Renegade7 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: No, there isnt. I think if one looks at it as an individual though, there is room for understanding, instead of winning. I wish more people understood that sometimes winning isn't the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I wish more people understood that sometimes winning isn't the point. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Springfield said: I learned recently that kids don’t sit Indian style any more. It’s now crisscross apple sauce. Not that it’s important to this subject at all... Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Seriously? I don’t know if it’s an institutional thing, but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 @Mr. Sinister didnt want to quote your whole thing. I understand what you are saying, and you aren't going to be able to appease 100% of.the people 100% of the time. Something insults everyone. The terms he/she/him/her offend about the same percentage comparatively as are offended by the term Redskins. Are you going to stop using those terms as well. So...call it a cop out.if you want, but I will go with the majority. If the Majority of the Native Americans dont see it as offensive, and the origin of it is not offensive...then who am I to tell them it is offensive and not use the term when referencing a football team. To each their own. Funniest part about it is...almost every team I just call be the area/city they are from. 35 minutes ago, Springfield said: I don’t know if it’s an institutional thing, but yeah. It is I think. They are taught it in school... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 It’s time to change the name. 1. Snyder has dragged this team down to its lowest point ever. It’s now shameful to be a Redskin. 2. I can quit a team not named Redskins since I won’t feel the same allegiance. Change the name for ****s sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 No ****in way. It's the only reason I wanna keep Snyder. We're only an owner away from not being ourselves anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: No ****in way. It's the only reason I wanna keep Snyder. We're only an owner away from not being ourselves anymore. Also, an owner away from being a successful franchise again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: No ****in way. It's the only reason I wanna keep Snyder. We're only an owner away from not being ourselves anymore. Completely agree...all you whiney ass **** ****ers who want to change the name can jump.off a cliff with the rest if the lemmings....and yes in vino veritas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 This is a dying franchise and some of you will bitterly cling to a dumb name lol. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, No Excuses said: This is a dying franchise and some of you will bitterly cling to a dumb name lol. Amazing. Tell me...why change a name? Just because? If.thats the case...change yours. It obviously means nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Xameil said: Tell me...why change a name? Just because? If.thats the case...change yours. It obviously means nothing Because there is major stank associated with this teams name. No one but the most hardcore fan cares about what this franchise did in the 80s. The Redskins are three decades of hot garbage. Time me for a rebrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Rebrand the owner. A name change will do nothing. I'd welcome it, but not for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Because there is major stank associated with this teams name. No one but the most hardcore fan cares about what this franchise did in the 80s. The Redskins are three decades of hot garbage. Time me for a rebrand. Yeah...the names to blame...that's the most idiotic reason to change the name.... And since I'm one of those hard core fans...I say good day sir...and get off my lawn snowflake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Xameil said: Yeah...the names to blame...that's the most idiotic reason to change the name.... And since I'm one of those hard core fans...I say good day sir...and get off my lawn snowflake The name just adds to the toxicity of this teams brand. The gold standard of journalism in DC, the Washington Post, doesn’t even refer to this teams name. You might think people are snowflakes but this team is bleeding die hard fans and sure as **** not recruiting any new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, No Excuses said: The name just adds to the toxicity of this teams brand. The gold standard of journalism in DC, the Washington Post, doesn’t even refer to this teams name. You might think people are snowflakes but this team is bleeding die hard fans and sure as **** not recruiting any new ones. Ok...the snowflake comment was a joke...an alcohol induced joke. The Washington Post is a joke with a vendetta and agenda. I find it even more laughable you called the Washington Post a gold standard...that term shouldnt even be used with ANY news outlet. They all suck. The name has zero to do with the team bleeding die hard fans...it has to do with poor performance. And this year I blame the injuries and Gruden and the coaching staff honestly. A name change would be a travesty. Every Native American friend I have ( I have a lot of them) are fans BECAUSE of the name. They too find it prideful...this year...we were 2 games ahead of the NFC East until we lost Alex...was that because of the name? No. So what's a good reason to change it? Oh...and wasn't it the Washington Post that did the survey of Native Americans and found over 90% support of the name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, No Excuses said: The name just adds to the toxicity of this teams brand. The gold standard of journalism in DC, the Washington Post, doesn’t even refer to this teams name. You