Guest Spearfeather Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Anybody who dared to question Dodson's Native cred would have been shredded here in May. Anyone who dismisses these peoples' opinion, should be shredded for the remainder of the calendar year, and beyond. It doesnt bother me, Robert Green, the chief of the Patawomeck Tribe, told Woody. About 98 percent of my tribe is Redskins fans, and it doesnt offend them, either Im a Redskins fan, and I dont think theres any intention for (the nickname) to be derogatory, said Kevin Brown, chief of the Pamunkey Tribe. The majority of the people in my tribe dont have a problem with it I dont have an issue with it, said G. Anne Richardson, chief of the Rappahannock Tribe. There are so many more issues that are important for the tribe than to waste time on what a team is called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Anybody who dared to question Dodson's Native cred would have been shredded here in May. Your point gets shredded every time you try to say anything of substance on the topic, which is never as of late. Tell me. In your mind does this one clown discount the opinion of the rest of the NA population? ~Bang I ask again, ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundyrush Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 OK, so throw his opinion out for being a liar and a compromised charlatan. we could trade prisoners, if you will. UnWise Mike is also a known liar who made up headlines to generate discussion for his failing radio show, and he's every bit a douchebag as this chief appears to be. Now, how many natives still think its' not offensive? ~Bang All we know is 691 Native Americans approve of the name out of about 5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spearfeather Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If you applied the percentages of the polls, how many would that be out of 5 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 All we know is 691 Native Americans approve of the name out of about 5 million.Ah, the attempt to try to claim that a random selection of people for a survey just happened to pick 90% people who said X, but that 100% of the people not picked say Y. Math's not your strong suit, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Anybody who dared to question Dodson's Native cred would have been shredded here in May. Your point gets shredded every time you try to say anything of substance on the topic, which is never as of late. Tell me. In your mind does this one clown discount the opinion of the rest of the NA population? ~Bang I ask again, ~Bang No way. Those 90% approvers are a passionate majority. I just wonder why they couldn't locate a 90%er from Ashburn. Leave it to Redskins PR to capitalize on a 10% chance of screwing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 OK, so throw his opinion out for being a liar and a compromised charlatan. we could trade prisoners, if you will. UnWise Mike is also a known liar who made up headlines to generate discussion for his failing radio show, and he's every bit a douchebag as this chief appears to be. Now, how many natives still think its' not offensive? ~Bang All we know is 691 Native Americans approve of the name out of about 5 million. This is only relevant if they asked all five million. And what is interesting is even though they did not ask all five million, of the ones they did ask, a scant handful said "yes", while an overwhelming majority said "no". Seems to me this groundswell of correct thinking people that are so intent on telling people what is offensive could easily satisfy the question and ask them all. You know, find out what the people they claim to represent actually want. I've got time to wait for the full answer. After all, five million isn't really THAT large of a number when compared to wanting to see justice done... unless they're not sure the answer is one they want to hear. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 OK, so throw his opinion out for being a liar and a compromised charlatan. we could trade prisoners, if you will. UnWise Mike is also a known liar who made up headlines to generate discussion for his failing radio show, and he's every bit a douchebag as this chief appears to be. Now, how many natives still think its' not offensive? ~Bang All we know is 691 Native Americans approve of the name out of about 5 million.You should check out what is and what is not an accurate way to take a poll. Or post your own, since you question the annenberg poll so vehemently. Surely you have some data to back up your skepticism. Actually, I asked you this same question two pages ago when you took issue with the poll, and you didn't answer- not me or anyone else- so I won't hold my breath. All I ask is if you're going to post, then take part in the discussion. Your drive bys aren't doing anything productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 No way. Those 90% approvers are a passionate majority. I just wonder why they couldn't locate a 90%er from Ashburn. Leave it to Redskins PR to capitalize on a 10% chance of screwing up. Well, we did hire Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I wonder if Dodson will be there on opening night. I've never had to root for a Redskin to lose, but there's a first for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 dang duplicate ~Bang Anybody who dared to question Dodson's Native cred would have been shredded here in May. Your point gets shredded every time you try to say anything of substance on the topic, which is never as of late. Tell me. In your mind does this one clown discount the opinion of the rest of the NA population? ~Bang I ask again, ~Bang No way. Those 90% approvers are a passionate majority. I just wonder why they couldn't locate a 90%er from Ashburn. Leave it to Redskins PR to capitalize on a 10% chance of screwing up. thanks, that's reasonable, and yes, it is frustrating that the guy they hang their hat on is a goof. