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***2019-2020 NBA Season Thread***


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22 minutes ago, Destino said:

The Lakers needed a point guard that can shoot and defend, more than an assist guy.  Lebron, Boogie, and AD can all hit threes, but they really just want to take wide open looks.  Not the sort that really space the floor.  Rondo doesn’t even need to be checked at the three line.   

 

The point guard market was pretty bad this offseason.  We're at the bottom of the barrell by this point in free agency, and Rondo might be the best they can do.

 

They should be on the look out for anyone young who is mildly promising that might get cut.

5 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

I can’t stand Melo but the lakers would

be smart to see if he is interested. He could provide some valuable shooting off the bench, which I think is his only value at this point. Maybe playing with his buddy Lebron will put his head right to just do that and shut up.  

 

I don't know, the Lakers are gearing up for a championship run.  There have got to be better options out there.  The league is full of 6'7-6'8 gunners who don't play defense.  The Lakers should at least find someone who is in shape.

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Listening to how active Kawhi was in recruiting for the Clippers, he didn't really want to stay in Toronto or go to the Lakers.  He played them off the Clippers to get the Clippers to pull the trigger on that Paul George trade.

 

Kawhi is a genius.  But damn, he is ruthless.  He's got a future as an NBA GM.

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4 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

1.) Its Summer League, not preseason

 

2.) Its likely precautionary which is what they shouldve done in the first place. No way he shouldve gone out there that overweight

 

My bad, I thought I read that it was preseason, too.

 

I agree, they shouldn't have let him out there last night that overweight.  I can't get over that he puffed up like that 3 months after his last college game though.  I get the awards buffet circuit but...damn man.  Don't gotta go back up for seconds.

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25 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

My bad, I thought I read that it was preseason, too.

 

I agree, they shouldn't have let him out there last night that overweight.  I can't get over that he puffed up like that 3 months after his last college game though.  I get the awards buffet circuit but...damn man.  Don't gotta go back up for seconds.

 

he looked chunky his senior year of high school, then he looked completely ripped once Duke got a hold of him. If NO has good people around him, they should be able to manage it properly

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30 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

Tell me more about fat Zion. I missed the game. How fat are we talking here?

 

like button popping out of his tailored suit and taking an eye out.

 

Looks about 10 pounds overweight at least, which would probably make him like 290-ish, at what has to be barely 6'7

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So... How is what Kawhi did with Paul George not an egregious tampering violation?  It's one of the most destabilizing things a player has done in a long time. I can't see how the league can continue to allow the mess that happened to the Pelicans and Thunder to go on moving forward.  It literally threatens the viability of NBA basketball in the smaller markets.

 

I also don't understand why nobody has questioned how the Warriors have been able to sign so many of their players to way below market deals over the past seven or eight years.  How has nobody looked into them yet and exposed what they're doing?  How is it being tolerated by their competitors?

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10 hours ago, Hersh said:

I don’t see how that roster works. Maybe have Rando and Cousins off the bench? 

 

I think they actually did a decent job with it, considering they had nothing.  They've got a crapload of shooters, which is what everybody wanted.  Dudley can shoot, Cook can shoot, Green can shoot, Daniels can shoot.  That whole second column really is shooters, plus Caruso.  Horton Tucker is a rookie, but known for his defense, Javale can defend.

 

I dont worry so much about who starts and who doesn't, it's the minutes that count.  They'll figure out a rotation that gets the best mix. 

 

But as it is, you could run out Rondo, Green, Lebron, AD, Cousins.  Then, Cook, KCP, Dudley, Kuzma, and McGee behind them.  There's your 10 man rotation.  It definitely can work, just gotta figure it out and tweak it as necessary.  

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2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

So... How is what Kawhi did with Paul George not an egregious tampering violation?  It's one of the most destabilizing things a player has done in a long time. I can't see how the league can continue to allow the mess that happened to the Pelicans and Thunder to go on moving forward.  It literally threatens the viability of NBA basketball in the smaller markets.

 

I also don't understand why nobody has questioned how the Warriors have been able to sign so many of their players to way below market deals over the past seven or eight years.  How has nobody looked into them yet and exposed what they're doing?  How is it being tolerated by their competitors?

 

An unrestricted free agent tampering is a new complaint I never heard of.  

 

You cant really stop players from making requests.  What are we gonna do, make it against the rules for unrestricted free agents to make requests of a front office or talk to other players?  

 

I guess people want the power dynamic to shift back to the hands of the teams, rather than with the players.  I mean, you make the league about individuals and stars, what did people think was gonna happen?  

 

The only reason the deal got made was the Clips were managed well such that they even had the assets to part with, and the willingness to part with them, to make it happen. That's a management issue, rather than small market/large market.  Without that, Kawhi is probably still in Toronto and PG is still in OKC.  

 

I dont think the Pelicans and Thunder examples really help your argument.  In these cases, the smaller markets make out ok in that they enjoy the benefits of a star, that star leaves, but they get a haul of assets in the process with which to replenish.  I mean, the Pelicans are better on paper today parting with AD than they were a year ago.  And the Thunder were middling with PG and Westbrook.  They're about to have 8000 first round picks if Westbrook gets shipped out.  There's worse situations to be in.

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1 minute ago, justice98 said:

I dont think the Pelicans and Thunder examples really help your argument.  In these cases, the smaller markets make out ok in that they enjoy the benefits of a star, that star leaves, but they get a haul of assets in the process with which to replenish.  I mean, the Pelicans are better on paper today parting with AD than they were a year ago.  And the Thunder were middling with PG and Westbrook.  They're about to have 8000 first round picks if Westbrook gets shipped out.  There's worse situations to be in.

 

It's paying off small market teams to keep them quiet about egregious violations of tampering rules that do lasting harm to their franchises, but they are still being held hostage and the net effect is they lose their superstar players and are turned into farm systems for other organizations.

 

What Kawhi did was recruit a player already under contract with another team and convince him to ask for a trade to the team Kawhi wanted to go to.  That is hugely unethical.  No, it is not ok for free agents to recruit players under contracts with other teams onto the ones they are trying to sign with.  Recruiting other free agents is one thing, but they should not be allowed to tamper.  Players who engage in team building should absolutely have to follow the same rules as the teams themselves.

 

The NBA is going to have to address this problem in their next CBA negotation, because it is very destabilizing and damaging to the league as a whole.  They're going to have to create harsh punishments for doing what Kawhi did, not fines, but suspensions.  Long suspensions.  And they're going to have to reform the way agents work as go-betweens to recruit for their star clients when they're under contract with separate teams and ban unethical agents like Rich Paul from doing business with the league.

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