bulldog Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 from today's WP: Arrington and the Redskins' other linebackers have often taken a gambling approach this season, and he said yesterday that he wants to lead the way in fostering a more responsible mind-set. "I told my teammates I was going to be more focused and be more about my business," Arrington said. "It's been a little too loose around here. I think the guys need to focus on the little things, like our assignments and things like that. I'm focused on whatever needs to be done, I'm going to do. . . . I'm accountable. You've always got to look at yourself first. I've never been above looking at myself first. I don't look at other people and say, 'You should be doing better.' I look at myself and say, 'What can I do to make this team better and how can it be infectious toward the other guys?' I think I've changed my approach a little bit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 the little things.....'like the assignments'. hmmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Hey hey hey. There will no mention of anything positive around here. Don't you know this is a place for us to come and hang our heads and wallow in misery? jk :laugh: I'm glad to hear Arrington talking like this. I'll be more impressed if there is a noticeable difference on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I really don't want to hear any more quotes from LaVar. It's pretty obvious they didn't draft him for his intellect. How many years in the league has it taken to get to the point where he acknowledges 'assignments'? Jeez....how's the coaching staff supposed to deal with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 blah blah blah blah blah. Shut up and do it then. Dont just smack your lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Well Gaw-ly, I'll be darned.... IT's about freaking time you guys started paying attention to the "little things" like oh I don't know, guarding the running backs and tight ends!!!! I love ya LaVar, but DAMN you kill me sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by Tarhog the little things.....'like the assignments'. hmmmm...... No wonder Marvin Lewis was so frustrated with him last year. So much talent, so little discipline.:gus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 16, 2003 Author Share Posted October 16, 2003 Bulldog the 'pessimist' sees a change here the last couple of weeks Arrington has been frontrunning, talking about how the Skins were going to 'collect rent' and beat other teams, now he is talking about making strides to improve his own game. this is where his focus should have been all along. at 2-1 and 3-1 this team was feeling its oats. maybe now we can get the preparation and 60 minute effort out of everybody for a change. it has to start with the leaders on the team. David Terrell and Kevin Ware are not going to lead this team folks :laugh: it has to be Arrington, Bailey or one of the older vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by Kilmer17 blah blah blah blah blah. Shut up and do it then. Dont just smack your lips. There, that's better. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Hog Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 We are definately hearing all the things that you would want your players saying. That's the first step in translating talk into on-field success. Let's hope that it finally gets done for our sake and the team's sake this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 So, LaVar understands, now, how important certain assignments are? Gambling? WE DON'T WANT GAMBLING! We want discipline and a defense that's going to get the job done. All I gotta say is, stop talking already and win a this damn game for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidog22 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by GoSkins All I gotta say is, stop talking already and win a this damn game for us! Amen....GoSkins ...where do you usually watch the games? I'm in B-burg too, and we usually go to the Macado's in Radford on Sundays...80 cent domestic drafts, and 90 cent highballs....sweeeeet. The best part is that 90% of the people there are Skins fans too.....You should come on down, it's a really good time!!!! :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 The way I see it, the players ****ed and moaned last year about Lewis, they ****ed the year before about Marty, and Norv before that. At some point, the coaching isn't the problem. The players don't take responsibility for doing their jobs. Spurrier can yell and scream till he's blue in the face but the player's have to do it on the field. Sure, Spurrier can bench them and piss them off, others have tried that approach, but Spurrier seems to be trying something new, he's taking the bad rap for the players. These players at some point have to decide if they are men or not, they havet to decide if they want their coach constantly bailing them our of if they finally want to do what the coaches ask and be responsible on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 i have been getting tired of seeing the running backs and tight ends run open in the flats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Exactly, ORLskinsfan. I'm sick of the back being open like a 7-11. George, control your men, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by codeorama The way I see it, the players ****ed and moaned last year about Lewis, they ****ed the year before about Marty, and Norv before that. Have you heard any of the Dallas players ****ing about the Tuna? I haven't. Wonder why not? What will happen if they do? If a coach doesn't insist on discipline, most of the players won't play with discipline. A country club atmosphere usually doesn't produce a winning team. Players are just like other people, only a few of them hold themselves to a high standard. Self-discipline is rare in the general