Predicto Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So you may all have read that the fire season in California has come early and with a vengeance. The biggest one is the Rim Fire, which is to the west of Yosemite National Park. It is growing fast (over 100,000 acres so far) and engulfing the Hetch Hetchy basin. Here's some photos http://framework.latimes.com/2013/08/22/state-of-emergency-declared-in-wildfire-near-yosemite/#/0 So we get wildfires in California every year. Why is this particular fire bothering me? For the past decade, my family has joined up a half dozen other families (nearly all of our closest friends), and spent a week every summer at Camp Mather, which is San Francisco's family camp in the Sierras. Camp Mather occupies the buildings originally built to house the workers that erected the Hetch Hetchy Dam in the 1920s. Every year we would swim and hang out by the lake, hike to waterfalls and swimming holes, take the kids for horseback rides meet for meals in the big communal dining hall watch kids with no talent put on a talent show, catch frogs and snakes, sing around a campfire, play bocce ball, and lay around on our asses. It is my children's favorite place on the planet and I have more wonderful memories from there than I can count. Now, take a look at the map of the Rim Fire, which is zero point zero percent contained at this time. http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3660/ I am seriously bumming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 That sucks. That looks like an idyllic getaway spot. The fire is moving east and north, and it looks like Camp Mather is directly in the path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I've been here 3 years now, and have never gotten the chance to head to Yosemite. (Coordinators with other people always fell through). I hope there is something still left when i get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 I've been here 3 years now, and have never gotten the chance to head to Yosemite. (Coordinators with other people always fell through). I hope there is something still left when i get the chance. Don't worry, Yosemite Valley will be fine. This fire is on the far west side of Yosemite National Park, which is a huge park. There is a large mountain range of High Sierra granite rock between this fire and the scenic valley that you see in postcards. This isn't burnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I don't know...I think I'll take a hurricane over a fire. Thanks to heaven for keeping those at bay. Praying hard for your fave spot, Predicto. I am absolutely sure that it (sometimes) helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm way bummed out. The future Mrs. wants to get me out there to see it. That and from my brief travels out that way,(North of there),I can tell it's awesome country. That and though we are 150 miles driving and about 80 or so miles as the crow flies from the fire,the smoke has settled here. So bad folks around town are wearing masks. This is sad stuff "seeing" such wonderful country burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I hear you and know the feeling of a lost or damaged special place in nature that I loved to visit, but I'm thinking more of man-created messes. Little in life pleases me as much as being in the kind of setting and doing the kinds of things you described, P. My love of outdoors has played a huge role in my life as after growing up to adulthood in Alaska, I have traveled but chosen to live in OR/WA since then. I am greedy, and need relatively close proximity to mountains, all forms of bodies of water (including an ocean), and vast forests. My choices mean compromising on high temperatures and sunny days (among other things---and the weather isn't nearly as overcast/cold/wet as many people think in many places out here) but then you get acclimated, too. When I was doing the audio electronics career and had stores in So Or, P, I loved hitting Northern CA from Mt Shasta to the coast and the Redwoods. Never made it to that park, but it looks like my kind of "oboy! huge score!" It's sad you're watching it change like this, but I have to say I went from empathy to smiling in knowing that you had so many great times in such a fantastic setting. I don't know how devastating the fire will end up being, but maybe those good times there are not all behind you. We'll hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Couple of pics of the smoke here. I walked in from work tonight and it honestly smelled like I was right by a campfire. Man I feel for those fighting this beast. Here's what I should see when I walk out front of the house and look down the street at mid afternoon. Instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Here's the latest CNN update: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/26/us/california-yosemite-wildfire/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 I definitely sympathize with you, Predicto While my family hasn't spent as much time as yours at Yosemite, I have fantastic memories of vacations at that park. I hate to hear about this devastation, this totally sucks. It's been a terrible fire season up north as well. River activities on the Rogue River in southern Oregon have been essentially decimated by fires which stinks since we normally head up there to raft a few times. And now the heavy smoke from the fire on the Salmon river is killing our normal river activities on the Klamath where my parents' have a vacation house. We're thankful our river home isn't threatened like it was 7 year ago when we were evacuated and the fire came down directly across the river from us, but it's still been a rough season. Praying firefighters get this Yosemite fire under control soon though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 Update: looks like they *may* have saved Camp Mather. The fire was stopped literally at the edge of the camp, and swept around it to both sides. There is still a chance of a flareup but signs are good. Unfortunately, Mather rests on the edge of the valley to Hetch Hetchy, and now the fire apparently is threatening the primary source of San Francisco power and water. Hoo boy. Unfortunately for the residents of Berkeley, their summer camp was completely destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Amazing contrasting pics, PCS. And hopeful news about Mather, Predicto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 There are giant sequoias that have been their for millennia (some more than 2,000 years) that are being threatened now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 There are giant sequoias that have been their for millennia (some more than 2,000 years) that are being threatened now. I thought they were largely fire resistant? (one reason they are still around) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 I thought they were largely fire resistant? (one reason they are still around) Yeah, in general they are. However, this is a bigger, hotter fire than the ones they have evolved to deal with. A century of fire suppression has left a lot more tinder and leads to bigger and hotter fires. No one really knows if they can survive a fire like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Yeah, in general they are. However, this is a bigger, hotter fire than the ones they have evolved to deal with. A century of fire suppression has left a lot more tinder and leads to bigger and hotter fires. No one really knows if they can survive a fire like this. I hope so, the expert says they will be http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2013/08/yosemites_giant_sequoias.php "These two groves are precious resources that the public is concerned about, and rightly so, because they are amazing," Stephen C. Sillett told National Geographic. Sillett is an ecologist with Humboldt State University who specializes in tall trees....But Sillett said placing sprinklers around the sequoias in Yosemite isn't really necessary. "The main thing they are doing with sprinklers is appeasing the public, who are worrying about how ugly the area will look when they visit later and that some trees are going to die," he said. "The big trees are going to be fine," Sillett explained. "Smaller, weaker, non-giant sequoias will die, but it's not so much that they are protecting the trees." Sillett said full-grown sequoias are adapted to survive even the hottest wildfires. They have fibrous, fire-resistant bark that can grow up to two feet thick. Although fires can damage the biggest trees, they usually don't kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Hope they can save that campsite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 I hope so, the expert says they will be http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2013/08/yosemites_giant_sequoias.php That's good to read. I hope he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Whenever I get to thinking the north Georgia mountains are beautiful, I see pics like yours. :-) I have some great memories and pics of my own from the Stanley, Idaho area. You guys have a really good thing going out west. I really hope they can get this thing under control soon but it's not looking good right now. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Whenever I get to thinking the north Georgia mountains are beautiful, I see pics like yours. :-) I have some great memories and pics of my own from the Stanley, Idaho area. You guys have a really good thing going out west. I really hope they can get this thing under control soon but it's not looking good right now. :-( North Georgia Mountains are beautiful, but it's a different kind of beauty. It's softer and greener. The hills are older and more worn-down, but no less beautiful. California beauty is raw and oversized and spectacular. Both have their advantages. WHich is more beautiful? This? or this? The correct answer is both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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