***2021-2022 NBA Season Thread***

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

15 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Glowing review for tonight's Celtics/Lakers 30 for 30.  I'm on it.

 

http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/epic-celtics-lakers-rivalry-inspires-one-best-30-3-256603

 

That was a terribly uncompetitive period of basketball, which no one likes.

 

What would have been 80s basketball great is a few Kansas City Kings appearances in the Finals. Otis Birdsong was the James Harden of that decade.

Edited June 14, 2017 by Lombardi's_kid_brother

[Warhead36]

42 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said:

 

That was a terribly uncompetitive period of basketball, which no one likes.

 

What would have been 80s basketball great is a few Kansas City Kings appearances in the Finals. Otis Birdsong was the James Harden of that decade.

Has the NBA ever really been competitive? Its always been 2 maybe 3 teams fighting for a title and everyone else essentially playing for second place.

[Llevron]

Ya know, this whole super team thing wouldn't be so bad if the playoffs went from best of 7 to a seeded competition like march madness. I know thats crazy talk but it just occurred to me how much fun that would have been this season. 

[Bozo the kKklown]

Just now, Llevron said:

Ya know, this whole super team thing wouldn't be so bad if the playoffs went from best of 7 to a seeded competition like march madness. I know thats crazy talk but it just occurred to me how much fun that would have been this season. 

i agree

 

I would even go further and just remove conferences and divisions. Have teams play as close an even schedule as possible and then seed them.

 

 

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Just now, Llevron said:

Ya know, this whole super team thing wouldn't be so bad if the playoffs went from best of 7 to a seeded competition like march madness. I know thats crazy talk but it just occurred to me how much fun that would have been this season. 

 

That would have been truly awful.

 

March Madness is awesome in large part because of how stupid it is. It's probably the absolutely worst way in the world to choose a champion, but it's fun and it's incredibly easy to gamble on.

 

The 86 Celtics had 5 Hall of Famers - Bird, Parish, McHale, Johnson, and Walton.

 

The 86 Celtics had two additional players who made All Star teams in their career - Wedman and Ainge.

 

And they had the number two pick in the upcoming draft.

 

Steve McQueen would have been demanding a protest on the Mall following that season.

[Llevron]

Yea but I dont want to watch the Warriors win for the next 3 seasons. But if I knew they could lose any game and have to try again next year I would probably watch every game. 

 

I know its a dumb idea im just saying dumb ideas work on me i guess lol

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

28 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

i agree

 

I would even go further and just remove conferences and divisions. Have teams play as close an even schedule as possible and then seed them.

 

 

 

That I would actually get on board with. The NBA already makes divisions nearly pointless. In an era, where all these teams travel by private jet, stay at 5 star hotels, and have sleep specialists on staff, an east/west divide is largely pointless. Even the schedule and just seed 1 through 16.

 

The only thing remotely impacted would be the All-Star Game and there are endless variations on how you can create teams there. (Random, Captains pick, US vs International, By vote totals, Over 30 versus Under 30).

 

The bottom line comes back to what I said weeks ago (which I stole from LeBatard), the NBA always gives you the most predictable outcome in the least predictable manner. The only thing that really ever impacts things is injuries. Even when a player goes from good to great over the course of a year, it's usually the NEXT season where that impact actually changes things.

 

One of the amazing things about the Warriors is how quickly they went through every stage of NBA life. They were a 23-win team in 2012. They immediately jumped to middle of the pack and stayed there for two years. And then they went to all-time great champion.

 

Steve Kerr's all-time winning percentage is .841 and that will probably go up next year.

 

Phil Jackson and Pat Riley were both at .730 in their best eras.

 

(I do want to see one year of a fully integrated/completely comfortable KD with this Warriors team. Next year's regular season should be interesting to see if this playoff dominance carries over and if they can approach 70 wins again. Assuming they win again next year, that may be the point where I lean towards, "OK....enough's enough." But I actually think the cost of all this is going to become a factor sooner than everyone else thinks).

 

[Kosher Ham]

Was last year fixed for Cleveland? 

[Llevron]

19 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said:

Was last year fixed for Cleveland? 

 

Totally 

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

26 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said:

Was last year fixed for Cleveland? 

 

Until Game 5, there really wasn't that big of a difference between the Finals this year and the Finals last year.

 

Last year, it was two GSW routes at home, followed by a split in Cleveland that featured one big Cavs win and one hard fought Warriors win. If anything, the first four games were MORE competitive this year. It's just that GSW won game 3 which feels like a much bigger deal than winning game 4.

 

Games 5, 6, and 7 happened last year because;

 

1. Steph was clearly hurt/worn out.

2. Draymond lost his damn mind

3. Harrison Barnes forgot how to play basketball.

 

Cleveland is the team best positioned in the league to take advantage of self-inflicted wounds by the Warriors. It's just that with Durant, the margin for error on GSW's side is so much bigger now.

[Sticksboi05]

22 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said:

 

1. Steph was clearly hurt/worn out.

2. Draymond lost his damn mind

3. Harrison Barnes forgot how to play basketball.

 

Cleveland is the team best positioned in the league to take advantage of self-inflicted wounds by the Warriors. It's just that with Durant, the margin for error on GSW's side is so much bigger now.

