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      In today's Divisional Debacle, the Defense under Greg Manusky in the first half, gave up 207 yards of offense (105 rushing/102 passing) and two touchdowns.  That said, they did manage a single INT on which the Offense actually managed to score a touchdown off of. They allowed 12 of 16 passes to be completed . 
       
      In the second half it was 107 yards given up (58 rushing//49 passing) a field goal and a touchdown. They traded their first half pick for a second half sack. However, Dallas completed all five of their pass attempts. 
       
      Don't read that thinking "Well it seems like they tightened up some in the 2nd half."  They didn't. They simply had about half the plays in the second half. 30 plays in the First and 18 in the Second.
       
      So far in two Divisional matchups, the Defense has faltered in the Second half. They start out like a house of fire for the first few drives until their opponents gradually make adjustments. This Defensive coaching staff fails make any adjustments, whether in game or at the very least at Halftime. They've given up over 30 points per game for a total of 63 points given up in two games. While the Bears are up next, the Pats await and they've put up over 70 points in two games. Yeah. Ok. They did shut out the Dolphins today which is looking like the NFL version of ... ahem... shooting fish in a barrel. 
       
      The frustrating thing is Manusky is the DC that the Front Office actively looked to replace during the off season without firing him. When you know they're looking to replace you, most people would make a concentrated effort to show an improvement. Yet Manusky's Defense still keeps acting like it's starring in Groundhog Day.
       
      In his post game presser, when asked directly about if any coaching changes would be made, Gruden said "No, I think after two games – you’re talking about playing two very good offensive football teams and two of the best offensive lines in pro football we just played back-to-back. That’s no excuse whatsoever, but I don’t think we need to hit the panic button yet. We just have to continue to focus on what we can do better to win. Get Jonathan [Allen] in here, get a couple of our corners back in here and let’s go back and strap it up against Chicago [Bears] next week and see what happens.” 
       
      Here's another frustrating thing. The defensive communication was an issue last season as well. Wasn't this supposed to have been worked on during OTA's and Training Camp? It's understandable that the rookies would still be on a learning curve, but NFL vets like Collins and DRC you'd think they would have down by the start of the season. 
       
      Gruden said they're a very talented group on Defense but that they weren't reaching them. When questioned as to why the coaching staff that has been in place for several years, wasn't reaching them, he defended the comment as them being a young defense. “We have some moving parts now. Landon Collins is a veteran guy but this is his first year, [Montez] Sweat’s in his first year, [Cole] Holcomb, it’s his first year, [Jon] Bostic is in his first year. We’re playing Dominique [Rodgers-Cromartie] at corner and this is Jimmy Moreland’s first year, so it’s not like we are the most experienced group. We feel like were very talented, but we`re still fighting through somethings. There are a lot of things to look forward to, without a doubt, but we do have to play better and strap it up and get back to work."

       
       
       
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The Official ES Redskins Name Change Thread---All Things Related to Changing the Team's Name Go Here

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To all the posters on here that think that the name Redskins is racist and think we should change the name.  I have two questions for you:

 

1.  Do you own any Redskins merchandise (jerseys, hats, car flags, car magnets, stickers, t-shirts, etc.)?

2.  Do you wear/show any Redskins merchandise out in public or at all for that matter (wear a tshirt/hat, have a car plate, etc.)?

 

If the answer is yes to any of the above questions, then you are all hypocrites.  Because by your own logic, you are supporting a racist term by purchasing merchandise with a "racial slur" on it.  If you wear or flaunt any of said merchandise, then you don't care about the feelings of Native Americans that you are claiming to defend, because if you did, you wouldn't take the chance that one might find it offensive if you crossed paths in public.

 

You either think its a racist term or you don't, no in-between.  You can't claim that its offensive and racist but think it's ok to wear a jersey on game day because you are "supporting the team/players" and not the team name.  There isn't a switch.

im confused by this statement

what if a person has gotten educated on the name and learned that it offends people? There was a time when it was perfectly fine for us to have 2 separate bathrooms for each race. Does a person who entered a whites only bathroom as a younger person, but now is bothered by it and wants it changed, does that make them a hypocrite?

You're right. If it was 50-50, of course a name change would be warranted. But most, if not all, factual documentation says it's not.

we dont really have any factual evidence either way.

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So why do people keep saying that Redskins is just as bad as the N-word, darkie, etc,?

 

People that do that are either speaking from ignorance, or being intentionally misleading.

 

I would say most people using that argument fall in the former.

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You're right. If it was 50-50, of course a name change would be warranted. But most, if not all, factual documentation says it's not. 

Please change your post. Rod Gardner is offended.

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"Our identity and heritage"

what about Native American peoples identity and heritage?

Look at this image, for goodness sake

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its a joke.

