bulldog Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Aikman suggested it. I can't take credit for it. But the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that having Ramsey and the offense move to a no huddle or two-minute offense when the play is flat and uneven for stretches will lead to better productivity. We didn't get the false starts in the final drive(s) of the Eagles game, and going no huddle prevents teams from being able to substitute players and employ their full blitz packages when the Skins want to spread things out. The Bucs may not be the best defense to test this on as they don't substitute players often and don't blitz as much as other teams we face such as Philly and Dallas. But, again, it may help with the execution and the penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I think that would be a great feature in the offense. I think I remember that being brought up on the SS show on TEM… but the OBC didn’t exactly warm up to it outside of the 2 minute drill. Maybe next year we will see something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I agree. The No Huddle gives Ramsey plenty of time to audible to the correct play and it also gives the line plenty of time to figure out their assignment. I would like to see us give it a shot this week, maybe early in the game. If it works, keep using it and keep Tampa on its heels. In an offense that uses so many audibles, I think the No Huddle is an ideal option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 One more thought on this: How does the no huddle effect Spurrier's ability to talk to Ramsey. If the headset doesn't turn off until the play clock is down to 15 seconds, then couldn't Ramsey go to the line, and still have Spurrier's help with picking the right call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Hog, to win games THIS year I think SS has to be as adaptable as possible to things that may jump start this offense and work to eliminate these crippling mistakes. Obviously, merely continuing to work in practice has not produced any noticeable improvements, and we all admit the problems the line is having is not one of talent but of mental preparation and focus. Having the offense execute at a faster clip may eliminate some of these problems and get the unit into a better rhythm. We all saw that happen with Buffalo's offense under Levy on numerous occasions where they had gotten bogged down. In fact it was so successful Levy moved the Bills to a standard no huddle system. I am not going that far however as the Skins skill players on O are still somewhat green and the no huddle does take a toll over time on your defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I think it's a cool idea, Spurrier can still talk to Ramsey, they make the calls via audible at the line and have plenty of time. You also lock in a set of defenders on the field, so I would wait until the defensive players I want to take advantage of are on the field then I would go no huddle. They can't substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RySkins Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Gibbs also used the no huddle during stretches of the 1991 season when the team needed a boost and it worked great. I think that needs to be added to our arsenal this year. Every time we've gone no huddle, we've driven down the field for a field goal or touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 like we dont have enough offsides and procedure penalties. Bottom line we need to have our line on the same page before we can audible or run no huddle and our succseess in the 2 min drill are more to teams not being able to sub and plan rather than our sparkling execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Originally posted by bulldog In fact it was so successful Levy moved the Bills to a standard no huddle system. After Levy accused the Bengals of unsportsmanlike conduct for their use of the no-huddle and then had his nose tackle fake an injury almost every other down in a playoff game against the Bengals in order to slow them down. If you can't beat them, join them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 With the no huddle, the pressure is on SS to get the plays in quickly. I love the idea, especially early in the game but don't think we'll see much of it outside of two-minute drill. The times did mention that in practice this week the team is putting more emphasis on getting to the line of scrimmage quicker and giving the offense more a sense of immediacy. Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up...better hurry it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Tooth Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Originally posted by DeathByLinebacker After Levy accused the Bengals of unsportsmanlike conduct for their use of the no-huddle and then had his nose tackle fake an injury almost every other down in a playoff game against the Bengals in order to slow them down. If you can't beat them, join them. Levy was an absolute a$$ pounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 WM COACH levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 This is the best idea I've heard in awhile... For this reason- Ramsey is streaky. Sure, he has his slumps. But, when he gets hot, he is friggin' unstoppable. We've all seen this. So...the pace of the no-huddle could potentially put Ramsey in a rhythm quicker than a standar offense. But, as with everything else, it must be occassional, and not dominating. This coulod be a season-changing difference. Hope you're reading this Spurrier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 No Huddle is NO ANSWER. The problem is the inexperience of Ramsey and Spurrier: Ramsey's inexperience as an NFL QB and SS's inexperience as an NFL coach in trying to force his system onto players that cannopt perform it and against players and coaches that are far better than the typical college team (even tho the SEC is top-flight). Sometimes you just have to RUN THE DAMN PLAY, even if it is not the perfect play, as deemed by SS. Sometimes you have to go on a quick count to disrupt a defense, especially a defense that knows that you are going to read and dawdle and audible and run the play clock down to 1 second. Whether Ramsey is under center or back in the shotgun is not the answer. In either formation we will continue to make mistakes, penalize ourselves with false starts and delay of game penalties if we do not just run the damn play and go on quick counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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