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I just want all of you to know...that if you, your children, or any of your friends have ever dressed up like a Ninja - you are a racist. Afterall...dressing up like a warrior from another culture is demeaning, derogatory, and is offensive (so says UnWise Mike, Dan Graziano, the entire ESPN cast, Suzan Harjo, and the rest of the separatists crying about our mascot / fans in N.A. Warrior dress). ...#21 rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/native-american-chief-used-defend-redskins-nickname-may-223849455.html Turns out Dodson may not even be a Natuve American, according to this report. That's embarassing. Has anyone been fired over this? I'm not commenting on the name change debate just this incident in particular. They trot out an Eagles fan (bad enough) claiming to speak for native Americans, and even Goodell is referencing it, only to have it blow up in their faces. Is this guy just a fraud or is he a troll? I have to admit that if he trolled the skins he pulled off a classic. This is a story The Onion would find too outlandish. I have to think Snyder was furious when he found out about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 That's embarassing. Has anyone been fired over this? The interview w/ Dodson was still live on Redskins.com as of 5:00pm yesterday, a full 24 hrs after McKenna's story broke. Chad Dukes was having a field day w/ that last night. Dukes is pro keep the name, but he went off for 20 mins about how much this incident reeks of the pre ShanAllen era. The fact that nobody at the Park had thought to remove the story a day after the fact is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The sad thing is that the Redskins name controversy is no more than a cop out and diversion. There are real issues that have been undealt with for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Just saw this from Fri, a satirist piece from Drew Magary. http://deadspin.com/the-time-has-come-for-dan-snyder-to-change-his-name-599762159 This is proof that Snyder doesn't mess w/ the content on ESPN980 radio here in DC, as people once feared he would when he bought the station. Magary is (or at least was) a regular guest on the Sports Reporters and other programs on the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What's up Canuck? "A Canadian, esp. a French Canadian (chiefly used by Canadians themselves and often derogatory in the US)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Just saw this from Fri, a satirist piece from Drew Magary. http://deadspin.com/the-time-has-come-for-dan-snyder-to-change-his-name-599762159 This is proof that Snyder doesn't mess w/ the content on ESPN980 radio here in DC, as people once feared he would when he bought the station. Magary is (or at least was) a regular guest on the Sports Reporters and other programs on the station. for as much heat as Snyder takes and has taken on 980 from pretty much everyone BUT Larry Michael over the years,, i think the only way anyone would think Dan tries to control what is on the air is to simply never listen and just assume. I remember we all thought that would be the case when he bought up stations and started Red Zebra, but he's allowed them all their opinions, good and bad. Kudos to him for that. (While a guy like Riggo would disagree, the fact was his show sucked, and most of the time would devolve into talking about drinking. I still love John Riggins, but I don't think his beef with Snyder is what got him fired.) (and speaking of Mr. Michael.. people will throw cabbage at me, but I like the guy.) ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I like Mr. Michael as well. As far as I'm concerned he has two of my dream jobs - play by play on game day and broadcadting from Redskins park. If you think he's a homer...you would HATE me...for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Interesting take on banning the name: http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2013/06/30/opinion/doc51ca0a7d679c1267560378.txt?viewmode=fullstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The sad thing is that the Redskins name controversy is no more than a cop out and diversion. There are real issues that have been undealt with for decades. Agreed. I'm sure if you ask the Native Americans, having sports teams named after them is the least of their worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Interesting take on banning the name: http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2013/06/30/opinion/doc51ca0a7d679c1267560378.txt?viewmode=fullstory Eh. Not really compelling or new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Rush Limbaugh chimed in yesterday, though he was more about hating on libs and Fed involvement than the actual contoversy. Nothing groundbreaking. Just more media on the issue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbAWhohR0Rs WPost today. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/07/02/rush-limbaugh-on-the-redskins-name/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I think I speak for everyone when I say that the opinions of right-wing political pundits aren't helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I think I speak for everyone when I say that the opinions of right-wing political pundits aren't helping. Nor are left-wing, since both exist on either extreme of the issue. Limbaugh was doing a McNabb impersonation with how bad he missed the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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