 

Now, I don't know what that Native American gentleman is thinking, but in that moment, I'd bet money he's not thinking "Well, this is respectful of my heritage."  

 

What team is that dude even trying to represent?  

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A warrior is good at war (read: killing people). Nope, not offensive at all!

We owe our freedom to warriors. Our warriors go to war ONLY when ordered to by elected officials.

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Maybe someone knowledgeable with law can help me understand this. If we lost the trademark before in 1999, then appealing it, having it overturned by the courts, why aren't there any protections for the team that prevents this again?  Why can they keep on doing this if we won the appeal the first time?

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At one point (2000) they did.

 

But you completely missed my point. I said if a team was called the Alabama Darkies you will NEVER see a poll with 90% of African Americans finding it offensive. Not in 2000, not in 2014, NEVER.

 

Actually it was more recent than that. That poll was done in 2004 (unless I'm reading wrong).

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Coming from overseas makes not a lick of difference to preserving our identity as I see it. Unintentionally, that is an insulting line.

 

You know what else might be unintentionally insulting...

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 If they go with "The Americans" they could technically keep the native american logo. That might actually be kindof fun.  

 

I love this idea!

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Your wife wakes up one day and decides to change her name, hair color, colored contacts, how she dresses. She is still your wife. Same memories, same personality, same mannerisms. Does your love for her change in any way at all?

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Just as a big "F YOU", I think we should change our name to Red Men, and throw up this as our mascott: RF-Graphic-from-DrawShop-Indian-chief-sm

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Now, I don't know what that Native American gentleman is thinking, but in that moment, I'd bet money he's not thinking "Well, this is respectful of my heritage."  

 

What team is that dude even trying to represent?  

Based on the names, the Cleveland Indians

 

CHANGE THE NAME!!!

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Do you, by any chance, talk about football with any of them? If so, do you use the term, "Redskins?"

 

Though not directed towards me,I'll answer this question as well. Yes. Yes I do. Hard not to do so with some members of the local branch of the Washoe considering they're Washington Redskins fans as well.  Or in a few cases getting ribbed because they're Niners fans. In my 31 years outside of the Washington D.C. area,only once have I ever had someone say something about the Redskins name. It was 3 years ago in Park City and it was a 30ish white guy who said it. Hell I lived South Florida for 4 years and 25 in Utah and never had an issue. Few members of the UTE population in Utah had their Washington Redskins hats was about as much play as I got out of the name there. Well there was the one time the one very much activist member of the Utah Ute population gave me some crap about the Redskins back in like 94. Worked for my brother at the time. He was a Raiders fan and man he just loved giving my brother and **** about THAT Superbowl. Sigh.....oh.... He could care less about the name. 

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Your wife wakes up one day and decides to change her name, hair color, colored contacts, how she dresses. She is still your wife. Same memories, same personality, same mannerisms. Does your love for her change in any way at all?

It shouldn't, but I can't be mad at anybody if they did...

 

But if you (not you, just in general) love your wife as much as you love your football team, that is a whole different level of problems right there lol

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Just as a big "F YOU", I think we should change our name to Red Men, and throw up this as our mascott:

 

//removed picture

 

That's the last thing we should do.

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Your wife wakes up one day and decides to change her name, hair color, colored contacts, how she dresses. She is still your wife. Same memories, same personality, same mannerisms. Does your love for her change in any way at all?

Horrible analogy.  Those changes are simply superficial and can be altered at any time.

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It shouldn't, but I can't be mad at anybody if they did...

But if you (not you, just in general) love your wife as much as you love your football team, that is a whole different level of problems right there lol

I have been married to the redskins longer ;)

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Maybe someone knowledgeable with law can help me understand this. If we lost the trademark before in 1999, then appealing it, having it overturned by the courts, why aren't their any protections for the team that prevents this again?  Why can they keep on doing this if we won the appeal the first time?

It was overruled by a technicallity based on the time it took the plaintiff to file the suit.   The judge ruled the plaintiff waited to long after becoming a consenting adult.      These new plaintiffs have since closed that loophole by involving young adults close to the age of 18,

 

What worked in the 90s won't work again.  Snyder would need to find new loopholes to exploit.

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The same people show up dressed like that to Chiefs games, Seminoles games, blackhawks games.... should we change them as well?

i would. I actually find what the Chiefs and Braves do very offensive. The "tomahawk chop" and head dress all that. Its terrible.

Just crazy how that guy could sit there, in that gear and tell a Native American that he doesnt get it.

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You know what else might be unintentionally insulting...

The agenda driven PC brigade who are as bigoted and racist as the organisation their protesting about?

And I include the minority section of Native Americans in that who have an agenda the majority of Native Americans do not.

Hail.

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