard to clear up. Usually, it comes and goes, despite treatment. Many recommend stretching the calf muscles, increasing flexibility, controlling inflammation. Sometimes you can attempt steroid injections, but in my experience those don't work all that well. It'll be a recurrent problem, which you have to take into account if you consider trading for him. It also hurts like a mf.  It sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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