OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 http://www.wftv.com/sports/2552858/detail.html Check this out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 lmao....that's what the dumbass fan gets. i bet he'd stay in the bleechers next time the game is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 cleotis--are you f-ing kidding me? The Nebraska player deliberately hit him AFTER THE GAME WAS OVER. That guy should be kicked off the team and have criminal charges filed against him. The fan also didn't seem to be posing any kind of threat to the Nebraska thug, so I don't see how you can make light of that incident. But maybe you think that OSU punk choking Sorgi was funny too, eh *******? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 What they didnt show was whether or not the fan taunted the player. Not that that is an excuse...this is every bit as sick as the OSU choke hold. Good thing that both universities will discipline (I hope!) the jerkoffs who did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I hear you Ghost - but the field is no place for "fans". Been guilty of it myself...running onto the field...but I never got in the face of an opposing player (like this fan was alleged to do). Nor would I have sued when I was on the field, hanging onto a goal post, and then had it fall on me when it broke. Either way, this is a sick act. Much like the OSU choke hold. Both universities, I hope, will step up and give out the discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbones Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Robert Reynolds was given a 1 game suspension for his chokehold, which was approved by Wisconsin and Barry Alvaraz as well as the Big Ten. I thought he should get more (I'm and OSU alum) but then thought of Marlin Jackson smashing a beer bottle over a guys head and getting a one game suspension. Also Rod Rutherford of Pitt beating his GF and getting held out one series and just realized accountability is not present in college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Fans are warned repeatedly not to go on the field but I think that Nebraska player acted cowardly. I saw a similar incident last year when Marshall beat Toledo. UGLY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 It's funny, but while my head knows it's wrong, I love the deterrent effect kicking into action. What do you bet that's one college lesson that fan won't forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I don't know red. In that situation, it doesn't seem that there's any REAL difference between that fan and a security guard, assistant coach or equipment manager. In any of those cases, the person was caught unawares by a punch to the face, which could have serious consequences(one guy had a stroke out here in seattle after getting sucker punched, and he was a teenager) when he did not pose a physical threat to the thug who slugged him. What if the Nebraska scum had punched an equipment manager in the face like that? Would it be funny? I also never got this thing of fans being a threat after the game. Would a guy punch an opposing team's player in the face after a loss? No? Well, then you can't punch a fan either unless you're in danger. It reminds me of that jerkoff hockey player who beat a guy senseless after he ran onto the ice(he may not have even gotten that far and it wasn't during the action.) It's one thing to tackle and subdue some dipwad disturbing the event, it's another to land a flurry of blows to a man's skull who doesn't have the benefit of helmets or pads to cushion the impacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Like the Yankees players did to that grounds crew person ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I'm operating on the assumption the fan mouthed off and provoked him - something the fan himself wouldn't deny doing. It's not justice under the law, but it's poetic justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 i'm not saying it was the right thing to do. but it wouldn't have happened if the guy wasn't on the field. i've also seen fans get sucker punched and run over as the players run off the field in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Stay in your seat cheer then exit the stadium problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Message... Fans, stay off the field. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Seems there's a bit of a testosterone factor at work here in painting this as something acceptable. That the fan was in the wrong place and probably being a drunken ass is not at issue or THE issue ... fact is, you're not allowed to go around sluggin drunken assholes in the face simply for being drunken assholes. People reading about it or even standing around in the heat of the moment may cheer you for it, but that makes it no less wrong. The player assaulted someone. He should pay the same price you or I would if we did the same thing to a drunken ******* that happened to cross our paths outside a bar, after we'd maybe had a bad day at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I'm not saying it was ok for him to punch him in the face, but fans are not allowed on the field, but bars and streets are open to the public. So that's not a fair comparison. The fan was somewhere he shouldn't have been, sure the reaction was a bit too harsh, but it's not the same as being in a bar or on the streets. If I run on to a baseball or football field, I would expect someone to tackle me and arrest me, sure, a punch to the face is a bit much, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I agree with all the posters who blame the Fan! as a football player at the U of A i had a moron fan get in my face as we exited the field after a close loss and tell me to get my indian a55 back to the reserve! If my teammates hadnt pushed him away i would have taken measure into my own hands, Fans have to realise that we are not like normal people if you come into my office (the field) and get in my face its the same as if i go into your office work and get disrespectful the difference being my office is filled with aggression and violence! Stay off the field until the players have left and then your drunken idiocy can be given free reign. but as for charging him with assault thats idiotic, the reality is we expect football players to play with aggression and a disregard for personal safety then are surprised when it spills over. The fan had no bussiness being on the field and got what he had coming . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 and im gonna double post till i get rid of this gross kicker eeew. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 That's what should've happened to Don Zimmer! Old fart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Splitting hairs, code. Okay, forget the street. A guy walks into your place of work and acts like an ass. Are you justified in crushing his face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 yes Om people today get away with being disrespectful far too often im not saying return to the caveman days but a little negative reinforcement might be what society needs! what is more likely to influence you the harsh words of people you obviously dont care about or you wouldnt be disrespecting them anyway or a good shot to the mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 as a side note if a guy like skinswin was accntable for his actions and words do you think he would have been a little less prickish? if rather than harsh words over the net DH pulled a jay and silent bob and went to his residence and gave him the owie face i think he would have gotten the point a lot sooner that its wrong to disrespect someone if you cant back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 cheap shot plain & simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Guess we just see the world a little different, Ryman. In my view, what the football player did to the guy who was admittedly where he didn't belong wasn't "a little negative reinforcement." It was criminal assault, and he should face the full weight of the local law for it. It wasn't the football's player's place - nor yours, nor mine - to try to teach society a lesson about not being a drunken ******* by inflicting what could easily be permanent, life-altering medical and/or psychological damage on the guy. Takes a bigger man to walk away from a drunken ******* than it does to go caveman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Om, I'm in complete agreement with you. What the heck is up with you people talking about "fans belong off the field." You honestly going to tell me that if Troy State upsets Oklahoma or someone like that, their fans shouldn't tear down the goalposts? Are you guys even football fans??! And look at the video, the guy was running and pointing at the Nebraska thug, but he his path was PAST the player--that means he posed no threat and was going to run BY the guy anyway. The punch was unnecessary. It's not even like some guy ran up into his FACE and blocked his path--then some of you would be justified in what you're saying. But the video proves the Nebraska player WENT OUT OF HIS WAY to punch the guy in the face. That is inexcusable and criminal. Fans, like it or not, are going to get on the field for huge wins for their team---if you can take abuse from the stands and low-speed car wreck impacts on the field, why can't you take someone talking a little smack to you closer up until you get off the field? Some of you guys are surprising me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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