JamesMadisonSkins Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I would love to grab a guy like Lynch and pair him with a 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder to compete with T. Jackson, Merriweather and Gomes. I would be extremely happy if the Redskins started training camp with Aqib Talib at CB, Corey Lynch at FS and an earlier draft pick at FS or SS to compete as well. Someone like Rambo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 You said Meriweather is a three tool safety. I'm not a film guy, which one of the four is he lacking in? Haven't seen him used as a deep cover 1 safety . Aggressive guy that takes a lot of chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 If we don't get Lynch, Phillips is the guy I want to target. He's been injured a decent amount, but he's a talented guy who definitely respects Sean Taylor.That could be a negative about him though; people would definitely try to compare him to Taylor. I think that would have been an issue if we drafted him but at this point enough time has passed it shouldn't be an issue. As far as "respecting Sean Taylor," it's cool that he was a fan but I don't see it as relevant criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 If we don't get Lynch, Phillips is the guy I want to target. He's been injured a decent amount, but he's a talented guy who definitely respects Sean Taylor.That could be a negative about him though; people would definitely try to compare him to Taylor. You might not like the review then lol.Good player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Gomes if I recall talked about the enthusiasm Merriweather played with and that he was all over the field. I recall Chris Russell from 980 saying that Merriweather is an energetic, boisterous, extroverted personality, Gomes more quiet and introverted. I'd say if Gomes played well, for a team that was desperate for safety help, Gomes spent a lot of time on the bench. Seems like they gave him a couple of shots to start during the season but was soon benched both times.[ I saw him quite a bit during the win streak. I think he and Pugh should both be back next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I saw him quite a bit during the win streak. I think he and Pugh should both be back next year If memory serves they gave him the starter job at the beginning of the season but he lost it to Reed. Yeah with all the injuries and sketchy at times play at safety, everyone had to play at times including the backups. Not that his word is gospel, but I'd say John Keim among Redskins reporters gets the most respect among his peers in terms of knowing football and studying tape. here's what he said in Dec. http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/12/6/3735650/i-think-therefore-im-with-john-keim-of-the-washington-examiner I don't see DeJon Gomes breaking out, either. He looks like a backup/special teamer. They're going to have to find secondary help in free agency somehow or the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 You might not like the review then lol.Good player though. Eh, if we don't get him no biggie. I want to at least give him a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 If we don't get Lynch, Phillips is the guy I want to target. He's been injured a decent amount, but he's a talented guy who definitely respects Sean Taylor.That could be a negative about him though; people would definitely try to compare him to Taylor. I never really been a fan of Kenny Phillips. Always seemed a bit overrated to me, probably since some tried to compare him to ST coming out of Miami. And compound that with inconsistent play and injuries, he just never did anything for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I never really been a fan of Kenny Phillips. Always seemed a bit overrated to me, probably since some tried to compare him to ST coming out of Miami. And compound that with inconsistent play and injuries, he just never did anything for me. Phillips seems to play more strong safety, although he isn't bad at coverage. But if Merriweather is coming back, strong safety might not be a big issue, free safety seems to be the bigger need. Then you got Phillips chronic injury issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BgMase76# Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 To me this is the top priority in the off season. I would keep Jackson, Merriweather, and Doughty. I would target FS in free agency and use our top pick on a SS. Hopefully we can nail both of them and turn our weakness into a strong point. I agree for the most part. I would love to have a season w/ Jackson and Meriweather. We bring back Reed and Berstine. Then draft a FS and SS. Gomes had a chance to make a statement this season but failed in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 For the life of me I cannot understand why people have so much faith in Tanard Jackson and Brandon Meriweather. I think we should aim to upgrade from both the FS and SS position. And mo neither TJ nor Brandon represent a large enough upgrade. If Meriweather comes back in the offseason/training camp he can compete for a spot against the players brought via FA/draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 OP is updated with Kenny Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 OP is updated with Kenny Phillips Not that I think we will go after Phillips, but if we do, I think it would work out a little better than the review suggests. Meriweather, in his very limited time, looked to be fairly versatile, playing both in the box and deep. He played FS against the Eagles, with Doughty (I'm pretty sure) playing the SS. I think he and Phillips would be interchangeable, and we would be able to somewhat mask who would be doing what. Meriweather and Phillips played together at the U, so they would also have some familiarity with each other and what they are capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Not that I think we will go after Phillips, but if we do, I think it would work out a little better than the review suggests. Meriweather, in his very limited time, looked to be fairly versatile, playing both in the box and deep. He played FS against the Eagles, with Doughty (I'm pretty sure) playing the SS. Check the OP Safety Review.. Meriweather is a pure SS and the Redskins had him playing forward for a majority of his time on the field. Madieu Williams was the FS that played with him. I captured every play with Brandon on the field.. Mostly attacking underneath routes on his way to the LOS, 1 play as the deep safety, rest were in cover 2. Haslett played Laron and Meriweather in identical roles just like OJ and Madieu played the same FS role. You do not want to rely on Meriweather deep in coverage very often. He is a aggressive player that trusts his eyes vs his role in the defense at times. You maximize Brandon as a player by putting him in positions to be aggressive. I think he and Phillips would be interchangeable, and we would be able to somewhat mask who would be doing what. Meriweather and Phillips played together at the U, so they would also have some familiarity with each other and what they are capable of. Even at the U Meriweather was used attacking underneath and not so much in deep coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Check the OP Safety Review.. Meriweather is a pure SS and the Redskins had him playing forward for a majority of his time on the field. Madieu Williams was the FS that played with him. I captured every play with Brandon on the field.. Mostly attacking underneath routes on his way to the LOS, 1 play as the deep safety, rest were in cover 2.Haslett played Laron and Meriweather in identical roles just like OJ and Madieu played the same FS role. You do not want to rely on Meriweather deep in coverage very often. He is a aggressive player that trusts his eyes vs his role in the defense at times. You maximize Brandon as a player by putting him in positions to be aggressive. Even at the U Meriweather was used attacking underneath and not so much in deep coverage. Fair enough. I'll defer to you, seeing as how you've done the research :pfft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Fair enough. I'll defer to you, seeing as how you've done the research :pfft: Lol.. I think Brandon has the physical tools to play the deep middle but his mindset is too aggressive. He really is very similar to Laron in a lot of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I love the thought of reuniting Phillips with Merriweather. You gotta think those U boys would love to ball out together for us. That is if they can both stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 OP is updated with Kenny Phillips Phillips is in the top 3 S's in the NFL. Only issue is he can't stay healthy. How do you keep him healthy if he can't stay healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 If Meriweather comes back in the offseason/training camp he can compete for a spot against the players brought via FA/draft. Meriweather's coming back and the ACL should be long healed. It's pretty much his spot until he does something to lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Meriweather's coming back and the ACL should be long healed. It's pretty much his spot until he does something to lose it. As our starting FS or SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 As our starting FS or SS? Depends on who we sign/draft, but most likely the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 As our starting FS or SS? Strong safety. Like LL said, Merriweather does his best work in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Strong safety. Like LL said, Merriweather does his best work in the box. I would think we may want to draft a SS too as Merriweather can't stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I would think we may want to draft a SS too as Merriweather can't stay healthy. Has he ever had injury problems before this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Has he ever had injury problems before this year? Nope. Seems more like bad luck and two bad fields than him being injury prone. No one could expect to get taken out by your own teammate in pre-game like that. I also think people don't realize we basically have nothing but strong safeties on our roster, and that's the whole problem with our safety group in general. Not sure adding another strong safety to that group would fix anything, especially if/when Meriweather is healthy and playing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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