 

Also Andrew Bogut, their best rim protector went down with injury.

[justice98]

1 hour ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said:

 

That would have been truly awful.

 

March Madness is awesome in large part because of how stupid it is. It's probably the absolutely worst way in the world to choose a champion, but it's fun and it's incredibly easy to gamble on.

 

The 86 Celtics had 5 Hall of Famers - Bird, Parish, McHale, Johnson, and Walton.

 

The 86 Celtics had two additional players who made All Star teams in their career - Wedman and Ainge.

 

And they had the number two pick in the upcoming draft.

 

Steve McQueen would have been demanding a protest on the Mall following that season.

 

When people talk about super teams in 2017 being the end of the world, I always think of ALL the super teams from yesteryear.  The Celtics shoulda copyrighted (copywritten?) the phrase multiple times in their history.

 

If I accepted the concept of super teams though, but I dont.

Edited June 14, 2017 by justice98

[CrypticVillain]

2 hours ago, Llevron said:

Ya know, this whole super team thing wouldn't be so bad if the playoffs went from best of 7 to a seeded competition like march madness. I know thats crazy talk but it just occurred to me how much fun that would have been this season. 

I've been saying this for YEARS!!!

[CrypticVillain]

2 hours ago, Llevron said:

Ya know, this whole super team thing wouldn't be so bad if the playoffs went from best of 7 to a seeded competition like march madness. I know thats crazy talk but it just occurred to me how much fun that would have been this season. 

I've been saying this for YEARS!!!

 

Actually, that's not what I've been saying. lol

I've been saying there needed to be a 1-16 seeded team.

 

Round 1 would have been:

GS  vs CHI

SA vs POR

HOU vs IND

BOS vs MIL

CLE vs MEM

UTH vs ATL

TOR vs OKC

LAC vs WSH

 

That would be great to see...

[Dont Taze Me Bro]

15 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Is there anything drastically different about 3v3 vs 5v5? I mean besides the fewer players. Do they only play halfcourt? 1 points and 2 points instead of 2 and 3? What's the deal? I mean you have volleyball and beach volleyball but they're both completely different sports and beach volleyball actually has a thriving competitive scene(in fact it might be more popular than indoor 6s now).

 

FIBA rules that it will follow:  http://www.fiba.com/documents/2016/01/29/3x3 Rules of the game 2016 text.pdf

[CrypticVillain]

30 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

FIBA rules that it will follow:  http://www.fiba.com/documents/2016/01/29/3x3 Rules of the game 2016 text.pdf

I was starting to get excited about this, now I'm even more excited.

 

I want to know how qualifying will go to see who reps the USA.

[skinsfan1523]

 

[Llevron]

Stop it lol

[Momma There Goes That Man]

30 minutes ago, Llevron said:

Stop it lol

 

He can't lol

[Fergasun]

I see talk upthread about a NCAA like tournament... how about some type of European-soccer like relagation system?

 

Get rid of conferences/divisions as we know then.. Top 20 teams are the upper half, bottom 12 are the lower..

 

After the season the top 16 teams are seeded and go through existing playoffs... the bottom 4 and top 4 of the lower division have a playoff with the remaining 4 staying in the upper division.

 

You could probably work something out where the top 2 in the lower divisions.get the.15th and 16th seeds..

 

This would put 24 teams in meaningful playoffs (and the schedule could end the lower playoffs before the conference finals).

 

I just thought of this and I am in love with the idea... 

[justice98]

3 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

I see talk upthread about a NCAA like tournament... how about some type of European-soccer like relagation system?

 

Get rid of conferences/divisions as we know then.. Top 20 teams are the upper half, bottom 12 are the lower..

 

After the season the top 16 teams are seeded and go through existing playoffs... the bottom 4 and top 4 of the lower division have a playoff with the remaining 4 staying in the upper division.

 

You could probably work something out where the top 2 in the lower divisions.get the.15th and 16th seeds..

 

This would put 24 teams in meaningful playoffs (and the schedule could end the lower playoffs before the conference finals).

 

I just thought of this and I am in love with the idea... 

 

You would still need conferences and divisions to exist just for travel purposes.  

17 hours ago, skinsfan1523 said:

 

 

Postseason net efficiency. I dont even know what that means.  

[Bozo the kKklown]

3 minutes ago, justice98 said:

You would still need conferences and divisions to exist just for travel purposes.  

its 2017, you don't.

[TradeTheBeal!]

27 minutes ago, justice98 said:

 

 

 

Postseason net efficiency. I dont even know what that means.  

 

It means LeFraud's opponents weren't hand-checked.

[Hersh]

12 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

It means LeFraud's opponents weren't hand-checked.

You mean being able to clothline opponents would make a team less efficient?? 

 

This need by some to justify GS or LeBron is humorous. 

 

[Warhead36]

The East was WAY tougher back then though. Jordan had to get through the Bad Boy Pistons, Ewing's Knicks, Miller's Pacers etc. Who has Lebron's biggest foe been in the East? An old and worn out Celtics? The charmin soft Pacers?