Gallen5862 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Starts a fillibuster. He stated at 240 Pm on Cspan2 thathe will talk as long as he is physically able to stand. He is talking about theFederal spending and Health care law. He is talking about obamacare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What bill is this in relation to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Oh, goody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 The banner on Cspan2 says it is the Federal Law and Health care law in regards to the Continueing Resolution to fund the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The banner on Cspan2 says it is the Federal Law and Health care law in regards to the Continueing Resolution to fund the government. Oh cool, he wants to keep talking until the government shuts down. Must see TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Hey, least he's got the guts to stand up in public and take credit/blame for what he's doing.  (Probably figures the publicity will help him get the Presidential nomination in 16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Senator Mike Lee (R-Utah) just joined the fillibuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Taking the Rand Paul glory route. Â Accomplish nothing, but rachet yourself up in popularity among the GOP base. Â Â Good move if you want to run for President. Â Â Bad move if you want to be an effective Senator - asi I understand it, Cruz's colleagues are really starting to loathe him. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS@THEGOALLINE Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013   Accomplish nothing, but rachet yourself up in popularity among the GOP base.      You Betcha !  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 CSPAN 2? So he doesn't want anybody to know he's doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 His goal is to make it to primetime on Fox tonight. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I blame Rand Paul. Â Now every idiot who disagrees with a bill thinks they should filibuster it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 @GlennKesslerWP RT @ezraklein: Cruz calls fact checkers a "particularly pernicious bit of yellow journalism that's cropped up." Â How dare they confirm if what you say is true or not!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Here's my favorite factoid about Ted Cruz, the man of the people.  Ted shocked people when during [his] first week [at Harvard Law School], he announced that he was creating a study group and only people with high GPAs from the Big Three Ivies could apply for admission. In short, Ted managed to come off as a pompous a**hole at Harvard Law which is an amazing accomplishment since the competition there for that description is intense   http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/me-ted  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I can't wait to move to TX to vote this guy out.  I do get one last chance to vote against Republicans in Virginia before I go. Yay!  The reason I say Republicans is because of the Republican party platform which is so anti-human as to be totally disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Taking the Rand Paul glory route. Â Accomplish nothing, but rachet yourself up in popularity among the GOP base. Â Â Good move if you want to run for President. Â Â Bad move if you want to be an effective Senator - asi I understand it, Cruz's colleagues are really starting to loathe him. Â Â Was reading an article about that earlier today. Cruz is definitely starting to get fellow R senators to turn their back on him. But you're right, its the Cruz Show right now, not the Republican Policy (is that even a real thing anymore?) Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I blame Rand Paul.  Now every idiot who disagrees with a bill thinks they should filibuster it.  Not really sure you can blame him for this.  The GOP decided the day Obama was elected that the path back to power was to unanimously filibuster every single bill that's more important than naming a post office, and then point their fingers at the Democrats and yell "They haven't accomplished anything!"  Now, I suppose that maybe, it was his idea. But somehow I don;t see him issuing marching orders to the rest of the GOP, and having them followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Not really sure you can blame him for this.  The GOP decided the day Obama was elected that the path back to power was to unanimously filibuster every single bill that's more important than naming a post office, and then point their fingers at the Democrats and yell "They haven't accomplished anything!"  Now, I suppose that maybe, it was his idea. But somehow I don;t see him issuing marching orders to the rest of the GOP, and having them followed.  I could be wrong, but I thought Paul was the first one to actually filibuster something in quite some time?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Was reading an article about that earlier today. Cruz is definitely starting to get fellow R senators to turn their back on him. But you're right, its the Cruz Show right now, not the Republican Policy (is that even a real thing anymore?) Show.  SOME fellow R senators are offended, I don't think he cares much.  I think I like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Otoh, Bill & Barack are talking healthcare on MSNBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Rand Paul (R Kentucky)Â just joined the Fillibuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Wow. Millions of Americans are going to find out that the Republicans want to kill Obamacare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Why don't the republicans just vote to defund Obamacare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Senator Pat Roberts (rKansas) joined the fillibuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Why don't the republicans just vote to defund Obamacare? They have. I think something like 75 times, by now. They've probably voted to defund Obamacare more times than they've investigated Bengazi. What they HAVEN'T done, is to come up with some kind of a deal that offers the Ds enough, to get it through the Senate. They refuse to bundle anything attractive to the Ds with their offer. (Granted, merely accusing a Republican of anything bipartisan is enough to get him defeated in the next primary. AND it would take one hell of a lot of honey, to get the Senate to go along with it.) Which leaves them with the tactic they've been trying for five years now. Wait till there's a threat to the country, which only both houses of congress can prevent, and then threaten not to allow the threat to be dealt with, unless the Senate complies with their demands. But the problem is, every time they've tried it, at the last minute, their polling data has come back and said "if you actually harm the country as part of some threat to kill Obamacare, then the voters are going to blame the party that actually used this threat to try to get their way". And they back down, and they wait a few weeks or months, and then they strap on the suicide vest, again, and yell "I mean it, this time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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