NoCalMike Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 First off, Spurrier's system works. If you break down game film, there is no argument around it. Most talk of it not working has died down, so no further explanation needed on that. However, what can be questioned is specific play calling WITHIN the system. I almost have to wonder if it would be different if Spurrier's Offense was being used, but someone else was doing the playcalling. Spurrier so far seems unwilling to establish the run. Sure he will run the ball throughout the game, but the Skins aren't going to be up 20-3 in every game like last week where they can use the run strictly for "conservative" mode. The offensive playcalling ruined the first half for the skins O, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 LOL Bring Norv back and let him and Spurrier go to work:40oz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Have to agree there Mike. At the first of the game,all pass.Even with the score tied,the run was an afterthought. I know I know, Snyder didn't pay SS to come run the ball but he did pay him to win didn't he? Last time I checked,this was still the NFC East,where the weather becomes cold and windy in Nov.and Dec. and a running game comes in handy. Alot of people forget about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 What we do works. We were competitive out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 geez people know the stats philly is the #1 team against the run. we were not going to run against them... face the facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 our pass run balance had nothing to do with us losing the game. those 900 false starts and 1 personal foul had a huge effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 First off, Spurrier's system works. If you break down game film, there is no argument around it. Does it work without the audibles, or because of them? It seems to me that most of the audibles just cause penalties or timeouts. How many of the audibles result in gains? If Spurrier and Ramsey cut back on the audibles, would that help our game? I don't have any game film to review, so I can't really tell. Spurrier so far seems unwilling to establish the run. Sure he will run the ball throughout the game, but the Skins aren't going to be up 20-3 in every game like last week where they can use the run strictly for "conservative" mode. The offensive playcalling ruined the first half for the skins O, IMO. I agree. He just doesn't mix it up enough and doesn't call enough runs to make the other team respect it. In order to have the run open up the pass, you have to run it more than Spurrier has been doing in most of the games this year, particularly when we are in the attack mode. We do have an offensive coordinator up in the press box, Hue Jackson, and in some of the games the announcers said that he was helping Spurrier with the play selection, and running plays were getting called more often. Maybe Spurrier should listen to Jackson more than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by airSkins96 geez people know the stats philly is the #1 team against the run. we were not going to run against them... face the facts The facts are that we keep beating ourselves AND I'm tired of it. Both of our losses should have been wins, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 This issue of SOS not running the ball is just absolutely frustrating for me. SOS has learned that he has to run the ball more....fine. However, he still hasn't figured out that the running game is more than a way to hold on to a lead or to keep defenses honest when he wants to pass. The problem is he's not committed to running the ball. At this point, it's still just a means to an end for him. SOS still has to learn that the running game is NOT just an afterthought.:twitch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 my biggest fear in re Spurrier is that he turns out to be a guy that can get the QB and WRs productive but continues to be the head of a team that has deficiencies in other areas that he is incapable of getting the fixes made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 So far everytime that we actually have used the run to setup a playaction pass, it WORKS. Why is Spurrier not seeing that and utilizing the fruits of the labor? I mean the Offense will go out there and go, run, run, pass, run, playaction pass for huge gain. Then on the next series, pass, pass, pass, pass.......pass, pass, pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by bulldog my biggest fear in re Spurrier is that he turns out to be a guy that can get the QB and WRs productive but continues to be the head of a team that has deficiencies in other areas that he is incapable of getting the fixes made. Great Point. I mean I don't exactly envision Spurrer running over to a bad play on D during practice yelling at someone to make tighter coverage or something. Hell, Spurrier could prove me wrong, but I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 NoCal, in fairness to Spurrier I don't think the o-line came out with enough drive to sustain the run even if the backs were given more carries. Simon and Walker dominated the Skins interior 3. That eliminated Betts from the offense. And the Eagles D is quick enough that unless Canidate was able to get in the open field as a receiver (which they didn't do enough of) he wasn't going to be able to break off a big play. Once again, the Redskins needed the o-line to come and play and as in the Giants game they let everyone down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 Well I wasn't looking for 40 carries by the RBs, however there are a lot of RBs in this league that get those huge big stats from maybe 2-4 huge gains, while the rest of the time, they are getting 1-3 yards a carry. Maybe Trung gets stuffed 8/10 times, but he has big play capability that is just wasted. Lets not forget that rushing the ball can demoralize a defense like the Eagles that relies heavily on the blitz packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinster Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Watch the game again and you will see why we stoped running the ball.... you cant run the ball when its second and fifteen etc.. PENALTIES KILLED US! Players only meeting anyone? Coaching is not the problem... ITS IN THE PLAYERS HEADS! Skinster!!! Skin 4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 It doesnt matter if they are number one against the run. Champ is number one cornerback but he was still challenged You pound the ball for them to respect the fact that you will run. I am starting to see to much in common with norv at the beginning of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by airSkins96 geez people know the stats philly is the #1 team against the run. we were not going to run against them... face the facts OK coach they are #1 against the run so we dont run. REAL smart their buddy. lmao I suppose next week we will be going against the #1 pass defense in the Tampa Bay Bucs so we Just wont pass. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Wop Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Granted Spurrier shouldn't have came out with the mentallity that we are going to just pass. I think he realized that and tried changing up.......but its kinda hard to argue to keep running the ball when on 21 rushes you average 2.3 yards per rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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