might think people are snowflakes but this team is bleeding die hard fans and sure as **** not recruiting any new ones. I've said it once I'll say it a thousand more times. The name is all I got. I'm not a local fan I can't cling to that. The Redskins are who I root for. I don't know who the hell the Washington Redhawks are and why the hell should I root for them? Since i started rooting for the skins almost 37 years ago everything has changed, yes every single thing you can possibly think of has changed except the Redskins. Hell they don't even play in Washington anymore. Once you take that away I literally have no reason at all to root for whatever fills the void. I would no sooner be able to root for the Redhawks than I could just flip a switch and start rooting for the rams or bears. This may seem ridiculous to you but to me its 100 percent how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Where's the vitriol for getting Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Xameil said: Tell me...why change a name? Just because? If.thats the case...change yours. It obviously means nothing Rebrand and Dems won't let us move back to RFK site if we don't. Our franchise has not only changed our name before, we changed cities. Go to Washington Warriors and put the Arrow on the side of the helmet like the 70th anniversary jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Xameil said: Ok...the snowflake comment was a joke...an alcohol induced joke. The Washington Post is a joke with a vendetta and agenda. I find it even more laughable you called the Washington Post a gold standard...that term shouldnt even be used with ANY news outlet. They all suck. The name has zero to do with the team bleeding die hard fans...it has to do with poor performance. And this year I blame the injuries and Gruden and the coaching staff honestly. A name change would be a travesty. Every Native American friend I have ( I have a lot of them) are fans BECAUSE of the name. They too find it prideful...this year...we were 2 games ahead of the NFC East until we lost Alex...was that because of the name? No. So what's a good reason to change it? Oh...and wasn't it the Washington Post that did the survey of Native Americans and found over 90% support of the name? One can not like how the Post covers the Skins, but anyone that thinks the Post doesn’t do outstanding work on actual important issues is either drunk or an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, redskinss said: This may seem ridiculous to you but to me its 100 percent how I feel. It's not ridiculous, but look at it from this perspective. The records will still be there, the ring of fame will still be there, our super bowl trophies will still be there, Gibbs will still be the best coach this franchise ever had, and when they do homecoming games the same legends you remember watching growing up will be brought out there for everyone to pay their respects to. Are you originally from the area? I stayed a fan because they reminded me of home and my time I got to spend with my dad when he really didn't have any. No name change is going to change that I can see myself being local looking at it differently then someone that isn't in area anymore, or never even lived here. At this point, because they are the DC team, I want them to do well even when I feel like they don't give a damn about me. But its a sport, and I have a choice to feel anyway I feel about it as its supposed to be a distraction to help me get from one day to the next. The franchise has to matter more then the name, and for me the area has to matter more then the franchise. If they moved (hypothetical), I'd wait until another showed up. But its just a sport, you are allowed to react to it any which way you want. and for a franchise that seemingly does not give a damn about you right now, you owe them nothing. End of the day, the franchise gave you those memories you are holding on to and that just happened to be the team name. I don't think changing it has to have anything to do with being PC anymore, so not that you are saying this, but anyone barking down another's throat about how Native Americans don't care is missing the point about everyone else that does and for different reasons. The name is only a part of this franchises history. We've added words to the constitution, stars to flag, even put God in the pledge, yet I'm still just as much of an American as the people that made those decisions to do that. You can also do what some people do and just call our basketball team the Washington Bullets anyway : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I want the name kept. But you could change the name to the Fartsmellers or Clam Jammers and it wouldn't matter if front office changes weren't made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 No I've lived in Massachusetts my entire life. I think that's kinda why the name is so important to me because the area doesn't mean anything. I respect your opinion on how the memories will still be there but they'll be just that memories. I want new memories but I want them to be associated with my old ones. It just wont be the same if the Washington warriors start winning playoff games, I can't very well explain why I feel that way I just know I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, No Excuses said: The name just adds to the toxicity of this teams brand. No. The name was the same when we were dominating. Dan Snyder is the solely repsonsible for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 50 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I want the name kept. But you could change the name to the Fartsmellers or Clam Jammers and it wouldn't matter if front office changes weren't made. I'd be ok with both of those names for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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