population, and it is not any more common among professional atheletes, particularly rich ones. So how does Parcells get away with yelling and screaming, and playing the tough guy, but Marty can't get it to work? How does Parcells get the respect and admiration of his players that some of his former players talk about? The difference is that Parcells is flexible and adapts his schemes to the players, whereas Marty wants everybody to play Martyball, even if he doesn't have the talent to make it work. Winning makes believers out of the players, and that gives the coach leeway to enforce discipline. And the jury is still out on Spurrier. Lets hope he is adaptable enough to modify his schemes to work in the NFL, rather than going down in flames trying to make his college methods work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HittinSkinz Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 assignments are not "LITTLE THINGS"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidog22 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by HittinSkinz assignments are not "LITTLE THINGS"!!! That may be the problem the team has had, thinking that they are just "little things":doh: :gus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by poidog22 Amen....GoSkins ...where do you usually watch the games? I'm in B-burg too, and we usually go to the Macado's in Radford on Sundays...80 cent domestic drafts, and 90 cent highballs....sweeeeet. The best part is that 90% of the people there are Skins fans too.....You should come on down, it's a really good time!!!! :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck If I'm not at home with my wife and 12-month-old boy, I'll go over to BW3's. A lot of guys from where I work go there almost every Sunday (haven't been there since the 2nd game of the season). It's hard to get away when I've got to chase a kid around while screaming at the television set. This weekend my in-laws are going to be here and my mother-in-law always seems to step in front of the television set at the WRONG moments. :mad: :puke: So, I might swing down there the weekend after the bye week. The Macados is beside that new Chinese restaurant that used to be Tea Garden, right? Hopefully, I'll have a new Ramsey Jersey by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Don't you guys remeber Wilbur Marshall's frustration with the way he was used by Ritchie Petitbon? How many years did it take before he earned a Pro Bowl under Petitbon? He was used to doing alot of free wheelin in the Bears 46. Was he a better defender under Petitbon, yes. Was he a better gamechanging playmaker, not for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 hmm.... I don't know about not gambling. It was gambling that allowed Armstead to get the sack/safety and perhaps won that game for us. Actually, I think that the LBs should be 'gambling' more, not less, but this DL is so weak that thay have to maintain lane discipline and cover for DL weaknesses, and that is preventing more big plays. Gambling in and of itself is not the issue. A lot of times it's linebackers making individual reads and reacting that can often lead to big polays and even turnovers. But with this DL, they have to stay home more than they probably should. So what might be a normal amount of risk-taking with a better DL is an issue with ours. In my view, the issue isn't so much Arrington being undisciplined per se, but that he has to have more discipline with the guys in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Hey, better late than never. Maybe it did take LA longer than it should have to get his head in the right place, but the important thing is it seems to be now. MidPennSkin, Parcells has several advantages over Spurrier now: One, he has much more experience dealing with NFL players. Two, he has won Super Bowls which gives him more instant respect from players than Spurrier gets coming from the NCAA. Three, he took over a team that had been at the bottom of the league for 3 years. That's an advantage because those players are so starved for success that they are willing to do almost anything Parcells wants in order to taste just a little success. They also all know that what they have been doing must have been wrong, so it isn't hard to convince them to buy into the new way of doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by Terry hmm.... I don't know about not gambling. It was gambling that allowed Armstead to get the sack/safety and perhaps won that game for us. Actually, I think that the LBs should be 'gambling' more, not less, but this DL is so weak that thay have to maintain lane discipline and cover for DL weaknesses, and that is preventing more big plays. Gambling in and of itself is not the issue. A lot of times it's linebackers making individual reads and reacting that can often lead to big polays and even turnovers. But with this DL, they have to stay home more than they probably should. So what might be a normal amount of risk-taking with a better DL is an issue with ours. In my view, the issue isn't so much Arrington being undisciplined per se, but that he has to have more discipline with the guys in front of him. Armstead getting that saftey was great, but that approach has cost us bigtime since then. The Jim Finns and Michael Pittmans of the world are killing us because of linebackers leaving them uncovered and I really don't think that has anything to do with the D-Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I disagree. It was LBs maintaining discipline and flowing to the ball that allowed the BUCs to use mis-direction and QB bootlegs to against the grain and hit the TE on those TDs last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Gamble more, gamble less, 3-4, 4-3, 4-6, bottom line is no matter what, someone will complain about it...LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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